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On today’s show: Hailey Bieber visibly steps out in NYC without her wedding ring, so how much are we meant to read into it? Jameela Jamil is done being interviewed by women in print, Benson Boone is finally able to get in on the joke, and a newly single Orlando is psyched for Bezos’s Venice wedding, according to TMZ. And then, Zara welcomes us to her algorithm - it’s Dua Lipa at Wembley, of course.

This week, Zara recommended ‘How the RealReal’s founder Julie Wainright built a billion-dollar business’ on Let’s Get Dressed. Mich recommended ‘How I became a brainwashed cult bride’ from ABC Conversations.

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Your hosts are Zara McDonald (@zamcdonald) and Michelle Andrews (@michelleandrews1).

Shameless Podcast is produced by Annabelle Lee and Eilish Gilligan, executive-produced by Lucy Hunt and audio-edited by Mike Liberale. Our social media team consists of Naima Fatema, Emily Li and Emma Sullivan, and our partnerships manager is Cindy Luu.

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