Our City of Literature festival continues with today's podcast: A fascinating glimpse into the daily process of making and writing from Sara Baume (Spill Simmer Falter Wither) and Elizabeth Macneal (The Doll Factory), chaired by Jen McDerra. Through writing, sculpture and ceramics, they will offer reflections on isolation, motivation, nature and beauty.

This episode is presented by the National Centre for Writing and the Norfolk & Norwich Festival.

Hosted by Steph McKenna and Simon Jones.

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Music by Bennet Maples.