In this episode of the AI Guys, hosts Lee Dickson and Rich Swier dive into the technical and cultural shifts AI is bringing to software development. They move beyond the basic use cases of GitHub Copilot to discuss the concept of the "Agentic Layer"—training AI on your specific schema, blueprints, and user guides to create a true collaborator.

Rich explains why AI is already a superior debugger to humans and why the future of development requires a mindset shift from being the primary "doer" to being a "manager" of agents. They also touch on "vibe coding," the resistance of old-school developers, and why the ultimate goal of AI is to untether us from our screens.

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