In this episode, we get into whether media is a “dying business,” how The Atlantic is growing despite that pressure, and why AI is simultaneously the greatest tool and greatest threat to journalism. He breaks down the economics behind partnering with some AI companies while suing others, and what it will take for news organizations to survive when audiences increasingly turn to chatbots instead of websites.

We also discuss Nicholas’s new book, The Running Ground, a moving reflection on running, resilience, and the lessons that shape us far beyond the miles - https://a.co/d/gxLsda3