When the podium becomes a pulpit.

At a Pentagon press briefing this week, Secretary of War Pete Hegseth closed his remarks with a reading from the Book of Psalms and ended with "Amen." Press briefings don't usually end that way. RNS reporter Jack Jenkins joins Amanda Henderson to trace how we got here — from monthly worship services in the Pentagon auditorium to biblical scripture overlaid on weapons systems to a Secretary of War who told his troops the nation needed to be "on bended knee, recognizing the providence of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ."

When the podium becomes a pulpit, what happens to everything else? That question hasn't gotten easier.

00:00 — Introduction: When the Podium Becomes a Pulpit

01:27 — The Original Episode: Setting the Scene

02:41 — The Generals' Meeting and the Warrior Ethos

05:14 — Christianity in the Military: Civil Religion vs. Hegseth's Faith

06:57 — "SecWar's Worship Service": The Pentagon Prayer Series

07:59 — Bible Verses Over Fighter Jets: The Social Media Campaign

10:15 — Recruitment, Viral Content, and Capital-B Believers

12:50 — The Theological Question: Faith as Military Doctrine

15:17 — Pushback — and Why It's Hard to Find

17:14 — Closing: The Baptism of the Military

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