Today we get to hear from Ammaar Reshi who is the Head of Design at ElevenLabs—the AI audio platform that has come up multiple times in past episodes.

So a big focus of this conversation is learning what it's like designing an AI-native product. We go deep into topics like:

• The backstory of Ammaar’s viral AI experiments
• Predictions for the future of voice as an interface
• What it’s like collaborating with an research team
• How he’s designing novel interaction patterns for AI
• What Ammaar looks for when hiring startup designers
• What it’s like designing at multiple hyper growth startups
• a lot more

• Thread of all Ammaar’s AI experiments (including the viral book and podcast app)
• Ammaar mentioned chatting with Nate Parrott from the Browser Company
• Ammaar mentions the Rabbit hardware product
• Ammaar mentions collaborating with his friend Pietro