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About this week’s episode

Welcome to a special series of podcast episodes in honour of the 10th anniversary of my first book, Grieving Parents: Surviving Loss as a Couple, published in 2014. To mark this milestone, I’m reconnecting with the same parents I initially interviewed for the book, offering a unique opportunity to revisit their stories and gain a deeper understanding of their journeys—now, with the perspective of a decade.
In recognition of October being Pregnancy and Infant Loss Awareness Month, this series is dedicated to showcasing how grieving parents have coped with their loss and trauma over the years. These episodes aim to offer a long-term view of life after the loss of a pregnancy or infant, providing comfort, insight and hope to those who may still be navigating their grief.

Additionally, I’m excited to offer Healing Steps, my audio course, at 25% off this month. Use the coupon code HSOCT24 to access the course and begin your journey toward healing.

About this week’s guest

Kiley Hanish is Norbert’s mother.
Kiley shares with us: “Ten years ago, I was just at the beginning of my healing journey. Everything has changed since then. I have processed my loss, integrated into my being, found community with other loss parents, and become an advocate for change through Return to Zero: HOPE.” (Check out the link.)

Resources mentioned in this episode

• The Land After Loss metaphor appears in another episode (

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