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In this episode we talk with someone from the dark side. She feeds treats! Adele Shaw is an internationally recognized mentor and trainer focused on creating a positive relationship between horse and human through science-based training and care practices. Adele is a Certified Horse Behaviour Consultant with the IAABC and an endorsed trainer with the World Bitless Association. She trains utilizing choice and control, positive reinforcement, behavioral science, the humane hierarchy, LIMA, and so much more with horses. Adele’s mission is to make this information accessible and achievable for the average horse owner out there through The Willing Equine. 
I really enjoyed our chat. We discuss all aspects of Operant Conditioning and the pros and cons as we see them. This is a very candid conversation and I sure got a lot off of my chest. It is cordial as well and it will be evident that while we have some differing views, we actually agree on way more than we disagree. Enjoy!
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