In this archival episode of the Mind Shift Podcast, Aaron McManus and his father, Erwin McManus, sit down in Mexico City to reflect on trauma, mental health, faith, and the vision of Mosaic Church. Aaron opens with personal reflections on his years visiting Mexico City, his early 20s, and the origins of the podcast, born from his fear of speaking on stage alone. Together, he and Erwin revisit defining experiences—Erwin’s battle with stage four cancer, Aaron’s seasons of anxiety in New York, and the threats their family once faced—using them to highlight the importance of addressing trauma and mental health, especially in cultures and churches where it is often silenced. They discuss how faith and trauma intertwine, with Aaron sharing his struggles in reconciling hurt within the church, and Erwin stressing the need to confront pain honestly to create healthier spiritual environments. The conversation turns toward healing, personal growth, and emotional mastery, as Aaron reflects on his intentional pursuit of change and Erwin underscores the responsibility to design positive environments and replace painful memories with new ones. They also explore the balance between spiritual gifts and character, reminding listeners that maturity, integrity, and love matter more than talent. Finally, they share the unique story of Mosaic Church, founded in a nightclub in LA, with a vision to help people connect deeply with Jesus, reclaim their humanity, and create a community shaped by authenticity and compassion. The episode closes with Aaron and Erwin inviting listeners to join future gatherings, support Mosaic’s mission, and continue pursuing healing, growth, and deeper faith.

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