"They're holding you in that false narrative probably because you've enrolled them into that story. You know, we're always informing other people who we are. So if I have a story, 'I'm not good enough,' there's all sorts of ways that I'm going show up as, 'I'm inferior and they're better than me,' so when they leave because of that, it's validating the old story. So you have to go in and do this correction on a soul level."

Katherine Woodward Thomas joins me in today's episode about Conscious Uncoupling.

Katherine is the bestselling author of Conscious Uncoupling and an award-winning marriage and family psychotherapist.

We discuss changing the definition of success from longevity, the pain of detaching, how we've been doing divorce wrong, conscious uncoupling without our partner's participation, transforming difficult emotions, curating an empowering narrative, breaking our patterns, creating a positive future, building a new life, and rituals for uncoupling.

Get the full show notes at sagefamily.com/podcast84.