On this week's Insights podcast, Don and David talk with Chief Terry Richardson and Councilor Jim Richardson from the Pabineau First Nation in Northern New Brunswick. This is another in our series of conversations with First Nations leaders who are driving economic development across Atlantic Canada.  There are many inspiring stories including our conversation today.  We talk about commercial development, housing, and the long-term opportunities for energy development in northeastern New Brunswick.  Chief Terry and Jim also reflect on the challenges that still remain and the need for a stronger partnership between First Nations and the provincial government.