Mother Jones magazine co-founder, author, and journalist Adam Hochschild joined Michael Krasny for a rich and varied conversation focused on Russia's war with Ukraine. A long-time dove and opponent of U.S. and other nations' wars, Hochschild described himself as an anti-Russia hawk.

The two discussed Vladimir Putin's brutality and lack of human empathy, with Krasny referencing the pro-Russia views of the late left-leaning Princeton professor Stephen Cohen. They explored Putin's obsession with restoring Russia to its former Soviet-era strength.

The dialogue shifted to the appointments by U.S. President-elect Donald Trump of Tulsi Gabbard and Robert F. Kennedy Jr., and worries and fears over the future of the environment. Hochschild also criticized "the kissing of Trump's ring" by major business and Silicon Valley figures. Despite these concerns, he voiced hope for ongoing divisions within the GOP and shared his perspective on the Democratic Party.

The conversation also delved into Hochschild's highly praised book, American Midnight, which examines the period from 1917 to 1921. The two noted chilling parallels between that era and the present day.

The conversation concluded with an assessment of today's Africa and the changing face of Europe with Krasny bringing in questions anchored in pessimism, while Hochschild, despite his ongoing worries, expressed a sanguine point of view.