Cardon, Brittany and Tikla dive into the conversation around the controversial topic of childhood baptism in the LDS Church, specifically focusing on whether baptizing children at eight is developmentally appropriate or a form of indoctrination.Cardon Ellis opens the discussion by referencing recent criticisms from ex-Mormon therapists who claim that an eight-year-old is too young to make such a significant decision— equating certain baptismal teachings to "emotional abuse." These critiques are unpacked and often met with skepticism by the hosts, who challenge the way terms like “trauma” and “abuse” are applied in this context.