Andrew Lowther is back after a few weeks off to join Drew and Matt as they discuss whether Drew's Roos are 'pretenders', how much blame should be put on James Hird for the Bombers terrible form and who's closer to a flag - St Kilda, Carlton, Melbourne or Essendon.

Plus Drew Petrie shares his thoughts on the three hardest things about being an AFL footballer and we preview all the round 15 matches.