Are you ready for a raw, rare, and vulnerable interview with John Crowder and Baxter Kruger? Probably not. Topics mentioned include a story about horse manure, Balaam’s ass, Napoleon Dynamite, dog diarrhea, Finding Nemo, greasy grace, narcissists, but mostly the Gospel.

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