Listener, darling! Disney has given us another live-action origin story of one of its iconic villains, and Baconsale is here to debate whether or not Cruella’s got what it takes. We’ll discuss the performances from the two Emmas, the stylized look of the film, the elaborate camera work, the ever-present narration, and the presumably expensive soundtrack. And don’t worry, even if you haven’t seen this movie yet, you can listen to our spoiler-free review at the beginning to determine if you should see this in theaters or shell out the cash to see it early on Disney Plus.

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