There are a lot of changes happening in the world, from the "rupture" in the global order to a new host of World Class! Colin Kahl, the new director of the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies at Stanford University, joins Michael McFaul to take on the role of podcast host and discuss how institutions like FSI can better study and contribute understanding about the rapidly changing world.

Colin Kahl is the director of the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies and the Steven C. Házy Senior Fellow. He has served as a senior White House and defense official advising on national security policy under both Republican and Democratic administrations. Most recently he was the under secretary of defense for policy at the U.S. Department of Defense from 2021 to 2023.

Michael McFaul is a senior fellow at the the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies and former director of the institute. His latest book is Autocrats vs. Democrats: China, Russia, America and the New Global Disorder. His personal blog can be found on Substack.

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