What if the thing stopping young men from healing isn’t weakness—but the suppression of their natural masculine energy? And what if the way forward isn't in sitting down to talk—but in action, community, and shared purpose?

In this raw and inspiring episode, Michael sits down with Jack Jensen—surfer, founder of MSFT Productions, and leader of the Spark That Chat movement. Together, they explore how action sports, creative expression, and real conversations are helping men break free from shame, connect to their purpose, and even save lives. If you’re tired of shallow mental health campaigns, this one will resonate.

• Discover how the “misfit” label is being reclaimed as a badge of authenticity and strength

• Hear how real conversations—and not performative vulnerability—are breaking suicide cycles in NZ

• Learn how to spark meaningful change in your community, even if you're not a therapist

Play this episode now to hear Jack’s unfiltered truth—and get inspired to lead, connect, and spark that chat with someone who needs it.

Key Points

• Recognizing individuality and promoting the idea of everyone being a 'misfit' in their own way, aiming to inspire others to embrace their passions and talents.

• Addressing the stigma around men's mental health and redefining masculinity as a positive and constructive force in society.

• Explaining the origin of the term 'Misfit' and its evolution into a brand that promotes physical activity, mental health, and community engagement.

• Discussing the creation of the 'Spark that Chat' initiative in response to the loss of a friend to suicide, aiming to promote open conversations about mental health.

• Talking about the challenges of vulnerability and the stigma associated with mental health, emphasizing the importance of normalizing these conversations.

• Exploring different ways to address mental health, including physicality, deep conversations, therapy, and hotlines, and the importance of seeking help.

• Providing advice for those looking to spark conversations about mental health, including utilizing available resources and reaching out to trusted individuals.

• Encouraging the normalization of deep conversations about mental health, fostering long-term relationships and support systems.

• Promoting the idea of initiating and participating in shared activities as a way to spark conversations and support mental well-being.

• Highlighting the importance of community and shared experiences in fostering mental health and providing information on how to connect with the Misfits community.

https://msftproductions.net/

#sparkthatchat -

https://msftproductions.net/sparkthatchat

Resources:

https://msftproductions.net/mental-health-resources

Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/msft_productions/

https://www.instagram.com/jackk_jensenn/?hl=en

Life Coaching:

https://surfmastery.com/life-coaching

Music - Sandy Dunes By SUNZ

https://open.spotify.com/track/5UjI551rUJTZsuDUxu8zGH?si=7a60280b57a34c96

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