In this episode of Barely Famous, Kail sits down with Dr. Phil for a candid, wide-ranging conversation you probably didn’t see coming. They talk about his journey from forensic psychology and trial consulting to becoming a household name in daytime television, and how media and people have evolved along the way.

From addiction and true crime to cancel culture and the power of public opinion, Dr. Phil shares his perspective on why people do what they do and what it really takes to change. Kail also reflects on her own full-circle moment with him, making this episode both personal and unexpectedly insightful.

Tune into Mystery & Murder and The Dr. Phil Podcast for more!

For full video episodes head to patreon.com/kaillowry

Thanks for supporting the show by checking out the sponsors!

Hiya: for 50% off their best selling children’s vitamin head to hiyahealth.com/famous

To find the right home for you head to apartments.com

OPositiv: Take proactive care of your health at opositiv.com/famous for 25% off your first purchase

HERS: start your initial free visit at forhers.com/barelyfamous.

Progressive: To get your auto insurance quote head to progressive.com

Super+ RX: Stop overpaying for your prescriptions. Go to Super.com/rx right now to see how much you can save.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.