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  • Stuff About Money: When Our Emotions Make Investing Riskier

    What if trying to protect your money is actually putting your financial future at risk? Market volatility, political uncertainty, and the excitement surrounding artificial intelligence can make even experienced investors question their decisions. But while we spend a lot of time worrying about what the stock market might do next, we don't always consider how our own reactions can affect our long-term financial success.

    In this solo episode of the Stuff About Money podcast, financial advisor Erik Garcia, CFP®, ChFC®, BFA™, explores three things every investor should understand: how markets work, how investors feel, and how successful investors behave. Through historical market data and a real-life story about a husband and wife who took very different approaches to investing, Erik explains why avoiding volatility isn't the same as avoiding risk, how fear and FOMO can derail a financial plan, and why staying disciplined through uncertainty may be one of the most important investment decisions you make.

    Episode Highlights:

    • Since 1980, the stock market has averaged a 14% decline at some point each year, yet still finished positive roughly three out of four years. (02:28)

    • Erik explains why nobody knows what the stock market will do next, no matter how convincing the predictions sound. (05:09)

    • Erik breaks down the difference between volatility and risk from a financial planning perspective. (07:07)

    • The S&P 500 averaged about 10% over 100 years, but 26 of those years were negative, a reminder that the average return isn’t the actual experience. (09:03)

    • Erik shares how a client who moved her investments into cash didn’t eliminate risk but introduced a different kind of risk. (11:32)

    • Erik explains why being excited about AI and making a good investment in AI are two different things. (14:17)

    • Since 1938, the S&P 500 has posted a gain in the 12 months following a midterm election 95% of the time. (15:48)

    • Successful investors start with an actual financial plan that balances the risk they need to take against the risk they can tolerate. (17:10)

    • Charles Schwab data shows that missing just 10 of the best trading days over 20 years dropped annualized returns from about 11% to 6.6%. (19:09)

    • Erik shares why sometimes the best thing to do with your investments is nothing. (20:41)

    • Before making an investment change, Erik encourages listeners to ask whether something changed in their financial life or simply in the headlines. (23:09)

    • Key Quotes:

      • “ We can't eliminate emotions from investing, but we can learn to recognize when those emotions might be influencing our decision that are contrary to our goals.” - Erik Garcia, CFP®, ChFC®, BFA™

      • “The goal of investing isn’t necessarily to eliminate volatility, it’s to take the appropriate amount of risk to accomplish our financial goals.” - Erik Garcia, CFP®, ChFC®, BFA™

      • “Maybe being a successful investor isn’t so much about getting better at predicting what the market’s gonna do. Maybe it’s about getting better at understanding how we’re gonna respond when the market does something we didn’t expect.” - Erik Garcia, CFP®, ChFC®, BFA™

      • Resources Mentioned:

        • Erik Garcia, CFP®, BFA

        • Xavier Angel, CFP®, ChFC, CLTC

        • Plan Wisely Wealth Advisors 

        • 27 min
        • Ruben Hassid On Mastering AI Before It Masters You

          You don’t need to know how to build AI to get ahead with it. You need to know how to use it. IndieTech 2027 Featured Speaker Ruben Hassid sits down with Jason to talk about choosing the right model and how fast AI is getting cheaper, and as Co-Founder of GPC, he shares how companies actually get their teams on board.

          Key Topics:

          • Ruben’s mission to teach people how to use AI, not how to build it

          • The gym analogy: 20 minutes twice a week puts you ahead of 99% of people

          • One AI tool or many: why most people should pick one and get good at it

          • Open models, the Pareto line, and the trade-off between intelligence and cost

          • How team subscriptions under 150 seats make Claude a better deal than paying per token

          • AI getting 79 times cheaper every year, with those savings compounding

          • Jason’s experience with “You are a text file” and training AI on his writing style

          • GPC’s view that AI adoption is a people problem, not a technology problem

          • How a $700 million food company turned two data entry roles into two new salespeople

          • Why Ruben says AI is here to stay, no matter what the stock market does

          • Reach out to:

            • Ruben Hassid

            • Jason Cass

            • Visit Website:

              • GPC

              • IndieTech

              • Agency Intelligence

              • Produced by PodSquad.fm

                35 min
              • Stuff About Money: Building Wealth When You’re Just Starting Out

                What if you’re not behind financially? What if you’re just getting started? In this episode of Money in Real Life, Stuff About Money co-hosts Xavier Angel CFP®, ChFC®, CLTC®, and Erik Garcia, CFP®, BFA™, tackle the pressure young professionals feel to build wealth while paying down debt, starting careers, managing everyday expenses, and still trying to enjoy their lives.

                Xavier and Erik explore why building wealth isn’t about following someone else’s formula or trying to build in five years what may have taken others 30. They talk about comparison, creating financial breathing room, building an emergency reserve, and developing small financial habits that can grow along with your career and income. Because financial progress isn’t about hitting someone else’s benchmark. It’s about using your money to create more opportunity and more choices in your own life.

                Episode Highlights:

                • Xavier shares common listener questions about saving, building wealth, and managing student loan debt on an entry-level income. (02:57)

                • Xavier explains how defining wealth on personal terms, rather than by industry standards, leads to the next step of building breathing room. (08:19)

                • Erik explains how comparison culture and social media push young professionals to accumulate in five years what took their parents 30 years. (12:53)

                • Consumption smoothing is explored as a way to balance spending and saving when strong future income growth is likely. (19:15)

                • Erik shares an idea for parents to give young professionals a meaningful gift by seeding an emergency fund. (24:44)

                • Xavier reminds listeners that the destination of financial planning is opportunity and choices, not money. (29:37)

                • Key Quotes:

                  • “You could start with $25 or $50 or $150 a month. The importance right now is to start creating the habit, the habit of saving.” - Xavier Angel CFP®, ChFC®, CLTC®

                  • “Life is a series of decisions, and sometimes you have to make hard decisions to get to what you really want.” - Erik Garcia, CFP®, BFA™

                  • “The destination of financial planning is not money. The destination of financial planning is giving you opportunity and choices.” - Xavier Angel CFP®, ChFC®, CLTC®

                  • Resources Mentioned:

                    • Erik Garcia, CFP®, BFA

                    • Xavier Angel, CFP®, ChFC, CLTC

                    • Plan Wisely Wealth Advisors

                    • 34 min
                    • Rough Notes Front Cover, October 2026: Linda Fisher, Cardinal Insurance Group

                      In this episode of Front Cover: A Rough Notes Podcast on the Agency Intelligence Podcast Network, Jason Cass sits down with Linda Fisher, Founder of Cardinal Insurance Group, the agency featured on the October 2026 front cover of Rough Notes Magazine. 

                      Key Topics:

                      • Why taking care of the team comes before taking care of the client

                      • Moving from boss to leader and helping employees chase their own dreams

                      • Hiring lessons learned and why agencies should track the lifetime value of an employee

                      • How two books helped Linda step back and finally feel like an owner

                      • Setting expectations early so long-term client relationships can be handed to the team

                      • Why ego keeps owners from delegating and how to let team members learn

                      • How a separate Michigan insurance counselor license drives referrals from financial planners and attorneys

                      • A standout community giving idea: Halloween trick-or-treating at a local cancer center

                      • Doubling down on face-to-face service and a new office despite mergers and aggregators

                      • Picking your lane and focusing on your ideal client instead of chasing every squirrel

                      • Reach out to:

                        • Linda Fisher

                        • Jason Cass

                        • Visit Website:

                          • Cardinal Insurance Group

                          • Rough Notes Magazine

                          • Produced by PodSquad.fm

                            27 min
                          • Your Only Competitor Is the Person You Were About To Hire

                            What if your biggest competitor isn't the agency down the road, but your own habit of hiring? Jason Cass goes solo this episode to break down NexAgency's rollout of NexOne, why AMS platforms are becoming little more than a database, and how a lesson from Southwest Airlines reframes what real competition looks like for independent agents.

                            Key Topics:

                            • NexAgency rolled out NexOne on September 1st, growing from 10 demo agencies to 11 paying clients

                            • Reading an unsolicited client testimonial on NexOne's impact

                            • Why AMS platforms are becoming systems of record instead of operating systems

                            • Breaking down the real cost of point solutions versus an open system like Momentum

                            • A firsthand study showing most agency staff barely log into their AMS

                            • How NexOne integrates with HawkSoft, Momentum, HubSpot, Outlook, Teams, and more

                            • A virtual employee's testimonial about NexOne simplifying her work inside Momentum

                            • Introducing Scout, NexOne's built-in AI powered by Claude Opus 5 and Fable

                            • Using data and routing to cut payroll costs from 55% down toward 30% of revenue

                            • Herb Kelleher's Southwest Airlines lesson on identifying your agency's true competitor

                            • Reach out to:

                              • Jason Cass

                              • Visit Website:

                                • NexAgency

                                • Agency Intelligence

                                • Produced by PodSquad.fm

                                  28 min
                                • Rough Notes Front Cover Archives, July 2012: Randall Boss, Ottawa Kent Insurance Agency

                                  In this episode of Front Cover: A Rough Notes Podcast on the Agency Intelligence Podcast Network, pulling from the archives, Jason Cass sits down with Randall Boss, Certified Risk Manager and Certified Risk Architect at Ottawa Kent Insurance Agency (now part of HIGHSTREET Insurance Partners), the agency featured on the July 2012 cover of Rough Notes Magazine.

                                  Key Topics:

                                  • What landing the cover of Rough Notes in 2012 meant to Randall

                                  • The job site tragedy that moved Randall from policy pusher to risk management

                                  • Why following the risk management steps matters more than simply knowing them

                                  • Building Emerge Apps and oshalogs.com with his son to give clients OSHA tracking tools

                                  • Joining HIGHSTREET in 2019 and getting through five computer system changes

                                  • Why showing up every day and hands-on relationships still define the business

                                  • The $40,000 agency bill loss on a trucking account and the lesson it taught

                                  • Seeing AI as a thought partner and accelerator, not a replacement for people

                                  • How AI speeds software to market, but training and selling keep customers

                                  • Advice for newcomers and why preventing losses is where Randall hangs his hat

                                  • Reach out to:

                                    • Randall Boss

                                    • Jason Cass

                                    • Visit Website:

                                      • Ottawa Kent Insurance Agency

                                      • Rough Notes Magazine


                                      • Produced by PodSquad.fm


                                        23 min
                                      • Stuff About Money: Building Wealth When You Don’t Feel Wealthy

                                        What if the biggest thing keeping young adults from building wealth isn’t how much money they make, but believing wealth is even attainable? In the second episode of Money in Real Life, Xavier Angel, CFP®, and his daughter Caitlin tackle the question that naturally follows their first conversation: I know what I want my money to make possible, but how do I actually get there?

                                        Xavier and Caitlin talk through why building wealth can feel so far out of reach when rent, groceries, debt, and everyday life consume so much of a paycheck. They explore how understanding where your money is going, creating some financial breathing room, and starting small can begin to turn something that feels impossible into a plan. Because building wealth doesn’t start when you finally have enough money. It starts with what you decide to do with the money you have today.

                                        Episode Highlights:

                                        • Caitlin explains that her father's wealth-building presentation wasn't landing with young adults and that there were steps they needed first. (03:38)

                                        • Caitlin describes the wave of real questions from her age group after she posted a clip from their last episode, from Roth IRAs to buying a house. (06:20)

                                        • Xavier explains that building wealth isn't about already being wealthy, but about what you consistently do with the money you have. (10:10)

                                        • Xavier discusses"breathing room," the cash buffer that sits between you and your next unexpected expense. (13:10)

                                        • Xavier explains that building wealth starts with a decision to set money aside for your future self, not with hitting a dollar amount. (20:10)

                                        • Caitlin closes the episode with an action plan: define what wealth means to you, then map out where your money is actually going. (23:40)

                                        • Key Quotes:

                                          • "You build wealth because of what you consistently do with the money that you have, and that means that the starting point isn't how much money do I have, the starting point is actually what am I doing with the money that's coming through my hands?" - Xavier Angel, CFP®, ChFC, CLTC

                                          • "Number one, you have to define what wealth is for you. Now the next step is now that we know what wealth means for us, we need to know where our money is going, and we need to be able to map that out." - Caitlin Barnes

                                          • "You don't need to know everything about investing to start building wealth. You just need to understand the next step." - Xavier Angel, CFP®, ChFC, CLTC

                                          • Resources Mentioned:

                                            • Erik Garcia, CFP®, BFA

                                            • Xavier Angel, CFP®, ChFC, CLTC

                                            • Plan Wisely Wealth Advisors

                                            • 29 min
                                            • Carl Ziadé On What's Next For Gaya, From Proposals To Agentic Quoting

                                              Turning an hour-long insurance quote into a 20 minute process is exactly the kind of problem Gaya was built to solve. Jason Cass sits down with Carl Ziadé, Co-Founder of Gaya, to unpack how the platform is reshaping the way agents fill carrier portals, handle transportation submissions, and prepare for what's next in agentic quoting.

                                              Key Topics:

                                              • Gaya autofills carrier portals as a browser extension complement to raters

                                              • Gaya's growing carrier network now reaching 600 carriers and counting

                                              • Transportation and trucking submissions remain a major focus area for Gaya

                                              • The difference between RC1 and RC3 rate call pricing, broken down

                                              • Agencies are shifting away from traditional raters toward using Gaya directly

                                              • Gaya's integrations with HawkSoft, Momentum, Applied Epic, and AMS360

                                              • Building Gayiti, a fellowship program developing future engineering talent in Haiti

                                              • Gaya stays focused on product and support over sales and marketing

                                              • What's next for Gaya: a proposal tool, submission OS, and agentic book rolls

                                              • Gaya remains profitable and independent without taking on VC funding

                                              • Reach out to:

                                                • Carl Ziadé

                                                • Jason Cass

                                                • Visit Website:

                                                  • Gaya

                                                  • Agency Intelligence

                                                  • Produced by PodSquad.fm

                                                    35 min
                                                  • Insurance Shoptalk: The PAYGO Defense Strategy: How Agents Protect Their Workers’ Comp Book

                                                    In this episode of Insurance Shoptalk, Eric Stein sits down with Patrick Davis, CEO of InsurePay, to discuss how pay-as-you-go workers’ compensation is changing the way businesses pay premiums—and why insurance agents should understand it as both a client benefit and a retention tool. Patrick explains how pay-as-you-go connects workers’ compensation premiums directly to actual payroll, recalculating exposure with every payroll cycle instead of relying on annual estimates. The conversation covers how this approach can improve cash flow, reduce large audit surprises, lower the risk of cancellations for nonpayment, and simplify the workers’ comp experience for insureds. For insurance agents, carriers, MGAs, and business owners interested in workers’ compensation, payroll integration, premium billing, client retention, and reducing audit headaches, this episode provides a practical look at why pay-as-you-go is becoming an increasingly important option.

                                                    #InsuranceShopTalk #WorkersCompensation #PayAsYouGo #InsuranceAgency #CommercialInsurance #InsuranceTechnology #Insurtech #Payroll #InsuranceAgents #WorkersComp

                                                    52 min
                                                  • Insurance Shoptalk: The New Agency Workforce: AI Tools + Offshore Talent

                                                    In this episode of Insurance Shoptalk, Eric Stein chats with Norm Hudson, CEO of Staff Boom, to explore why insurance agencies need to build the right operational foundation before AI and automation can deliver meaningful results. Norm shares lessons from working with insurance agencies, MGAs, wholesalers, and other organizations that have attempted to automate processes only to discover that inconsistent data, workflows, and naming standards can prevent even good technology from succeeding. The conversation covers operational readiness, process documentation, data quality, change management, offshore support, and how AI can amplify the productivity of account managers and producers rather than simply replace employees. Eric and Norm also discuss practical AI applications including supplemental forms, policy checking, renewal preparation, proposals and quote comparisons, along with strategies for helping smaller agencies reduce administrative work and restore their focus on organic growth. If you're interested in AI, automation, offshore talent, operational efficiency, organic growth, or practical ways to help your insurance agency become more productive, this episode offers valuable insights into combining technology, people, and better processes.

                                                    #InsuranceShopTalk #ArtificialIntelligence #InsuranceTechnology #InsuranceAgency #InsuranceAutomation #Insurtech #OffshoreStaffing #AgencyOperations #AgencyGrowth #CommercialInsurance

                                                    49 min

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