Episode 69 of the Sports Illustrated Media podcast features two guests: Ato Boldon, the lead track and field analyst for the NBC Sports Group and a four-time Olympic medalist, and Rowdy Gaines, who has served as NBC’s lead Olympic swimming analyst since the 1992 Barcelona Games and was a three-time gold medalist at the 1984 Summer Games.

In this episode, Boldon (who appears first) talks about how he prepares to call track and field, his research methods, what is unique about Usain Bolt and where Bolt stands amid all sports figures, how Boldon approaches discussing doping on air, who might surprise viewers on the track in Rio, and much more.

Gaines discusses how he prepares to call swimming, his research methods, whether NBC is too patriotic on its Olympic coverage, where Michael Phelps stands amid all U.S. athletes, the dominance of Katie Ledecky, how he approaches discussing doping on air, the access NBC gets with top swimmers, why you should keep an eye on Australian swimmers and much more.

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