This episode is a conversation with Hugh Boa, who farms at Antuim, here in Dervaig in the North of Mull.

I’ve wanted to speak to Hugh since What We Do in the Winter started, so I’m delighted to be able to share this episode with you.

Our conversation covers all sorts of ground.

We talk about people of the island in the past, different farming cultures on different estates, family members, the decline of Gaelic, the horror of Gruinard Island, the Salen Show and so much more.

There is some exceptionally fine swearing in this episode, so do be warned.

Hugh also doesn’t hold back on his take on the reintroduction of Sea Eagles, which is very interesting to hear.

At about 45 minutes in we eat some mince pies, sorry if this causes anyone to feel nauseous, but they were too good to resist – they were my wife’s homemade frangipani ones.

If you're listening as this episode goes out, a very happy Christmas to you!

Episode links and more can be found on whatwedointhewinter.com

Thanks for listening!