We talk with friend and co-worker Cyrus Johnson. He's a metal worker, a musician and a knight!

In this episode we discuss our hatreds! Maybe some are just extreme annoyances. You be the judge.

Bet you don't know why stop lights are green. Or why the Sun is green. Bet you're green.

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You wouldn't leave your child alone in a casino so why is it ok with gaming on their phone? Loot boxes, micro-transactions and the mob? We try to understand it all and discuss what is and isn't moral about spending money on what is gambling to children. Is all gaming becoming a slot machine?

Mark and I review podcasts and compare them to our own. We try to discover what makes a podcast great.

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We talk a bit about YouTuber Bjorn Andreas Bull-Hansen. While we try to get our opinions straight about what Bjorn, and we, have to say about personal security and big brother.

Who are the heroes that enlightened us. Who are the people that have taught us.

Free speech, racism and marketing. Is the message unity or separation?

Snake oil versus science: Is holistic healing real medicine? Should everything be 'cured' with a pill?

Reviewing the reviews - are they helpful? Can Zach tell the difference between an exploding green dust machine and a bedsheet?