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Brad Onishi discusses with Eric Klinenberg the long-lasting social and political effects of the COVID-19 pandemic in the United States, framing it as a form of 'social long COVID.' The conversation highlights how the events of 2020 intensified distrust in government and deepened societal divisions, setting the stage for challenges in the 2024 elections. They also explore the symbolic role of face masks in these divisions and the impact of local mutual aid networks. Looking ahead, they assess how unresolved issues from 2020 continue to influence American civic life and political attitudes.

00:00 Introduction: The Lingering Effects of 2020

01:25 The Social Disease of Long COVID

02:04 Reflecting on the Pandemic's Impact

02:12 Interview with Eric Kleinberg

04:07 The Symbolism of Masks

07:49 America's Unique Pandemic Response

25:38 Mutual Aid Networks and Community Resilience

31:49 The Structural Isolation Crisis

36:25 Looking Ahead to the 2024 Election

43:31 Conclusion: The Future of American Democracy

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