No Way Out

A General’s View on Boyd, Leadership and Agility with Maj Gen Brook J. Leonard, USAF | Ep 8


Listen Later

Send us a text

Maj Gen Brook J. “Tank” Leonard, USAF is an experienced leader in the U.S. Air Force. He has extensive leadership experience with a wide range of organizations of various scales; in several complex and uncertain environments, including combat. He is currently the Deputy Commander and Director of Operations at Combined Joint Task Force - Space Operations, leading planning and operations for United States Space Command. He has flown numerous aircraft, including the F-16 and F-35, with over 3,000 flight hours, including 576 combat hours. Maj Gen Leonard is a graduate of the U.S. Air Force Academy, USAF Weapons School and has attained multiple masters degrees throughout his career.

Chapters in this episode include:

  • Iron Eagle vs. Top Gun
  • Why Fighter Aviation
  • Energy-Maneuverability (Agility) Theory
  • Navy TOPGUNs Take Boyd to School
  • Distributed Leadership, Weapons School (Top Gun)  Style
  • The Art and Science of the Debrief (Feedback Loop)
  • Leadership Lessons from Secretary Mattis 
  • Bounded Applicability: Effects-Based Operations (Value-Focused Thinking)
  • New Domain, New Culture and the Power of Cognitive Diversity
  • IOHAI: The Secret Behind Team Orientation
  • Red Teaming: Challenging Assumptions and Improving Decision Facilitation 
  • Leading a Fearless Organization (Psychological Safety) 
  • F-16 vs. F-35? 
  • Merging Cultures
  • The Space Imperative 

Be sure to use the Chapters Feature on Apple and Spotify to quickly browse and navigate to segments of this episode.

Maj Gen Brook J. Leonard Bio
Maj Gen Brook J. L

John R. Boyd's Conceptual Spiral was originally titled No Way Out. In his own words: 

“There is no way out unless we can eliminate the features just cited. Since we don’t know how to do this, we must continue the whirl of reorientation…”

March 25, 2025

Flow Learning Lab

Find us on X. @NoWayOutcast
Substack: The Whirl of ReOrientation

Want to develop your organization’s capacity for free and independent action (Organic Success)? Learn more and follow us at:
https://www.aglx.com/
https://www.youtube.com/@AGLXConsulting
https://www.linkedin.com/company/aglx-consulting-llc/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/briandrivera
https://www.linkedin.com/in/markjmcgrath1
https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevemccrone

Stay in the Loop. Don't have time to listen to the podcast? Want to make some snowmobiles? Subscribe to our weekly newsletter to receive deeper insights on current and past episodes.
Recent podcasts where you’ll also find Mark and Ponch:

The No Bell Podcast Episode 24
...

...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

No Way OutBy Mark McGrath and Brian "Ponch" Rivera

  • 4.6
  • 4.6
  • 4.6
  • 4.6
  • 4.6

4.6

39 ratings


More shows like No Way Out

View all
EconTalk by Russ Roberts

EconTalk

4,264 Listeners

Jocko Podcast by Jocko DEFCOR Network

Jocko Podcast

30,808 Listeners

War on the Rocks by Ryan Evans

War on the Rocks

1,069 Listeners

The Fifth Column by Kmele Foster, Michael Moynihan, and Matt Welch

The Fifth Column

2,880 Listeners

Modern War Institute by Modern War Institute at West Point

Modern War Institute

768 Listeners

The Proceedings Podcast by U.S. Naval Institute

The Proceedings Podcast

211 Listeners

Modern Wisdom by Chris Williamson

Modern Wisdom

3,939 Listeners

DarkHorse Podcast by Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying

DarkHorse Podcast

5,318 Listeners

Urban Warfare Project by John Spencer

Urban Warfare Project

227 Listeners

GoodFellows: Conversations from the Hoover Institution by Hoover Institution

GoodFellows: Conversations from the Hoover Institution

691 Listeners

Irregular Warfare Podcast by Irregular Warfare Initiative

Irregular Warfare Podcast

404 Listeners

School of War by Nebulous Media

School of War

470 Listeners

Honestly with Bari Weiss by The Free Press

Honestly with Bari Weiss

8,697 Listeners

The Foreign Affairs Interview by Foreign Affairs Magazine

The Foreign Affairs Interview

450 Listeners

The Winston Marshall Show by Winston Marshall

The Winston Marshall Show

433 Listeners