Adult Onset Horsemanship

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Will Friday is both a Masterson Method Practitioner and nutrition advisor for Legacy Equine. We met at Jim Masterson's Gathering last January and I thought he'd make a good guest.
We get into his past career in the outdoor industry and that he's only been doing the horse thing for about 15 years now. I think it's encouraging for a lot of you to see and listen to people who are successful in the horse business who aren't 7th generation of their family business. Will started Performance Equine Bodywork in California and has grown it into a successful business that helps a lot of people and horses.
Will has gone up through the levels of the Masterson Method to be an instructor who teaches courses. He's also gotten into equine nutrition in the last few years and added consulting to his business. We get into all of that and some good stories he's been through along the way.
Will was also instrumental in founding the veterans job training and life skills group, Equine Empowered Therapy. They use horses to teach and help veterans get jobs in the horse business.

Will's business and links:
https://www.performanceequinebodywork.com/
https://www.facebook.com/PerformanceEquineBodywork/
https://www.instagram.com/performanceequinebodywork/

Masterson Method Website and link to Bladder Meridian video:
https://mastersonmethod.com/
https://mastersonmethod.com/jim-teaches-the-bladder-meridian-technique-at-a-seminar/

Equine Empowered Therapy link:
https://www.equineempoweredtherapy.com/
https://www.facebook.com/EquineEmpoweredTherapy/
https://www.youtube.com/c/EquineEmpoweredTherapy
https://www.instagram.com/equineempoweredtherapy

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It's just me this time answering your questions. I hope that's enough, but I'm open to feedback here. If you want more Q&A's, let me know. If you just want interviews, let me know that too.
In this episode I touch on the topic of tongue sensitivity that I heard a bit fitter discuss on another podcast. I took exception to one particular thing she said and wanted to set the record straight on what I consider a pretty important thing to understand. Next, I talk about mechanical hackamores. What's the deal with those things? Then we talk about the notion that the wild natural horse is a problem and pain free animal that we should all aspire to have our horses be like, or not. Then I get onto an often asked question about how to know who to follow and learn from. What are the red and green flags of public teaching horsemen and horsewomen? Then another topic of the day comes up, as I offer my thoughts on what the average amateur horse owner can do about the state of the industry, allegations of abuse, and how to handle those difficult subjects if you're wanting to help steward this horse world as a non-professional. Lastly, I talk about some of the offerings that we have within my business, Dauphin Horsemanship, to help you on your journey. I'm fairly often hit with the statement, "I had no idea you did that" and so here's my attempt at letting all of you know all that we can do to help.

As I state in the podcast, if you are interested in helping out the podcast, me and my business, or the horse world in general, please share our content and recommend it to your peers and friends, unless one of those is really close to beating you just now. Then wait until the next year starts. We also have merch on our website now, so you can style around in a logo'd hoodie, long sleeve t-shirt, coffee mug, Daniel Dauphin underwear with my face on your bum, and on and on and on.

https://dauphinhorsemanship.com/
https://thebitcourse.com/
https://www.youtube.com/@DanielDauphin
https://www.facebook.com/ddauphin77
https://www.facebook.com/groups/795178083941287
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Dr. Shelley Appleton has a PhD in Human Learning, is a pharmacist, and horse trainer/clinician in Australia. She uses her understanding in how humans learn to show them better ways to get along with their horses.
This episode is destined to go down as one of the best ones we've done. We get deep into the ethics, some of today's issues in the industry, and better ways to approach the customer base for best results.
Dr. Shelley also has a podcast, along with her co-host Kathryn Christieson, where they bring in guests and ask them questions from their standard list of 20. This is where I first learned of Dr. Shelley and I recommend you check it out.

Website and Social Media Links:
https://www.calmwillingconfidenthorses.com.au/
https://www.facebook.com/calmwillingconfidenthorses
https://www.instagram.com/drshelleyappleton/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCm1u4drzm4PiVcimCVfmwUg

Canter Therapy Podcast:
https://www.calmwillingconfidenthorses.com.au/podcasts/tag/canter+therapy

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Mike and Christine Stokley own Big Creek Livestock near Lexington, Ky. They stand  the stallion Pepto Shine, have a small broodmare band, give lessons and clinics, and raise commercial cattle. I met them a couple of years ago and appreciated their knowledge and obvious experience during a cattle working mini-clinic and demo. The thing that struck me most about them, though, was how well they worked together and how they were very respectful of one another while co-teaching.
MIke has a background in rodeo and Christine has been learning horsemanship at the feet of the masters like Ray Hunt for most of her life. Their situation and abilities are unique and pretty cool. I hope you enjoy the conversation and get a few laughs out of it like I did,

https://bigcreeklivestock.org/
https://www.facebook.com/mikelstokley

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This is a long awaited episode! Leslie is someone that I truly get a kick out of. Her mind is very intelligent and complex. She's the author of one of the best horse books ever written, "True Horsemanship Through Feel", which she lovingly refers to as "Bill's Book". Leslie does have a benefit clinic coming up very soon, (late Sept and early Oct.) in Colorado. The host has been sick and  the clinic hasn't been promoted much at all, so feel free to get in touch with them and get signed up!

I have actually had 3 different interviews with Leslie over the years and each time has been plagued with tech issues. Please enjoy this latest interview that made it through editing in tact. There were some connection issues and I lost her mid sentence dozens of times, so this is heavily edited and I hope it comes across in a manner that does justice to Leslie's ideas.

https://lesliedesmond.com/
https://www.youtube.com/@LeslieDesmond
https://www.facebook.com/lesliedesmondfeelofahorse
https://www.facebook.com/thefeelofahorse
https://www.instagram.com/feelofahorse/

Here are links to the knot tying videos that we referrenced:
3 common knots (square knot, bowline knot, and Sheet Bend) 
https://youtu.be/pjMroAMEoXA?si=Imhdo5YVWiTNQAhX

Tying a High Line for Camping with Horses (Trucker's Hitch and Prusik Knot)
https://youtu.be/ZE5G5wbEZpM?si=lakUNU81-BIx7CLo

Fiador Knot and DIY Chain Curb
https://youtu.be/XQ6ZSVu1INA?si=LpNGmnPWM3OVfV6a

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If you have any questions about gaited horses, soring, what gaited horses are all about, why they gait, what the difference gaits are, etc. this one will be right up your alley. Carl and his wife Tammy own Just Gait and travel around teaching a better way to handle gaited horses. Carl was awarded the 2022 Humane Horseman of the Year.
Contrary to what many gaited trainers practice, they can be soft. There's no need for long shanked bits with bracing, or any of the things that the gaited horse world draws fire for constantly. These horses have brains and can be trained, and rather easily too.
I really enjoyed talking with Carl and I think you'll find that he's honest to a flaw. There's no topic that he shies away from and he's as genuine as they come.

https://www.carlbledsoehorsemanship.com/
https://www.youtube.com/@Carlbledsoehorsemanship
https://www.facebook.com/CarlBledsoeHorsemanship
https://www.instagram.com/just_gait/

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Patrick King is our first guest to come back and be on the podcast for a second time. He's a Classical Dressage clinician and trainer who also has a background in the more foundational type of horsemanship taught by one of his early mentors, Ray Hunt.
Patrick and I talk horses, but a big chunck of this episode goes into the recent controversy of Olympian and recently embattled Dressage Rider, Charlotte Dujardin. Having conversations about abuse and things that need to improve within our industry is very difficult to do. I play the devil's advocate in several places throughout this one and I hope that it's apparent what we are trying to get at. Yes, there are still things that are occuring that need to stop or be improved. Some of those things are a lot more obvious than others. Many common practices that people do routinely, believing that they are doing what's "best for the horse" could similarly be looked at as abuse, as many of us, and research backs that those practices certainly aren't what's "best for the horse". We take a look at some standards, and I'll flatly state that Patrick and I do not see completely eye to eye on all of this stuff.
This is a respectful conversation between two people who have decades in this industry and the big picture in mind. I think these types of conversations, even if they don't immediately lead to agreement, are incredibly important and exactly what we need to be doing if we expect to still have a horse industry 20 years from now.

https://pkhorsemanship.com/
https://www.academyforclassicalhorsemanship.com/inhand-mini-course
http://balanceinhand.com/
https://www.facebook.com/pkhorsemanshipdressage
https://www.youtube.com/user/PKColtStarting
https://www.instagram.com/patrickkinghorsemanship/

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I was privileged to present alongside Gillian Higgins at The Masterson Method International Gathering, in Gillian's home of the United Kingdom, this past April of '24. Her talk was passionate, funny, and well thought out. Her demonstration with horses in the arena was also insightful and the painting of the musculoskeletal system on the horse brings enlightenment and understanding in ways that nothing else could.
She had a couple of differnt horses that she was using in her demonstration. They were of different training levels and different body types and those differences really allowed her to get into things that matter and options for changing techniques that showed us why these exercises were being done and how they would affect these horses differently. I especially appreciated her encouragement of a horse having trouble going in a balanced way over ground polls to slow down to a snails pace and really think about foot placement and balance while negotiating the polls.
Gillian gets the biomechanics of a horse on a level and to a degree that very, very few people have. I hope our conversation does her knowledge of the horse's physiology justice and if you're into that world and want to nerd out, you could hardly have a better figure to learn from. You can find her at the following links:

Website: https://www.horsesinsideout.com/
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/horsesinsideout
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HorsesInsideOut/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/horsesinsideout_/

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Ep. 48 Lee McLean, Canadian Horsewoman, Author, and Sidesaddle Aficionado is Live. I feel like the content we've been producing on the Adult Onset Horsemanship Podcast has been something to be proud of. That being said, I think this is a pretty special episode that sets a new bar. You really need to listen to this one.

Lee has written two books, Horsewoman: Notes on Living Well and Riding Better, and Love & Rules: Life Lessons Learned with Horses. She's been an active horsewoman since she was a small child and has studied many disciplines extensively, including dressage and competing in many events while riding sidesaddle. Beyond all of that experience, she's also a stroke survivor and very candidly explores what it's like to age gracefully and deal with physical limitations and changes as you continue to grow  on your journey as a horseman. 

Her online presence is through her business name, Keystone Equine where she's amassed quite a following of people anxiously awaiting the next article she's written offering her insights and unique perspective. This really is a great episode and I'll be following Lee McLean from now on too.

You can find Lee at these links:
Website: https://www.keystoneequine.ca/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/livingwellridingbetter

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Gwynn Turnbull co-founded one of the most successful and cool events of our age, The Californios Ranch Roping & Stock Horse Contest. It ran for years and eventually she took lessons she'd learned in the film industry to produce, film, edit, and put out several very well liked videos, beginning with "Branding: Roping & Stock Handling Techniques in the Great Basin and Old California Traditions". If anyone is interested in that style of roping and stock handling, all of their videos are excellent and very well done.

She's also been a stuntwoman, a businesswoman, a poet, a screenwriter, clinician, and is now working on her own Therapeutic Riding Program.

I've respected her and her influence from afar for a long time and was very pleased to get to have this conversation. Gwynn's an interesting lady and definitely listens to her own drum. You can find her at the following links:

Website: https://www.thecalifornios.com/general.php
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100063530143813