In the chaos of family life, where there can be suffering, sacrifice and even dysfunction, is where we find great joy. It's a school of love. Marriage and family is a remedy for sin and selfishness. Bill Donaghy, senior lecturer and content specialist for the Theology of the Body Institute joins Steve and Becky for a fun-filled conversation about the beautiful messiness of family life.

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