This week we bring you more material recorded from our time in Ukraine, this time Saul speaks to Pete Smith - HALO's programme manager in Ukraine - who gave us a briefing on the situation regarding mines and unexploded ordinance in Ukraine, before taking us out to visit a minefield in the outskirts of Kyiv. Saul also speaks to the HALO teams translator Ivan, who tells us about how he managed to escape from Russian occupied Mariupol.

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Producer: James Hodgson

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