Part 1: Frances Widdowson joins us to discuss her recent arrest at the University of Victoria, the growing political backlash she faces for questioning the official narrative around the 215 “unmarked graves” at Kamloops, and why attempts to open evidence-based discussion on residential-school graves are being shut down on Canadian campuses.

Part 2: Tom Flanagan joins the conversation as we examine the collective guilt being imposed on Canadians, the implications of the recent Cowichan Tribes court decision, and what these developments mean for free speech, historical truth, and the future direction of the country.

Frances Widdowson is a Canadian political scientist and former associate professor at Mount Royal University who was fired in 2021 (a termination later ruled disproportionate by an arbitrator) after years of public criticism of Indigenous policy, the “Aboriginal industry,” and what she calls the “Grave Error” narrative surrounding the 2021 Kamloops unmarked-graves announcement. Co-author of the books Disrobing the Aboriginal Industry and Grave Error, she argues that many claims about residential-school mass graves lack forensic evidence and have been exaggerated for political and financial gain.

Tom Flanagan is a Canadian professor emeritus at the University of Calgary; former advisor to Prime Minister Stephen Harper. Author of books on Métis history (e.g., The Diaries of Louis Riel, 1976) and libertarian policy critiques on aboriginal land claims. Senior Fellow at the Fraser Institute; elected to the Royal Society of Canada in 1996. Recently co-authored Dead Wrong on residential schools, sparking debate on unmarked graves.

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