Dai and Ruth return for another podcast to discuss the issues of the moment - key among them being the retirement of Welsh legend Ashley Williams. Dai and Ruth discuss their favourite moments of the captain fantastic as well as say thank you to a modern great.

The issue of Gareth Bale is raised again, and for how much longer he still has a role to play for Wales, as well as how he is being perceived by the Welsh footballing public.

There is also a discussion of Wales U21 qualifying draw, plus some thoughts on how the U21 squad could and should be approached in the upcoming campaign. A lot to get stuck into!