Here’s Episode 85 of Turning Towards Life, a weekly live 30 minute conversation hosted by Thirdspace in which Justin Wise and Lizzie Winn dive deep into big questions of human living.

Find us on FaceBook to watch live and join in the lively conversation on this episode. We’re also on YouTube, and as a podcast on Apple, Google and Spotify.

In this conversation we explore the simple beauty of life that's present even when we're most afraid. We consider together what it is that most dignifies and deepens human life - the possibility that we might start to pay attention, and that we might let life, and our care, matter. Our inspiration for this conversation comes from a poem by Roger Keyes about the Japanese artist Hokusai.

You can find the source text for this episode here, along with more details about the Turning Towards Life project.