With Mary and Andrew from EdgePerma.com

In This Podcast: Andrew Tuttle and Mary Marshall, co-founders of Edge Perma and Redtail Edge Design, share how they’re using immersive technology to transform regenerative agriculture education. Drawing from backgrounds in permaculture, ecological design, and lived experiences of healing through land stewardship, they explain how virtual farm tours can make regenerative systems accessible to anyone, anywhere. The conversation explores permaculture as a pathway to peace, community resilience, and personal healing, while highlighting the power of relationship-building, service, and inclusive learning. This episode weaves together technology, ethics, and heart-centered education to reimagine how people connect with land and food systems.

Episode Highlights

1. Immersive virtual tours as a tool to “copy and paste” regenerative systems
2. Permaculture as a framework for peace, food security, and climate resilience
3. Using technology to expand access to farm-based learning
4. The emotional and healing power of land stewardship
5. Teaching ethics, design, and systems thinking through lived examples
6. Shifting from rejection to resonance through service and community care
7. Education designed for inclusion, not gatekeeping

Key Questions Answered

How did Andrew and Mary’s journey lead them to permaculture and regenerative agriculture?

Their path began with questioning systems of conflict and scarcity, combined with personal grief and a search for healing. Permaculture offered a framework where humans could become restorative forces within ecosystems and communities.

What problem do virtual farm tours solve in regenerative education?

Most people never get to visit functional regenerative farms. Virtual tours bring these spaces to students, growers, and communities, removing barriers of geography, mobility, time, and cost.

How do Edge Perma’s virtual farm tours work?

They combine 360° video, drone footage, aerial panoramas, 3D models, and clickable learning elements to show farms from every angle, including system evolution over time.

What makes virtual tours different from in-person farm visits?

They add layers of understanding—like aerial views, topography, and system mapping—that aren’t possible on foot, while complementing (not replacing) real-world visits.

How does this approach support different learning styles?

The immersive, visual format supports neurodiverse learners and people who struggle with traditional classroom-based education, helping more people feel seen and included.

What role does community and service play in their success?

Andrew and Mary describe a shift from self-promotion to service, relationship-building, and listening—an ethic that unlocked trust, collaboration, and new opportunities.

What does success mean to them beyond business growth?

Success is measured in meaningful human impact—healing landscapes, supporting grief and remembrance, and creating spaces that nurture both people and the planet.

Key Topics & Entities

1. Edge Perma
2. Redtail Edge Design
3. Virtual farm tours
4. Regenerative agriculture
5. Permaculture design
6. 360° video and drone technology
7. Accessible education
8. Inspiration Farm
9. Alderleaf Wilderness College
10. Dave Boehnlein
11. WSU Extension
12. Edmonds College
13. Healing landscapes

Calls to Action & Resources

1. Edge Perma virtual tours — https://edgeperma.com
2. Follow Edge Perma on Instagram — https://www.instagram.com/edgeperma
3. Contact Andrew Tuttle — [email protected]
4. Show notes & episode page — https://www.urbanfarm.org/EdgePerma

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