Alex Tsakiris joins Curt Jaimungal to examine the nature of evil, objective morality, and post‑modernism, using Curt’s documentary Better Left Unsaid as a focal point. The conversation also explores Alex’s book “Why Evil Matters,” critiques rationalist and humanist ideologies, and delves into topics from consciousness to the Horseshoe Theory.

- 00:00:00 - Introduction
- 00:01:21 - Alex’s introduces Better Left Unsaid (trailer)
- 00:03:01 - Comments on Alex's book "Why Evil Matters"
- 00:04:56 - Curt's theoretical background
- 00:07:21 - Discussion on Donald Hoffman
- 00:13:30 - The problem in Academia
- 00:13:21 - Alex’s on "why are we here?"
- 00:15:21 - The problem with rationalists (quote from Hildegard De Bingen)
- 00:21:01 - Humanists ideologies... What do they believe?
- 00:22:01 - Is Curt a Christian?
- 00:23:21 - If values are a social construction, then what happens to morality?
- 00:25:21 - Consciousness is an illusion
- 00:28:21 - Near death experiences
- 00:34:27 - Alex on Dennett and Dawkins being part of a conspiracy
- 00:37:01 - "No, you didn't meet Jesus."
- 00:41:21 - Alex's breakdown of Curt's film Better Left Unsaid
- 00:42:29 - On utilitarianism
- 00:43:26 - Curt on his own "destructiveness"
- 00:46:21 - Who will you be judged by?
- 00:48:07 - Unbounded forgiveness
- 00:50:21 - What does "Psy-Ops" mean?
- 00:53:51 - Feminism was co-opted by the CIA (Gloria Steinem story)
- 00:57:21 - A bit more on Alex's Book "Why Evil Matters"
- 00:58:01 - Love vs Power (a Jungian perspective)
- 00:58:40 - Is the world supposed to be unintelligible? Should we not know all the answers?
- 01:02:59 - Why does this world exist at all?
- 01:03:47 - Kierkegaard on what it means to be a Christian
- 01:04:36 - Doubt and faith as essential in spirituality
- 01:06:58 - What is Better Left Unsaid's target audience?
- 01:08:41 - The Horseshoe Theory
- 01:12:44 - Curt's fasting -- why does he do it?
- 01:17:21 - Alex's / Curt's meditation -- what do they do? (Wim Hof)
- 01:23:14 - Where to find Better Left Unsaid?

RESOURCES:

- YouTube link: https://youtu.be/xrkQumFzwS0
- Alex Tsakiris is the host of Skeptiko (a podcast with guests such as Donald Hoffman, Michael Shermer, and others. It's can be found here): https://www.youtube.com/user/skeptiko
- The film Better Left Unsaid can be followed here: http://betterleftunsaidfilm.com
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