In this episode, we speak with Dave Chapman, co-founder of the Real Organic Project, about the political and ecological crossroads facing the organic food movement. Dave reflects on the industrial takeover of the USDA organic label and why he believes decentralization—not scaling—is key to meaningful change. The conversation explores the deep ties between soil health, human health, and corporate power, questioning whether collapse is necessary for real transformation. Dave also shares insights from past guests on climate, culture, and the true meaning of sustainability. The episode wraps with a rapid-fire Q&A, touching on books, bread, and the surprising food that might just help us trust our taste buds again.

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Timestamps

[0:00] Intro

[3:09] The origins of the Real Organic Project

[11:37] Why revisit the 1970s counterculture today?

[23:12] Politics enters the food conversation

[33:45] Human health and the need for real food

[50:28] Decentralization as the key to food system change

[1:04:12] Origins of organic and how it became political

[1:40:09] Nutritional dark matter and industrial farming

[1:52:11] Environmental health and climate impacts

[2:00:06] Gluten, gut health, and heritage grains

[2:03:00] Agriculture as a social and cultural movement

[2:07:10] Rapid fire Q&A and closing reflections

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In this episode we speak with Kish Johnson from Advancing Eco Agriculture about how data-driven tools like SAP analysis and foliar sprays are transforming regenerative farming. Kish shares how farms are eliminating pests and diseases through optimized plant nutrition and improved photosynthesis. The conversation dives into the connection between soil biology, profitability, and nutrient density. Kish also addresses skepticism around ag “products” and offers a humble, science-based approach to farm improvement. The episode wraps with news of a research partnership between AEA and the Market Gardener Institute to adapt these tools for small-scale growers.

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Timestamps

[8:37] The hopeful message of regenerative agriculture

[12:17] Understanding the economic “J curve” in farming transitions

[19:08] What Advancing Eco Agriculture (AEA) actually does for farmers

[24:23] Fighting orchard disease with SAP analysis

[27:17] Why SAP analysis is like a blood test for plants

[31:04] The power of foliar sprays for nutrient uptake

[43:27] Increasing photosynthesis for crop resilience and yield

[48:23] Nutrient corrections that boost photosynthesis

[52:01] The role of seed inoculants and microbial colonization

[1:04:16] Insect pressure and the myth of “holes mean healthy”

[1:06:00] How protein synthesis deters aphids

[1:13:47] Giving farmers real decision-making power through data

[1:21:04] Collaboration between AEA and the Market Gardener Institute

[1:28:58] Making nutrient density measurable and marketable

[1:33:59] “There’s no such thing as cheap food” – nutrient density and health

[1:36:20] The most common global farming issue Kish observes

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Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass/ 

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Advancing Eco Agriculture:

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Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/advancingecoag/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/advancingecoag/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRApdrU3BA0Pzo6MNWTD2jg

Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/advancingecoag Podcast: https://regenerativeagriculturepodcast.com/ 

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In this episode, we sit down withChloé Roy, seasoned flower farmer, teacher at the Market Gardener Institute, and author of a new book on flower farming. She shares her journey from vegetable farming to building Floramama, a thriving flower farm, and the lessons learned along the way. Chloé discusses the business side of flower farming and sheds light on the hidden environmental and ethical costs of conventional flowers and why local flower farms are part of a growing movement.

Chloé also reflects on scaling back production, prioritizing work-life balance, and her dream of documenting a world tour of flower farms. Whether you're a market gardener or a flower enthusiast, this episode is full of insights to help you grow flowers more profitably and sustainably.

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Timestamps

[06:40] The hidden costs of the conventional flower industry and why local flowers matter

[12:12] The rise of the small flower farm movement

[18:51] Applying bio-intensive market gardening to flower farming

[27:15] Challenges in growing Lisianthus and Ranunculus – Trial, error, and success

[32:40] Pricing flowers correctly and educating customers on their value

[39:24] Market strategies – Selling at farmers' markets, CSAs, and to florists

[45:08] Scaling up to a $380K farm operation – Managing a team and business growth

[51:22] Scaling back – Shifting focus to seed and bulb production

[56:10] Chloé’s dream – A world tour documenting flower farms

[1:10:54] Lessons in business planning and work-life balance

[1:24:19] Advice for new flower farmers[1:41:07] Rapid fire Q&A

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Floramama:

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Website: https://www.floramama.ca/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/floramama 

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In this episode, we sit down with Doug and Kayleigh fromBreadseed Farm, who share their inspiring journey of leaving salaried farm management positions tostart their own one-acre, no-till, human-powered farmin Vermont. They open up about the challenges and rewards ofmaking the leap to farm ownership, including thefear of financial instability and the excitement ofbuilding something from the ground up.

We discuss the realities ofmaking a living as small-scale farmers, how they grew their farm to nearly$200K in revenue in just a few years, and the importance of creatingefficient systems to maximize productivity.

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Timestamps

[10:47] Leaving salaried farm management to start their own farm

[15:17] Acquiring land and starting Breadseed Farm during COVID

[20:51] HowThe Market Gardener book inspired their no-till transition

[26:25] Managing a farm crew: Lessons in communication and efficiency

[30:40] The importance of community engagement and on-farm experiences

[38:06] Breaking into farmers markets and building strong sales channels

[44:12] Why community-driven markets drive farm success

[50:15] Balancing work-life and avoiding burnout as farmers

[58:39] Expanding revenue streams: Flowers, CSA, and microgreens

[1:06:04] Greenhouse production and extending the growing season

[1:14:13] The financial impact of selling flowers and value-added products

[1:21:21] Kayleigh’s wreath-making and value-added farm products

[1:36:24] Rapid Fire Q&A - East Of Edenby John Steinbeck &The Orchard by Adele Crockett Robertson

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Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/breadseedfarm/

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JM:

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This week we chat with Dan Brisebois from Tourne-Sol Farm about the importance of seed saving for market gardeners. Dan shares his journey from agricultural engineering to co-founding a thriving worker co-op farm that balances vegetable production with a successful seed business. We explore the practicalities of growing your own seeds, debunk myths about cross-pollination, and discuss how seed saving can boost resilience and profitability. Dan also highlights the benefits of cooperative farming for work-life balance and introduces his new book, The Seed Farmer, a hands-on guide to seed production.

The Seed Farmer by Dan Brisebois. Get the book and start growing and saving your own seeds this farming season!

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Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danbrisebois.farm

Tourne-Sol Farm & Seed Company: https://fermetournesol.qc.ca 

JM:

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Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier 

Timestamps

[2:21] Dan’s journey into farming and how he co-founded Tourne-Sol Farm.

[5:56] Starting a cooperative farm: Challenges and lessons learned.

[10:42] Is a fully self-sufficient seed farm realistic or just a dream?

[15:14] Open-pollinated vs. hybrid seeds: Understanding the differences.

[20:07] Managing cross-pollination anxiety and best practices.

[25:32] Why market gardeners should consider growing at least some of their own seed.

[30:45] The profitability of seed crops compared to vegetable crops.

[35:18] Growing seed in different climates: Adapting to humidity and regional challenges.

[40:04] Using greenhouses for seed production and improving quality.

[45:39] How market gardeners can integrate seed saving without disrupting production.

[50:51] The cooperative structure of Tourne-Sol Farm and its long-term success.

[55:20] Holistic management and work-life balance in a co-op farm.

[1:00:12] The realities of running a seed business: Marketing, sales, and logistics.

[1:05:46] Dan’s book The Seed Farmer: Why it’s a must-read for growers.

[1:10:28] The moment Dan realized he wanted to be a farmer.

[1:15:14] Reflections on the future of seed sovereignty and resilient farming.

[1:30:00] Rapid fire Q&A, Wheel Of Time novel series by Robert Jordan

In this solo episode, Jean-Martin Fortier takes a deep dive into the question: Is it still realistic to start a small organic farm today? Addressing both aspiring and seasoned farmers, he explores the financial viability of small-scale farming, the challenges of land access, and the shifting landscape of local food systems. JM emphasizes that, despite obstacles, small farms remain economically viable and play a crucial role in strengthening local economies and food sovereignty. With a call for unity in the face of growing corporate influence and climate change challenges, this episode is a rallying cry for farmers to stay resilient, engaged, and committed to the movement.

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Timestamps

[03:22] The need for economic data on small farms

[05:01] Challenges with policy & institutional support

[08:51] Is it still realistic to start a small farm?

[13:01] Social justice & small farming

[16:06] The importance of local food systems

[19:23] The corporate threat to local food

[20:17] Ecology, community & lifestyle

[26:17] The mindset of a successful farmer

[30:40] The responsibility of experienced farmers

[33:00] The global reach of the small farm movement

[36:28] The need for farmer leadership & policy advocacy

[37:51] The CANOPY program & strengthening farmer networks

[38:46] The fragility & power of the small farming movement

[40:14] Climate change & small farms as a solution

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Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier 

In this episode, we sit down with Akos Asare from Re.Planted Farm & Floral Studio, who shares her inspiring journey from running a custom wig business to becoming a suburban flower farmer. Akos reveals how the COVID-19 pandemic prompted her to pivot and embrace farming as a response to global supply chain challenges and her quest for deeper fulfillment.

We discuss the challenges of transitioning into farming without an agricultural background, the importance of following your intuition, and the value of community connections in building a sustainable urban farm. Akos also highlights the innovative ways she has maximized her small plot of land, including her creative crop planning techniques and her focus on flowers over vegetables.

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Timestamps

[0:12] Realizing the impact of small communal actions

[1:55] Introduction and masterclass announcement

[4:16] The journey from wig business to farming

[7:42] Transitioning careers: lessons from Dragons’ Den

[12:07] Life as a military family and adapting to change

[18:00] The concept of "Replanted Farm" and its meaning

[24:10] Influences from YouTube and market gardening pioneers

[31:25] Soil care and no-dig gardening methods

[40:00] Building community through farming collaborations

[47:05] Challenges and benefits of urban farming

[52:40] Raising children with a connection to nature

[1:00:40] The importance of detailed crop planning

[1:11:00] Learning to farm: embracing resources and community

[1:18:35] Overcoming internal challenges in farming

[1:26:00] Urban farming as a model for future food systems

[1:36:15] The importance of physical community presence over social media

[1:41:44] Rapid Fire Q&A

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Akos:

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Website: https://www.replantedfarm.ca/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/re.PlantedFarm Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/replantedfarm/ 

JM:

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Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier 

This week, we speak with Shane Harper, chef-turned-farmer who combines culinary expertise with innovative farming practices to bridge the gap between the farm and the table.

Shane shares his journey from running pastry kitchens in Toronto to becoming a grower for one of Canada's premier farm-to-table restaurants. He explores how his structured approach in fine dining kitchens informed his farming methods, focusing on efficiency, flavor, and the lifecycle of plants. We dive into his philosophy of creating self-sustaining systems on the farm, his insights on working with chefs to redefine "farm-to-table," and the importance of reconnecting people with the land.

Shane highlights the value of precision in farming, his experiments with unique crops, and his belief in the "great reskilling" movement—encouraging a return to hands-on, sustainable trades. This conversation is a deep dive into the intersection of hospitality and agriculture, offering inspiration for chefs, farmers, and food enthusiasts alike.

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Timestamps

[03:29] Transitioning from fine dining to establishing a farm-to-table garden.

[07:15] Starting the garden at a Michelin-starred restaurant and earning a Green Star.

[10:10] Building a sustainable farm and experimenting with new crops.

[15:00] Understanding crop lifecycles and their applications in culinary farming.

[18:50] Developing self-regulating farm systems and animal integration.

[22:15] Challenges in learning through trial and error as a new farmer.

[26:30] Working directly with chefs to craft menus and ingredient strategies.

[31:45] Transitioning from market gardening to hospitality-driven farming.

[35:20] The importance of flavor-driven agriculture and chef collaborations.

[40:30] Learning from mistakes and adapting farm practices.

[45:50] Exploring the future of farming as a celebrated profession.

[50:10] The power of storytelling in connecting guests with farm experiences.

[55:20] Advice for farmers working with chefs and understanding their needs.

[01:00:40] Economics of running a farm for a restaurant.

[01:05:20] Joys and challenges of farming life.

[01:10:15] The "great reskilling" and its cultural significance.

[01:15:00] Final reflections on farming as a timeless and essential profession.

[01:21:10] Rapid Fire Q&A - The French Laundry by Thomas Keller

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Shane:

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https://www.instagram.com/pirate.produce

https://www.instagram.com/garden_pearlmorissette

https://www.instagram.com/pearlmorissette 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/restaurantpearlmorissette 

JM:

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Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier 

In this solo episode, Jean-Martin Fortier dives into the evolving landscape of sustainable farming, exploring the differences and connections between organic, regenerative, and small-scale agriculture. He highlights the importance of maintaining organic certification to ensure transparency and accountability while addressing concerns about greenwashing in the regenerative movement. JM emphasizes the need for localized, decentralized farming systems rooted in healthy soils and human-scale operations, advocating for unity within the movement to combat the challenges posed by industrialized agriculture. 

If this episode inspires you to rethink the possibilities of small-scale farming, we invite you to take it a step further. From January 14 to 16, join our FREE and LIVE workshop Money Talks where we’ll dive into the numbers behind real farms. This practical and inspiring event will show how small farms can be both a solution and a profitable path forward.

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Timestamps

[6:40] Evolution of organic farming: From pioneers to present day

[10:09] Regenerative agriculture: The new buzzword

[13:13] Greenwashing concerns: Loosely defined standards

[15:29] Organic certification: Why it still matters

[16:49] Scale in agriculture: Localized versus industrialized

[20:24] Soil and scale: Core to sustainable farming

[22:01] Movement clarity: Avoiding manipulation and staying united

[23:28] Economic impact: Local farms as community drivers

[24:23] Workshop announcement: “Money Talks” free event in January

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Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier 

In this episode, we dive into the world of market gardening with Jodi Roebuck, a globally inspired farmer from New Zealand. Jodi shares his journey from surfing on volcanic coastlines to building a thriving farm from compact subsoil, emphasizing soil health, composting, and efficient farming techniques. Drawing on lessons from traveling the world and visiting diverse farms, he highlights the value of learning through hands-on experience and cross-disciplinary inspiration. We discuss the principles of bio-intensive farming, lean systems, and the art of balancing productivity with sustainability. This conversation explores the resilience, innovation, and passion it takes to create a farm that’s not just a livelihood but a meaningful connection to the land and community.

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Timestamps

[1:48] Turning volcanic subsoil into thriving farmland.

[5:33] Surfing as a metaphor for farming: Observation and timing.

[10:04] Building resilience through composting and soil health.

[15:27] The importance of traveling and learning from other farms.

[20:12] Lessons in bio-intensive farming and managing weed pressure.

[25:05] Lean systems: Eliminating waste and maximizing efficiency.

[33:14] Transitioning from seed production to market gardening.

[40:08] Year-round growing: Challenges and strategies for winter crops.

[50:22] Creating strong community connections through local markets.

[1:04:18] Long-term investments and scaling sustainably.

[1:15:42] The future of small-scale farming and expanding potential.

[1:24:33] Family, fitness, and finding balance in farm life.

[1:30:12] Designing farms for efficiency and reduced labor.

[1:40:45] Reflections on the global movement for sustainable farming.

[1:50:12] Rapid-fire Q&A and final thoughts on farming inspiration.

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