Auden Schendler is someone whose work we’ve admired for a long time. And In this conversation, Auden and Jonathan talk about human purpose, the importance of joy and living well; and Auden spells out the need for systemic change — and not just token actions — to actually address climate change.

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TOPICS & TIMES:

Auden’s Background (5:14)

Climate Change is Not Your Fault (17:29)

Terrible Beauty (27:38)

Reckoning with Climate Complicity (30:41)

Rediscovering Our Soul (32:21)

On the Idea that Climate Change is a Hoax (34:59)

Analogy: the Tobacco Industry (41:25)

Why Should We Recycle? (49:59)

Why Climate Change Shouldn’t Be Political (59:23)

Final Thoughts (1:03:42)

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