Art of Boring

A deep dive into the psychological approach to finding opportunity | EP154


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Building on his conversation in Episode 153, Portfolio Manager Samir Taghiyev takes a deep dive into the mental models and frameworks that Mawer uses to evaluate company management teams, particularly within the small-cap space. Using both personal and financial examples, he illustrates the benefit of exploration and exploitation, striking a balance between focus and curiosity, and identifying opportunities on the S curve of the corporate lifecycle. Key points from this episode:

  • Company management can be evaluated by determining if they are growing revenues while controlling costs and risks. This can be combined with other frameworks to create a comprehensive picture.
  • The exploration vs. exploitation framework can be used to evaluate how well management balances focus with curiosity.
  • There are four phases in the S curve of the corporate lifecycle—startup, growth, maturity, and decline. Mawer focuses on companies in the middle two phases, with Trisura and TerraVest provided as examples.
  • Incrementalism is very important when it comes to exploration vs. exploitation because it strikes a key balance between spending to de-risk and learning.
  • Companies can either drive growth organically, often through the introduction of new products, or inorganically through acquisitions.
  • Using the “look back” and “trust but verify” processes, the small-cap team leverages their historical notes and third-party information to improve their verification of management claims.

Host: Kevin Minas, CFA, Institutional Portfolio Manager Guest: Samir Taghiyev, CFA, Portfolio Manager For more details and full transcript visit: https://www.mawer.com/the-art-of-boring/ This episode is available for download anywhere you get your podcasts.

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