A Meal of Thorns

A Meal of Thorns

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A Meal of Thorns episodes

  • A Meal of Thorns 11 – THE BALLAD OF BLACK TOM with Garrett Bridger Gilmore

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    Credits:

    • Guest: Garrett Bridger Gilmore
    • Title: The Ballad of Black Tom by Victor LaValle
    • Host: Jake Casella Brookins
    • Music by Giselle Gabrielle Garcia
    • Artwork by Rob Patterson
    • Opening poem by Bhartṛhari, translated by John Brough


    References:

    • “The Horror At Redhook” by H.P. Lovecraft
    • Lovecraft Country by Matt Ruff
    • The Night Ocean by Paul LaFarge
    • Lone Women by Victor LaValle
    • The Dunwich Horror by H.P. Lovecraft
    • “The Lovecraft Boomlet” of adaptions/retellings/reworkings
    • Annihilation by Jeff VanderMeer
    • The Underground Railroad by Colson Whitehead
    • Get Out directed by Jordan Peele
    • Ta-Nehisi Coates’ Black Panther run, Between the World and Me, The Water Dancer
    • The Fifth Season by N.K. Jemisin
    • The World Fantasy Award
    • Michael Crichton, Jurassic Park
    • Kindred by Octavia Butler
    • Slapboxing with Jesus by Victor LaValle
    • James by Percival Everett
    • Aida Levy-Hussen’s How to Read African American Literature- reparative & prohibitive readings
    • Toni Morrison’s Beloved
    • P. Djèlí Clark’s Ring Shout
    • “Ozymandias” by Percy Bysshe Shelley
    • HPL’s At the Mountains of Madness
    • "Lovecraft in Brooklyn" by The Mountain Goats, from Heretic Pride
    • Vajra Chandrasekera’s The Saint of Bright Doors
    • R.F. Kuang’s Babel, or The Necessity of Violence
    • Garrett's twitter
    • Pauline Hopkins’ Of One Blood


    1 hr 12 min
  • A Meal of Thorns 10 – TAINARON with Shinjini Dey

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    Credits:

    • Guest: Shinjini Dey
    • Title: Tainaron: Mail From Another City by Leena Krohn, translated by Hildi Hawkins
    • Host: Jake Casella Brookins
    • Music by Giselle Gabrielle Garcia
    • Artwork by Rob Patterson
    • Opening poem by Bhartṛhari, translated by John Brough


    References:

    • George Eliot’s Silas Marner, Elizabeth Gaskell’s Cranford, Charles Dickens, Karl Marx 
    • The “Post-Exotic” novels by Antoine Volodine etc- Kree, Mevlido’s Dreams, Postexoticism in 12 Lessons
    • The New Weird, ed. Ann & Jeff VanderMeer
    • On the Calculation of Volume by Solvej Balle, translated by Barbara Haveland
    • Wonderbook by Jeff VanderMeer
    • Italo Calvino’s Invisible Cities
    • Renee Gladman’s Houses of Ravicka
    • "Big Dumb Objects"
    • Jeff VanderMeer’s Southern Reach
    • Jeff VanderMeer’s Hummingbird Salamander & Casella’s review
    • "The Look", "The Gaze"
    • Entomologist Jean-Henri Fabre & mystic Angelus Silesius
    • Emmanuel Levinas & Martin Buber
    • Sofia Samatar’s A Stranger In Olondria
    • Nghi Vo’s The City in Glass & Casella’s review
    • Protagoras
    • “Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose”
    • Longhorn beetles
    • J.R.R. Tolkien’s idea of “sub-creation”
    • Shinjini’s website & twitter
    • How did I fail to mention TMBG's "Snail Shell"?


    1 hr 10 min
  • A Meal of Thorns 09 – PATTERN RECOGNITION with Sunny Moraine

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    Credits:

    • Guest: Sunny Moraine
    • Title: Pattern Recognition by William Gibson
    • Host: Jake Casella Brookins
    • Music by Giselle Gabrielle Garcia
    • Artwork by Rob Patterson
    • Opening poem by Bhartṛhari, translated by John Brough


    References:

    • Your Shadow Half Remains
    • Long Hidden: Speculative Fiction From the Margins of History
    • Looming Low
    • Singing With All My Skin and Bone
    • Serial horror podcast Gone
    • The Shadow Files of Morgan Knox
    • Gibson's Neuromancer, Virtual Light, Mona Lisa Overdrive, “The Gernsback Continuum”, The Peripheral, “Fragments of a Hologram Rose”
    • Frank Herbert’s Dune and Dune Messiah
    • Ursula K. Le Guin’s The Left Hand of Darkness
    • Nathan Ballingrud’s Crypt of the Moon Spider, The Strange, and North American Lake Monsters
    • China Miéville’s The City and the City
    • Michel Foucault's notion of heterotopia
    • Jean Baudrillard's Simulacra and Simulation
    • William Gibson & the Futures of Contemporary Culture edited by Mitch R. Murray and Matthias Nilges
    • Sheryl Vint & Charles Yu
    • Beat writers; Jack Kerouac, Allen Ginsberg, William S. Burroughs
    • Imagism 
    • Mono No Aware
    • Speculative Realism/Object Oriented Ontology; Jane Bennett, Graham Harman, Timothy Morton
    • C.J. Cherryh's notion of “Third Person Intense Internal”
    • Aimee Pokwatka’s Self Portrait With Nothing
    • Kids by The Midnight
    • Sonic Nurse by Sonic Youth
    • Amplitudes edited by Lee Mandelo
    • Sunny on Bluesky
    • World Fantasy Awards

    1 hr 14 min
  • A Meal of Thorns 08 – GILDED NEEDLES with Juan Martinez

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    Credits:

    • Guest: Juan Martinez
    • Title: Gilded Needles by Michael McDowell
    • Host: Jake Casella Brookins
    • Music by Giselle Gabrielle Garcia
    • Artwork by Rob Patterson
    • Opening poem by Bhartṛhari, translated by John Brough


    References:

    • Juan’s collection Best Worst American & horror novel Extended Stay
    • Jackleg Press
    • StoryStudio
    • Tananarive Due's The Reformatory
    • Eden Robins’ Remember You Will Die
    • Sofia Samatar's The Practice, the Horizon, and the Chain
    • Ananda Lima's Craft: Stories I Told the Devil
    • Jesse Ball's The Repeat Room
    • T.E.D. Klein’s The Ceremonies
    • Peter Straub
    • Beetlejuice, directed by Timothy Burton
    • Tales from the Crypt & Tales from the Darkside
    • The Nightmare Before Christmas, directed by Henry Selick
    • McDowell's The Elementals
    • "A little bit like Edith Wharton with more murder"
    • Jaws, directed by Steven Spielberg
    • Arthur Conan Doyle's The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes
    • Victor Hugo’s The Hunchback of Notre Dame & Les Misérables
    • Triangle of Sadness, directed by Ruben Östlund
    • Alexandre Dumas’ The Count of Monte Cristo
    • The Abominable Dr. Phibes, directed by Robert Fuest
    • They Might Be Giants
    • Lydia Lunch
    • Robert Mapplethorpe
    • Patti Smith
    • Shakespeare’s Titus Andronicus & Julie Taymor’s film adaptation
    • Thomas Ligotti, Bruno Schulz, & Franz Kafka
    • McDowell's Death Collection
    • Stephen King, Philip K. Dick, & C.J. Cherryh
    • Anne Lamott’s Bird by Bird
    • The Ghosts of Where We Are From
    • Juan’s DNC protest coverage at the Believer, parts one & two
    • Follow Juan on Instagram & Threads for the good doodle content

    1 hr 5 min
  • A Meal of Thorns 07 – THE TRAITOR BARU CORMORANT with Amal El-Mohtar

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    Credits:

    • Guest: Amal El-Mohtar
    • Title: The Traitor Baru Cormorant by Seth Dickinson
    • Music by Giselle Gabrielle Garcia
    • Artwork by Rob Patterson
    • Opening poem by Bhartṛhari, translated by John Brough


    References:

    • Rakesfall by Vajra Chandrasekera
    • In Universes by Emmet North
    • The Practice, the Horizon, and the Chain by Sofia Samatar
    • Amal’s review of those three novels
    • The Silmarillion by J.R.R. Tolkien
    • The Grace of Kings by Ken Liu
    • The Craft Sequence by Max Gladstone
    • Star Wars
    • Wicked problems
    • A Memory Called Empire by Arkady Martine
    • The Goblin Emperor by Katherine Addison
    • The Fifth Season by N.K. Jemisin
    • Babel, or the Necessity of Violence by R.F. Kuang
    • The Battle of Algiers directed by Gillo Pontecorvo
    • Tony Gilroy’s Star Wars series Andor
    • The Saint of Bright Doors by Vajra Chandrasekera
    • The sequels to Traitor Baru, The Monster Baru Cormorant & The Tyrant Baru Cormorant
    • Commedia dell’arte
    • Lee Mandelo's writing on Eve Sedwgick, paranoid & reparative reading
    • Kameron Hurley & Arkady Martine
    • Exordia by Seth Dickinson
    • The Unaccountability Machine by Dan Davies
    • Amal's next book, The River Has Roots
    • The ballad of The Two Sisters/The Bonny Swans
    • Lud-in-the-Mist by Hope Mirrlees


    1 hr 9 min
  • A Meal of Thorns 06 – THE PASSION with Dan Hartland

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    Credits:

    • Host: Jake Casella Brookins
    • Guest: Dan Hartland
    • Title: The Passion by Jeanette Winterson
    • Music by Giselle Gabrielle Garcia
    • Artwork by Rob Patterson
    • Opening poem by Bhartṛhari, translated by John Brough


    References:

    • This blog has a round-up of articles and commentary on the Gaiman allegations.
    • Dan’s Snap! Criticism series at Ancillary
    • Handheld Press
    • Vonda McInty’re The Exile Waiting & Dreamsnake
    • The 2024 Academic Conference on Canadian Science Fiction and Fantasy
    • Annie Luong on Margaret Atwood’s The Heart Goes Last
    • Neal Stephenson’s Cryptonomicon and the Baroque Cycle
    • Laura van den Berg’s State of Paradise & Casella’s review
    • Don DeLillo’s White Noise
    • Winterson’s Written on the Body, Oranges Are Not The Only Fruit, Why Be Happy When You Can Be Normal, and Frankisstein
    • Bernard Cornwell’s Sharpe novels
    • William Shakespeare’s As You Like It and The Winter’s Tale
    • China Miéville’s The City & The City (though I don’t think we actually name it)
    • Salman Rushdie, Martin Amis
    • Julian Barnes’ A History of the World in 10½ Chapters
    • The 1980s: A Decade of Contemporary British Fiction edited by Emily Horton, Philip Tew, and Leigh Wilson
    • Neil Gaiman, Jeff Noon, Steph Swainston
    • “The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock” by T.S. Eliot
    • Frank Herbert’s Dune
    • Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein
    • Wendy Roy on Cherie Dimaline
    • William Gibson’s Pattern Recognition and others
    • Dan’s piece in LARB on Christopher Priest and his last novel, Airside


    1 hr 14 min
  • A Meal of Thorns 05 – THE EMPLOYEES with A.V. Marraccini

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    Credits:

    • Guest: A.V. Marraccini
    • Title: The Employees by Olga Ravn, translated by Martin Aitken
    • Music by Giselle Gabrielle Garcia
    • Artwork by Rob Patterson
    • Opening poem by Bhartṛhari, translated by John Brough


    References:

    • Vladimir Nabokov’s Ada, or Ardor
    • Anton Hur’s Toward Eternity and Casella’s review
    • A.V.’s forthcoming book, These New Fragilities
    • Nana Kwame Adjei-Brenyah’s Chain Gang All-Stars
    • Presses discussed:
    • Lolli Editions
    • New Directions
    • FSG Press
    • Fitzarraldo
    • Seven Stories
    • Tor
    • Inside the Castle
    • Kristina Carlson’s Eunuch translated from the Finnish by Mikko Alapuro
    • Psychedlic Ray Bradbury covers
    • Jenny Hval’s novels, such as Paradise Rot
    • Samuel R. Delany
    • Vajra Chandrasekera’s The Saint of Bright Doors
    • Gretchen Felker-Martin Manhunt and Cuckoo
    • John Trefry
    • Olga Ravn's My Work
    • Lea Guldditte Hestelund's sculpture
    • Interview with Ravn about Hestelund 
    • Le Guin's Carrier Bag theory of fiction
    • Arthur C. Clarke/Stanley Kubrick’s 2001
    • Stanislaw Lem’s Fiasco
    • Angélica Gorodischer
    • Kim Stanley Robinson's The Ministry for the Future
    • Philip K. Dick’s Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? & Ridley Scott’s Bladerunner
    • Battlestar Galactica
    • Ursula K. Le Guin's The Left Hand of Darkness
    • Jorge Luis Borges & Italo Calvino
    • E. Catherine Tobler's The Necessity of Stars
    • Stanislaw Lem's Solaris
    • Ravn's Twitter @OlgaRavn
    • AV on Twitter @saintsoftness


    55 min
  • A Meal of Thorns 04 – PERELANDRA with Taylor Driggers

    Taylor Driggers joins us to talk about the second volume in C.S. Lewis's SPACE TRILOGY. A richly-described and philosophical science fiction story, PERELANDRA has a lot that's interesting and a lot that's pretty weird when you think about it.

    A Meal of Thorns is a podcast from the Ancillary Review of Books.

    Credits:

    • Guest: Taylor Driggers
    • Title: Perelandra by C.S. Lewis
    • Music by Giselle Gabrielle Garcia
    • Artwork by Rob Patterson
    • Opening poem by Bhartṛhari, translated by John Brough

    References:

    • Queering Faith in Fantasy Literature: Fantastic Incarnations and the Deconstruction of Theology by Taylor Driggers
    • The Ursula Le Guin Archives
    • Laurie Marks’ Elemental Logic novel series
    • Philophantast conference
    • The Centre for Fantasy and the Fantastic at the University of Glasgow
    • Dead Collections by Isaac Fellman (and our episode on it)
    • The Two Doctors Górski by Isaac Fellman
    • The other two novels in the Space Trilogy: Out of the Silent Planet and That Hideous Strength
    • Lewis’s The Chronicles of Narnia
    • The Inklings (wiki link)
    • Lewis’s A Grief Observed
    • Lewis’s final novel Till We Have Faces
    • Ursula Le Guin’s review of Lewis’s The Dark Tower
    • Lewis’s The Great Divorce, Pilgrim’s Regress, and The Screwtape Letters
    • Stephen Metcalf, “Language and Self-Consciousness: The Making and Breaking of C.S. Lewis’ Personae” in Word and Story in C. S. Lewis: Language and Narrative in Theory and Practice ed. Peter J. Schakel & Charles A. Huttar
    • Lewis’s debate with Elizabeth Anscombe
    • J.R.R. Tolkien’s The Lord of the Rings
    • Ridley Scott’s Alien
    • “Sehnsucht”, the concept of inconsolable longing
    • The Transformers franchise
    • Aamer Rahman on defeating Nazis
    • Satan (Milton’s version)
    • Le Guin’s The Left Hand of Darkness and specifically the religion/philosophy of the Handdara
    • Sofia Samatar’s The Practice, The Horizon, and the Chain
    • Casella’s essay on (not) defending science fiction against criticisms of complicity
    • Taylor’s seminar for his work with the Le Guin Fellowship on historicizing queerness in fantasy and “queer hiddenness in the archive”, available online this fall/winter.
    • Greg Egan’s “Oracle”, available on his site (and in the collections Oceanic and The Best of Greg Egan)


    Contact

    RSS feed | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | +lots of other platforms (let us know if it’s not on your favorite)

    You can follow A Meal of Thorns on Twitter and Bluesky.

    Email us at [email protected].

    Support the Show!

    You can support the podcast (and the Ancillary Review of Books) by joining our Patreon. For $5 and up, you get access to ARB's exclusive monthly newsletter, our Discord community, and more to come.

    Interested in purchasing a book we mentioned on the show? Check the show notes for Bookshop links; we get a cut if you buy them through our Bookshop!

    It seems small, but it really does help: like and share our posts! Leave a comment or review wherever you find us. The internet's kind of broken, but that kind of thing really does help people hear about the work we're doing.

    1 hr 14 min
  • A Meal of Thorns 03 – PIRANESI with Misha Grifka Wander

    Ancillary Review editors Jake Casella Brookins and Misha Grifka Wander discuss Susanna Clarke's PIRANESI: epistolary realism and the novel, numinous personhood, and glimpses of utopia in rejecting capitalist expectations.

    Notes, Links, and Transcript

    A Meal of Thorns is a podcast from the Ancillary Review of Books.


    Credits:


    Guest: Misha Grifka Wander

    Title: Piranesi by Susanna Clarke

    Music by Giselle Gabrielle Garcia

    Artwork by Rob Patterson

    Opening poem by Bhartṛhari, translated by John Brough


    References:


    • Misha’s interviews with Sofia Samatar and Vajra Chandrasekera
    • Exordia by Seth Dickinson
    • Arrival (Villeneuve’s adaptation of Ted Chiang’s “Story of Your Life”)
    • Weird Black Girls by Elwin Cotman
    • Disorientation by Elaine Hsieh Chou
    • Starship Troopers (Paul Verhoeven’s film adaptation)
    • The Practice, the Horizon, and the Chain by Sofia Samatar
    • Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell by Susanna Clarke
    • The Chronicles of Narnia by C.S. Lewis
    • Through the Looking Glass & Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll
    • Christopher Nolan’s Memento
    • Philosopher’s including John Locke, Thomas Hobbes, Jean-Jacques Rousseau, and John Rawls
    • Augustine’s Confessions
    • House of Leaves by Mark Z. Danielewski
    • “The Library of Babel” by Jorge Luis Borges
    • Anathem by Neal Stephenson
    • A Stranger in Olondria by Sofia Samatar
    • The Island of Doctor Moreau by H.G. Wells
    • David Lynch’s Twin Peaks
    • Nic Pizzolatto’s True Detective


    Contact

    RSS feed | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | +lots of other platforms (let us know if it’s not on your favorite)

    You can follow A Meal of Thorns on Twitter and Bluesky.

    Email us at [email protected].

    Support the Show!

    You can support the podcast (and the Ancillary Review of Books) by joining our Patreon. For $5 and up, you get access to ARB’s exclusive monthly newsletter, our Discord community, and more to come.

    Interested in purchasing a book we mentioned on the show? Check the show notes for Bookshop links; we get a cut if you buy them through our Bookshop!

    It seems small, but it really does help: like and share our posts! Leave a comment or review wherever you find us. The internet’s kind of broken, but that kind of thing really does help people hear about the work we’re doing.



    1 hr 18 min
  • A Meal of Thorns 02 – DEAD COLLECTIONS with Roseanna Pendlebury

    Host Jake Casella Brookins talks to critic Roseanna Pendlebury about Isaac Fellman's DEAD COLLECTIONS (a novel about a trans vampire archivist) and how it addresses grief, portrayals of bodies and identities over time, fanfic and low-budget television, and the place of more experimental fiction in genre publishing.

    Notes, Links, and Transcript

    Contact

    • RSS feed | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | +lots of other platforms (let us know if it’s not on your favorite)
    • You can follow A Meal of Thorns on Twitter and Bluesky.
    • Email us at [email protected].


    Support the Show!

    • You can support the podcast (and the Ancillary Review of Books) by joining our Patreon. For $5 and up, you get access to ARB’s exclusive monthly newsletter, our Discord community, and more to come.
    • Interested in purchasing a book we mentioned on the show? Check the show notes for Bookshop links; we get a cut if you buy them through our Bookshop!
    • It seems small, but it really does help: like and share our posts! Leave a comment or review wherever you find us. The internet’s kind of broken, but that kind of thing really does help people hear about the work we’re doing.


    1 hr 4 min

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