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We all come across problems. Most of us don't do anything about it. Robert Eversole got into horses to meet a girl. He's an admitted trailer backing phobic. His anxiety about pulling up to a trailhead and having to park lead to a whole new career for him. If you are looking for resources on trail riding in the USA, you have found your guy.

From packing, to overnight sleep systems, to cooking, and even cinch making, we get into it and pick Robert's brain. I met him at Equifest of Kansas and his intelligence and quirkiness fits right. Robert has written 4 books, "The ABCs of Trail Riding and Camping", "Daily Wisdom from the Saddle", "It's a Cinch", and has his 4th coming out soon, dedicated to trailering and maintaining the trailer itself.

You can find Robert's website and Facebook at the following links:

https://www.trailmeister.com/

https://www.facebook.com/roberttrailmeister.eversole

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Liberty Cunningham is only 15 and already traveling the country as one of the most popular entertainment acts on the road. She does trick riding, roman riding, liberty work, bridleless riding, and most recently, aerial silks off of horseback. I've been at a couple of events with her and have been impressed with her ability and skills, but also her as a professional in the industry. We were both recently at an event where a wild winter storm made things very difficult and she handled the challenges better than a few of my adult peers...

She tells us how she started, all the things she does, her only accident that ended up in injury, how she trains, her horses and their training, and more.

So, listen to both the future and a person in a sector of this wide world of horses that we haven't talked about yet.

You can find Liberty (or her mom who serves as her agent) at the following links:

https://libertyslegend.com/

https://www.facebook.com/libertyslegend

https://www.instagram.com/libertys.legend/

https://www.tiktok.com/@libslegend

https://www.youtube.com/@libertyslegend

If you are interested in Daniel's clinics, newsletters, or our Rider Skills Video on Laying a Horse Down:

https://dauphinhorsemanship.com/

https://www.thebitcourse.com/

https://dauphinhorsemanship.com/horsemanship-skills/

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Tucker Daubs has crossed my news feed more than a few times of late. He's a gun guy and a cowboy in the high dessert country of Colorado. Sometimes those of us in an older generation need to see someone of a younger generation doing the kinds of things we did as kids to give us hope for the future.

Tucker is a thoughtful guy with an interesting perspective. He talks about the work that they do, the country and how it influences the work, and the horses. We do also talk about guns and knives and all the fun things he gets to carry and review. Horses, cows, gun and knives! You can't have more fun on a horse with your clothes on.

You can find Tucker at the following links:

https://fourpeakscattleco.com/

https://www.facebook.com/tucker.daubs

https://www.instagram.com/tuckerdaubs

https://www.youtube.com/@tuckerdaubs

https://www.tiktok.com/@tucker.daubs

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This guy has been coming across my reels a lot lately. He's just riding along with some catchy music and pointing up to some text while he briefly demonstrates it.  The advice is solid, concise, and the music is catchy. He's onto something for sure. Scott Purdum owns/operates Advantage Horsemanship and bills himself as a rider confidence coach and horse behaviorist. He seemed interesting. 

What you're going to hear is a couple of like minded guys having a genuinely fun conversation. Turns out we're both into whiskey and had some on hand. If you like candid and don't mind a bad word or serveral, you'll love this one.

You can find Scott at the following links:

https://www.advantagehorsemanship.com/

https://www.youtube.com/user/AdvantageHorseman

https://www.facebook.com/advantagehorsemanship

https://www.instagram.com/advantagehorsemanship/

https://x.com/scottpurdum

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Brent Graef is a well known and respected clinician and horseman. He and his wife, Kris were kind enough to have this conversation with me. I think it will be evident right away how genuine Brent is in what he does and says. We begin talking about one of his main gigs these days, halter starting weanlings and then talk about his clinics and philosophy.

For more than two decades, this soft spoken, kind-hearted, West Texas cowboy has been traveling the country helping horses and their humans gain a better understanding of each other. Brent is passionate about his quest for finding ways to give the horse a better deal. He is equally passionate about treating his students with that same respect. Brent has coached everybody from back yard horse lovers, to world class competitors, high level dressage riders, working ranch cowboys, and other horse professionals. Brent’s life-long journey handling horses began on the plains of West Texas, where he recalls doing his first cattle drive at age 5 and starting his first colt at age 11. Prior to teaching Horsemanship Clinics, Brent earned his living on horseback, starting colts and working the family ranch and feed lot. Some call it ‘natural horsemanship’. Brent simply refers to it as seeing things from the horse’s perspective. If we can work with the horse’s nature, using an understanding of how horses think, we can communicate in a way that develops a relationship of unity based on trust. He puts an emphasis on making the right thing obvious for the horse, instead of always making the wrong thing difficult. Brent gives clear, practical advice to elevate your skills to improve suppleness, balance, softness, and responsiveness. No fluff, gimmicks or tricks. Brent’s style of horsemanship has been influenced by the teachings of Tom & Bill Dorrance, Ray Hunt, and others. He lives near Amarillo, TX, with his wife, Kris.

You can find Brent and Kris at the following links:

https://www.brentgraef.com/

https://www.facebook.com/BrentGraefHorsemanship/

https://www.youtube.com/@brentgraefhorsemanship5385

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Sarah Louise Lilley is an equestrian, actor, and now she's a Clinical Emotional Freedom Technique practitioner. She says that confidence isn't a mindset- it's safety in the nervous system. 

She works with riders who have fears, trauma, anxiety, and other nervous system dysregulation problems to help them reach a place where they can function and be successful again. She has a unique back story from her career as an actor, being an equestrian living in New York City, and caring for her husband after his stroke.

Sorry for the echoing on my audio. 

You can find Sarah at her website linked below:

https://www.emotionalfreedomwithsarah.com/

https://www.instagram.com/sarahlouiselilley/

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Tamara Lee Barrett cut her teeth in the Hunter/Jumper world. A few years ago she could no longer stomach a lot of what she was seeing. Delving into Natural Horsemanship, Positive Reinforcement, and other modalities with the horse's mental wellbeing at the forefront, she started a new path. 

Today her training is centered around Connection, Movement, Posture, and Nervous System Regulation. Believing these elements should be woven throughout  the horse's environment, care, and training produces remarkable changes in behavior and physical development. 

She's an advocate for horse welfare and a fellow podcaster. You can catch her podcast, The Optimized Equine, on all platforms. I was even a guest of hers not too long ago. 

Find Tamara at the following links:

https://tamaraleebarrett.com/

https://www.facebook.com/tamara.barrett

https://www.instagram.com/tamaraleebarrett/

https://www.tiktok.com/@tamaraleebarrett

https://x.com/TamaraLBarrett

https://www.twitch.tv/tamleebarrett

https://www.youtube.com/@TamaraLeeBarrett

Her DIY snap covers

https://youtube.com/shorts/EapfKfxbQXo?si=53L9xTNGbhiy4Y58

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 It's time for our newest Q & A with Nicole Shoup. Nicole takes your questions from our facebook group, Bits, Spurs, and Good Sense, and brings them to the podcast. 

We talk about the term "sacking out". And then get into desensitizing, freeze and things to keep in mind. This leads to shut down horses and that rabbit hole. Next, what about horses that don't like to be caught? 

One of my favorite questions that I have ever recieved is in this one too. Jam, or jelly? There's a lot to ponder. Does said fruit have seeds that get caught in teeth? is the texture soothing, or annoying. Is the jelly prismatic and gorgeous to just look through? 

What's the most misunderstood piece of equipment I use regularly? 

A big can of worms opens up when Nicole asks me how many wrinkles should the bit be adjusted to. 

You can find Nicole at the following links:

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100091774544130

https://www.youtube.com/@NicoleShoupHorsemanship

https://www.tiktok.com/@nicoleshouphorsemanship

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Justine Staten is one of those people behind the scenes who has more to do with your ability to own a horse than you'd ever imagine. She's the Exexcutive Director of the Kansas Horse Council, as well as the Event Manager of Equifest. I can personally attest to her managerial abilities for a large event with a lot of moving parts and people. She's also the Chairperson for the Coalition of State Horse Councils and is on the Board of Trustees for the American Horse Council.

In this conversation, Justine tells us all about Equifest of Kansas, presented by the Kansas Horse Council. Equifest will take place Jan. 23-25, 2026. This year the event will be at the Stormont Vail Events Center, One Expocentre Dr., Topeka, KS 66612.

I'll be presenting along with Craig and Cole Cameron, Chris Cox, Chief Phillip Whiteman, Jr., Geno Middleton, Jerry Diaz, Nicolas Diaz, Staci Diaz, Marcelo Guzman, Robert Eversole, and Sally Batton.

Here are the links to learn more:

https://www.equifestofks.com/

https://www.facebook.com/StormontVailEventsCenter

Breyer Midwest and Other Special Guests:

https://www.equifestofks.com/specialguests

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It's that time of year when we all decide to get fit and invest in ben gay and ibuprofen. Let's get you some guidance for that this year. Ifa Simmonds is a fitness coach who specializes in the unique needs of equestrians. He owns and operates the Equestrian Fitness Academy to help riders grow their fitness to improve their riding. We met last year at Kansas Equifest as presenters and I took one of his classes. Ifa's the kind of guy that you naturally gravitate toward and his wholesome and genuine nature is evident right away. 

He was a personal trainer with an interest in horses and one particular client showed him a need within our industry that he jumped on. As riders, we need to stabilize, hold, balance, and cue in ways that are not typical of most athletes. As a rider himself, Ifa understands our world and has the vocabulary to convey what he's doing and how it affects the ride.

Continueing his education at the only university program in the world that specializes in this niche, Ifa is already out working with clients, and putting together customized programs.

You can find Ifa at the following links:

https://ifafit.com/

https://www.instagram.com/ifa.fit/

https://www.facebook.com/p/Equestrian-Fitness-Academy-100082976244941/