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Today, 15 October, is Pregnancy and Infant Loss Remembrance Day. In this episode I move beyond what to say and focus on how to build support around a grieving family, and how to keep it going over time.
For grieving parents, I share practical questions to help you find the right support for yourself, ways to support each other as a couple when you grieve differently, and how to include and protect your other children. For grandparents, aunts and uncles, I introduce the Circles of Support model and its simple rule: comfort in, dump out.
For supporters, I walk through how support needs to change from the first days to the first weeks, months and years. And for friends, I share the story of firefighters and builders, so you can ask yourself honestly which one you are, or whether you are neither. I close with an invitation to join the International Wave of Light tonight at 7 pm.
"Support is not a single act. It is a relationship that continues."
Who this is for: Parents who have experienced miscarriage, stillbirth or infant loss. Grandparents, aunts, uncles and siblings. Friends, colleagues and professionals who want to support a grieving family not only in the first days, but for the long term.
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October is Breast Cancer Awareness Month, and most of what we see is about early detection and survival. Both matter. But there is a side of breast cancer that rarely makes it onto a poster: the grief and the trauma. The losses that happen long before, and very often without, any death. The fear that stays in the body after treatment ends. And the quiet exhaustion of the people standing beside someone who is ill.
In this episode, I map out how many people are affected worldwide, including men, and then look at breast cancer through two lenses. As grief: the losses of body, hair, trust, fertility, intimacy, identity and an assumed future. And as trauma: the "before and after" moment of diagnosis, medical trauma, fear of recurrence, and why your nervous system is protecting you, not failing you.
I speak to people who have been diagnosed, to partners, families and friends, to those living with metastatic breast cancer, and to those who have lost someone to breast cancer.
"You can be deeply grateful to be alive, and deeply sad about what you have lost. Both are true. Both are allowed."
Who this is for: Anyone who has been diagnosed with breast cancer, at any stage, women and men. Partners, children, parents and friends walking alongside them. People living with metastatic breast cancer. Anyone grieving someone who died of breast cancer. And professionals who support them.
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Episodes mentioned: 15 Amie Lands, 72 Hope Edelman, 74 Diana Richardson, 75 David Kessler, 106 Friendship After Grief and Trauma, 111 Anticipatory Grief, 114 Disenfranchised Grief, 117 Secondary Loss Grief, 134 Identity-Related Grief, 136 Non-death Loss, 163 When the Body Learns Danger, 170 Single-Incident Trauma, 171 Medical and Birth Trauma, 190 Mourning Someone Who Is Still Alive, 197 Deb Dana, 201 Grief and Time, 207 Pregnancy and Infant Loss Awareness (next Wednesday). Full archive: nathaliehimmelrich.com/episode-overview-latest-episode-first/
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31 Days PAIL Companion: Start here
October is Pregnancy and Infant Loss Awareness Month, and on 15 October, families worldwide light a candle at 7 pm for the International Wave of Light. In this episode, I look at where this month came from, why pregnancy and infant loss remains one of the most silenced losses, and what both grieving parents and their supporters can do differently.
I bring together the 2025 Pregnancy and Infant Loss Awareness mini-series (episodes 142 to 157), its guest conversations and paired episodes for parents and for supporters, and turn them into two clear lists of dos and don'ts. One for you if your baby has died. One for you if you are standing beside someone whose baby has died.
I also share a personal note fifteen years after the death of my daughter Amaya, offer simple ways to mark 15 October, and point you to the exact episodes in the archive to return to, depending on where you are right now.
"You do not need the perfect words. What hurts most is not the clumsy sentence. It is the silence."
Who this is for: Parents who have experienced miscarriage, stillbirth or infant loss, at any time. Partners, grandparents and siblings. Friends, colleagues and professionals who want to support bereaved parents without saying the wrong thing.
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Episodes mentioned: 142, 144 to 157 (PAIL Mini Series), 201 Grief and Time. Full list: nathaliehimmelrich.com/pregnancy-and-infant-loss-awareness-mini-series/
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Grief and trauma both change how memory works, and almost everyone going through either one ends up asking the same handful of questions. In this episode, we go through eleven of the most common ones: five about what trauma does to memory of the event itself, and six about what grief does to memory of the person who died. For each one, we look at what the research and clinical literature say is happening, so the goal isn't to explain the pain away, but to show these are documented, well-understood responses, not signs something is wrong with you.
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On grief and the memory of the person they lost:
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This is Part 2 of the Conversation with Francis Weller. If you haven't listened to Part 1 yet, start here.
There are voices in the grief world that stop you in your tracks — not because they are loud, but because they carry something true. Francis Weller is one of those voices. I have followed his work for some time, moved by the depth of his writing and the rare quality of his presence, and I have long wanted to bring him into this conversation. Today, that moment has arrived, and I am genuinely looking forward to what we will explore together.
Francis brings to this work something that is not easy to name but impossible to miss — a willingness to sit inside the hardest human experiences without rushing toward resolution, and a gift for language that meets grief where it actually lives.
In this episode, we cover
About today's guest
Francis Weller is a psychotherapist, writer, and soul activist. Author of the bestselling The Wild Edge of Sorrow: Rituals of Renewal and the Sacred Work of Grief and In the Absence of the Ordinary: Soul Work for Times of Uncertainty, he has introduced the healing work of ritual to thousands of people. His writing and voice have appeared in anthologies, journals, and media such as Anderson Cooper's All There Is podcast, The Sun, Utne Reader, Kosmos Journal, and Ruminate. He is currently completing his fourth book, Facing the World with Soul and Why It Matters.
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There are voices in the grief world that stop you in your tracks — not because they are loud, but because they carry something true. Francis Weller is one of those voices. I have followed his work for some time, moved by the depth of his writing and the rare quality of his presence, and I have long wanted to bring him into this conversation. Today, that moment has arrived, and I am genuinely looking forward to what we will explore together.
Francis brings to this work something that is not easy to name but impossible to miss — a willingness to sit inside the hardest human experiences without rushing toward resolution, and a gift for language that meets grief where it actually lives.
In this episode, we cover
About today's guest
Francis Weller is a psychotherapist, writer, and soul activist. Author of the bestselling The Wild Edge of Sorrow: Rituals of Renewal and the Sacred Work of Grief and In the Absence of the Ordinary: Soul Work for Times of Uncertainty, he has introduced the healing work of ritual to thousands of people. His writing and voice have appeared in anthologies, journals, and media such as Anderson Cooper's All There Is podcast, The Sun, Utne Reader, Kosmos Journal, and Ruminate. He is currently completing his fourth book, Facing the World with Soul and Why It Matters.
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This episode is different. Instead of sitting across from a guest, I am the one in the chair.
Fifteen years ago, my daughter Amaya was born at 34 weeks and 5 days — about five weeks early — alongside her identical twin sister, and died two days later after we made the hardest decision of our lives. In this solo episode, recorded on the anniversary itself, I walk you through that week in the NICU — and then through what fifteen years of time has, and hasn't, done to my grief.
My intention isn't to dwell on the loss itself, but on the question underneath it: what does time actually do to grief? I share the distinction I've come to rely on with my own clients — that loss is a fact, unchanging, while grieving is a living process that keeps changing shape. I also look at how memory itself works, why some moments from that week are as vivid today as they were then, and why fifteen years haven't erased the sadness — nor should it.
"Loss is a fact. It will not change, as much as you want it to. Grieving, however, is a process — and this is why I prefer 'grieving' over 'grief.'"
If you're carrying a loss that people expect you to be "over" by now, if you've ever been told time heals all wounds and wondered why it hasn't for you, or if you support someone whose grief doesn't fit a tidy timeline, this episode is for you.
Free resources mentioned in this episode are available at nathaliehimmelrich.com/free-resources-hub, including the Beginner's Guide to Dealing with Grief and Trauma.
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On the 21st of June 2026, this podcast turns four years old. In this anniversary episode, I step away from the interview format to speak directly to the people who have made this show what it is: the guests who gave their time and their honesty, and the listeners who showed up week after week — in the hardest seasons of their lives — and kept listening.
This episode is a thank-you, a reflection, and a request. I talk about what four years of conversations about grief and trauma have taught me, what I have witnessed in the impact these conversations have had on listeners, and what I am asking of this community as we move into year five.
If this podcast has ever helped you — even once — this episode is for you. And if you know someone who is grieving, please share it with them.
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00:00 Welcome
00:49 Today's episode
4th anniversary
02:26 Part 1: The guests
05:10 Part 2: What I have witnessed in these conversations
07:44 Part 3: What this has made possible for listeners
10:50 Part 4: A request
12:15 Please leave a review
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In this final mini-series episode, I reveal and revisit number one — the most listened-to episode in the podcast’s history: my conversation with Turiya Hanover on the loss of significant partners in life.
Turiya is the co-founder of Path Retreats and the Path of Love process, a therapist and course leader with over five decades of experience. In Episode 4, she speaks from inside fresh grief — the recent loss of her beloved partner Maja — while also bringing the hard-won wisdom of having lost her husband Welf suddenly and unexpectedly in 1981. And from inside that grief, she shares what came to her: Love Is All. The love does not go. The separation is real, but love overcomes it.
This is the conversation that launched a community. Four years and over 180 episodes later, it is still the one listeners return to most.
Listen to the original episode: Episode 4 — Turiya Hanover | The Loss of Significant Partners in Life
Also listen to: E26 — Grief in the First Year and Coming Out of Trauma | E64 — Grief, Trauma, Essence, Connection and Safety
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Chapters:
00:00 Welcome
00:49 Today's episode
01:27 Welcome to the Mini Series
02:50 Top 10 - Number 1
03:17 About Turiya Hanover
04:12 Turiya's biography
Why this episode is special to me
09:00 Why is this episode at Number 1?
10:37 Why it resonated with listeners
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In this mini-series episode, I revisit number two in the top ten most listened-to episodes: Episode 1 — the very first conversation I ever recorded for this podcast — with Rachel Tenpenny on why and how healing is possible after loss.
Rachel’s twin daughters, Aubrey and Ellie, were born in 2008 and died a few days after their birth. In the years that followed, she made a promise to them: to learn how to heal after loss and share what she learned. She is a grief expert, emotional well-being specialist, and life-after-loss coach who believes — with hard-won certainty — that grief is not forever, and that healing is a choice available to anyone willing to make it.
This is where the podcast began. Four years and over 180 episodes later, it remains one of the most listened-to conversations in the show’s history.
Listen to the original episode: Episode 1 — Rachel Tenpenny | Why and How Healing Is Possible
Also listen to: E50 — Cultivating Healing Versus Coping Mechanism | E88 — Grieving Parents 10 Years Later
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Chapters:
00:00 Welcome
00:49 Today's episode
01:27 Welcome to the Mini Series
02:50 Top 10 - Number 2
03:17 About Rachel Tennpenny McGonigle
04:27 Grief is not forever
06:23 What resonated with me
07:20 Why it resonated with listeners
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