Be It Till You See It

Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell reflect on the inspiring conversation with values-driven changemaker Kate Galli. From standing up for animals to staying grounded in joy, this episode explores what it takes to lead with purpose. Learn how Kate uses her voice, energy, and optimism to drive meaningful change—while still staying connected to community, compassion, and self-care.

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In this episode you will learn about:

• Exercises for managing lower back pain in Pilates classes.
• Kate Galli’s journey into plant-based living and how it deepened her purpose.
• How she transitioned from being an “angry vegan” to a compassionate advocate.
• The ABC Method’s role in fostering mindset shifts and habit change.
• Why identifying core values is essential for aligning with your goals.

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• Ask Iliza Anything Podcast - https://beitpod.com/askiliza
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• Agency Mini - https://prfit.biz/mini
• OPC Summer Tour - https://opc.me/tour
• UK Mullet Tour - https://opc.me/uk
• Cambodia October 2025 Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.com
• Taylor Made at Pilates Anytime - https://www.pilatesanytime.com (use code: LLogan for a 30-day trial)
• Submit your questions - https://beitpod.com/questions
• Kate Galli's Website - strongbodygreenplanet.com
• Healthification Podcast - https://beitpod.com/healthification
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Episode Transcript:

Brad Crowell 0:00  

I was thinking, passion doesn't necessarily equal anger, even though it's associated with high energy. And then you just said the word compassion, which is more in line with what we want. Compassion still includes the word passion.

Lesley Logan 0:14  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 0:53  

Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I

 are going to dig into the empathetic convo I had with Kate Galli in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause this now and go back and listen or listen to this and go listen to that. It's kind of fun how the episodes work like that. If you're in the OPC app, you can easily see them and pick and choose. If you're in an Apple app, it kind of serves you in whatever order you're at so there you go. But it's quite fun. We'll get into her thing. I actually, because of her, have been putting tofu in my breakfast. So, yeah. 

Brad Crowell 1:29  

Oh, love that.

Lesley Logan 1:30  

This is a woman. This is the person who said. So today is June 26th 2025 and it's National Handshake Day. So finally, a day that's not a fucking nightmare. If you listened to last week, this should be more uplifting. National Handshake Day. This is they always start with the thing, and it drives me crazy. 

Brad Crowell 1:48  

Every year on this day. 

Lesley Logan 1:49  

On this day, it's just like, it's like chatting before it happened. National Handshake Day is celebrated on the last Thursday of June each year, falling on June 26th this year. And yep, yep, we covered that already, and we're glad that this common greeting is getting a place in the spotlight after all the year that it has been around. Not only is the handshake the most universally recognized form of greeting, but it also has come to mean different things in different cultures, which is why learning more about it will come in handy. Pun intended. Throughout history and across different cultural contexts, the handshake is in practice, an expression of peace or goodwill, and is almost like a common language that binds us together the world over. That's a way, that's a weird sentence. It's no wonder, then, that we want to make a big deal about this innocuous gesture. Sociologically, the handshake has come to be a symbol of things hidden below the surface, as you can tell a lot about the person the way they shake. 

Brad Crowell 2:45  

By the handshake. 

Lesley Logan 2:46  

Yes, perhaps for this reason, secret handshakes have also become popular, giving people a sense of belonging to a particular group. However you view the handshake, one has to admit that it deserves its own day. 

Brad Crowell 2:58  

It sure does. 

Lesley Logan 2:59  

Just owing the sheer frequency of its use in our daily lives.

Brad Crowell 3:02  

Yep, yep. Sans Covid, when no one did any handshakes ever it was the wave.

Lesley Logan 3:07  

Well, now, and now everyone does fist bumps or like people don't shake hands, like there's like the germaphobes will never shake hands. 

Brad Crowell 3:11  

Yeah, never again. 

Lesley Logan 3:13  

I will be honest. I almost rather go for a hug than a handshake, like, I just feel kind of weird about it, mostly with women, obviously. Second, I don't really. 

Brad Crowell 3:25  

Hi, friend, handshake.

Lesley Logan 3:26  

Hi friend. Also, I gotta be honest, I fucking hate a dead fish handshake. And I also do not give me the bunny hand, like I'm gonna kiss it, you know, some, some girls, yeah, like they give you their hand. They give you their hand like this, and then you're supposed to like, like, I don't know what I'm supposed to do with that. I'm supposed to say, What am I supposed to do? 

Brad Crowell 3:32  

She's supposed to take it underneath and kiss their hand.

Lesley Logan 3:50  

Yeah, but, but you're giving it to me. I'm not gonna kiss your hand. 

Brad Crowell 3:54  

What? Why not?

Lesley Logan 3:55  

No, no, not even yours. So I get but I was listening to Iliza Shlesinger's podcast, and she was talking about how, like, hand, she obviously, because she's got kids, and so she's always sick. She's like, comedy shows. She's meeting people, and so, like, they have rules about no hugging, no handshakes. And she's like, we used to shake hands to make sure the other person doesn't have a gun in it. So like. 

Brad Crowell 4:14  

We did? 

Lesley Logan 4:14  

That's what she said and she's like, such a historian.

Brad Crowell 4:17  

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. 

Lesley Logan 4:17  

You know. 

Brad Crowell 4:18  

I know what she's talking about. 

Lesley Logan 4:19  

Tell me. 

Brad Crowell 4:21  

In the Wild West, it was like the under the table situation. And also you specifically used you shook with the right hand only because I think the left hand was used to wipe your ass.

Lesley Logan 4:33  

Right because it also assumed that most people are right-handed, and then you use right hand for your gun. 

Brad Crowell 4:37  

Yeah, exactly. So I'm pretty sure there's some history, some historicity to that claim. 

Lesley Logan 4:44  

Yeah, yeah. 

Brad Crowell 4:47  

But anyway, luck us, definitely.

Lesley Logan 4:49  

Everyone's left hand was just covered in shit back then.

Brad Crowell 4:50  

I think that's not quite the same thing, but yeah.

Lesley Logan 4:58  

Oh my God, thank God we don't live back then, guys, it must have smelled like shit. Like, just whenever I think about whenever I, like, look at, like a castle situation, I'm like, this place reeked of shit. There's no way.

Brad Crowell 5:11  

Also probably like, ice, fricking cold. 

Lesley Logan 5:13  

Oh, well, that and when we were at the one castle in Scotland, like everyone, including kids, was given like, liquor every day because it helped kill the germs that were like in the water and the food or something like that. So and most people were like, just not enough water for the peasants. They just drank anyway. 

Brad Crowell 5:27  

The king had a shit hole in his throne. 

Lesley Logan 5:30  

Yes, he did have a shit hole in his throne. That's why they call it a throne. And in front of people, they would just get up and pick up their skirt and sit down on the toilet and take a pee or take a poop or whatever. But, you know, anyways, and then, besides the gangrene that was going on. Back to this. 

Brad Crowell 5:43  

Weird. 

Lesley Logan 5:45  

I will just say I would love to shake your hand, but you got to shake it back. And also don't squee. The men who squeeze really hard to make sure they I know that they're strong. It's like, well, now you're, what I know you are as a dick. That's what I know. Like, there's, it's a, there's a there's a talent to the fucking handshake.

Brad Crowell 6:01  

There's a lot you can know. All right, let's move on. So upcoming event. 

Lesley Logan 6:05  

We are doing a lot very, very soon. 

Brad Crowell 6:07  

All right, stick with us here right now. It is June 26th so in just a few weeks, July 9th, we're gonna be hosting an eLevate workout, a Q&A workshop. So if you don't know what eLevate is, no biggie, that is Lesley's mentorship program for Pilates teachers. Okay? It's a 9-month program. It's an amazing way for you to get to the method more across all the different pieces of equipment, and it will 100% change your confidence. I mean, like night and day, dramatic difference, and it's perfect if you're a new teacher or you've been teaching for a really long time. This is a great program. We've been doing it for years, and it's probably our favorite program run. We're going to be doing just a Q&A and hang so a workout and you could ask questions. July 9th.

Lesley Logan 6:49  

Alumni will be there and they'll answer your questions, and they're great. They do have the kindest of hearts like, that's why they come.

Brad Crowell 6:54  

So come, go to lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlist elevate waitlist.

Lesley Logan 6:59  

And that's live online, and then also live online on July 17th is Agency mini Mini.  

Brad Crowell 7:03  

That's right. 

Lesley Logan 7:03  

Agency Mini number 11. 

Brad Crowell 7:05  

Profitable Pilates is back. 

Lesley Logan 7:08  

And it's prfit.biz/mini and it is a three day business coaching workshop. There will be two events that have live times on them, but you can off, obviously, watch replays wherever you are. It's really, really great. Look, the summer is slow for most Pilates instructors, except for like, the family travels, but it's a perfect time to work on your business and get your questions answered so that the last half of the year can be what you want it to be to set you up for next year. So prfit.biz/mini to get on the waitlist, and that way you'll get the early bird pricing. And then in person, we're coming out.

Brad Crowell 7:42  

OPC Summer Tour kicks off July 25th in Phoenix. We're gonna do a massive rectangle. We're gonna do Phoenix to San Diego, all the way up the coast of Vancouver, that's right into Canada. Then we're gonna cut across through Calgary, and then back down to Vegas. From there, I don't know. I think it's like close to 5000 miles, I think.

Lesley Logan 8:01  

You are planning this Hon. I literally, I was, people are like, where is this at? I'm like, I don't even know. 

Brad Crowell 8:01  

We have 19 stops. 

Lesley Logan 8:01  

Oh, whoa, 19. 

Brad Crowell 8:01  

Yeah. 

Lesley Logan 8:02  

This is almost as big as winter tour. 

Brad Crowell 8:07  

It's, it is almost as big as winter tour.

Lesley Logan 8:14  

But a little shorter, thank goodness, because I don't think I could do two full month long tours, but this is good.

Brad Crowell 8:20  

This was a little over three weeks. So. 

Lesley Logan 8:23  

Yeah. 

Brad Crowell 8:23  

It's gonna be amazing. 

Lesley Logan 8:23  

And we're going to Canada. 

Brad Crowell 8:23  

We're going into Canada. I'm excited first time for us to tour up into Canada.

Lesley Logan 8:27  

Get the dogs paperwork ready to go into Canada and get them back in the States.

Brad Crowell 8:34  

Yep, yep. And then in September, we're getting on a plane.

Lesley Logan 8:38  

Oh, did we tell them where to go? opc.me/tour 

Brad Crowell 8:40  

Go to opc.me/tour opc.me/tour

Lesley Logan 8:45  

And then in September, we're getting on a plane. We're going to the UK. We have two cities in the UK. It's our Mullet Tour. And mullet means business in the front, Pilates in the back. And so we'll have a business workshop each day, and then Pilates workshops each day. Don't worry, there's more Pilates workshops and business workshops, but U.K., we're trying. We got to help you out.

Brad Crowell 9:04  

2/3 Pilates 1/3 biz don't worry that'll work.

Lesley Logan 9:08  

And there's a workout so you can get a 2-day pass at Leeds. There's only three spots left at the time we're recording this. Don't know what that means when it drops in your ears. 

Brad Crowell 9:15  

That's true. 

Lesley Logan 9:16  

And then Essex also space super limited. But we did open up day passes so you can buy a Tuesday-only pass or Wednesday-only pass. 

Brad Crowell 9:22  

Yeah, or you can get both. 

Lesley Logan 9:23  

Or you can get both, you'll save if you buy both. So opc.me/uk

Brad Crowell 9:28  

opc.me/uk and then finally in

Lesley Logan 9:31  

We're going to Cambodia in October.

Brad Crowell 9:32  

October we're heading back across the world, and we want you to come join us. It is obviously our favorite place to be. 

Lesley Logan 9:39  

We're gonna go to Scotland, come home, go to Chicago, go to Cambodia. 

Brad Crowell 9:46  

Oh, yeah, we're going to P.O.T in Chicago. 

Lesley Logan 9:46  

Yeah, we are, we are. We'll tell them about that later. They haven't announced that yet, so until they announced that, we can't announce it. Cat's out the bag.

Brad Crowell 9:53  

Oops, anyway, yeah, come with us. Go to crowsnestretreats.com crowsnestretreats.com to come hang. I mean, I've already been on a bunch of conversations with people talking about it. I know people are worried about travel right now, international travel, especially with like, the perception of Americans around the world due to our government making stupid decisions. 

Lesley Logan 10:17  

We actually have been treated very well. Most people are worried for us. So they're not, like, they're they're mostly worried, and also, like, we've already gone there and come back during this administration and have had not any problems, so we don't anticipate any problems. So we also did it during March of 2020, and were, the threat of getting in the country, so it was real, and we walked right in.

Brad Crowell 10:38  

Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, the conversations we've been having with people haven't been that. The conversations have been more about like, are, you know, is it going to be problems for Americans traveling? Honestly, I still think it just comes down to you being cool or being an asshole. If you're an asshole, you're gonna have problems. 

Lesley Logan 10:56  

But also, if you're an asshole, you're not listening to this podcast. 

Brad Crowell 10:58  

Yeah, that's probably true. 

Lesley Logan 10:59  

Pretty true. 

Brad Crowell 11:00  

Send this to an asshole. Send this episode.

Lesley Logan 11:00  

I don't, don't. I was actually even worried, personally, was worried about our Canada tour stops. I thought, will they sell? We have to spend so much money on lawyers to make sure we can do everything appropriately. And

Brad Crowell 11:07  

We're almost already sold out in Vancouver.

Lesley Logan 11:17  

Vancouver is almost sold out. So like, I will say, I actually think most people understand that we, the majority of us, are not happy with how things are going, and we are not these people. So just, just know you'll be.

Brad Crowell 11:32  

Yeah, but it's also like the experiences that we've had, during tumultuous times, have not prohibited us from traveling, right? So, you know, we would encourage you to, you know, get on a call with me if you have any questions about it, worried about it, come join us. Cambodia is going to be epic trust me. 

Lesley Logan 11:53  

Oh, yeah, it's so beautiful. And also, when we're there, because we've gone so many times during administrations like this. It is like the most you don't, you're so relaxed, you don't really even you don't the news can't even really get to you, because even if it does, you hear chickens, and then you hear the birds and the parrots, and you're sweating and the motos, and you're like, I'm so far from that, like that there's nothing I can do about that while I'm here. 

Brad Crowell 12:17  

It's called a retreat for a reason. 

Lesley Logan 12:21  

It's really helpful. It's really helpful for your heart. I mean, I always I'm so relaxed. 

Brad Crowell 12:28  

I'm already getting warm fuzzy feeling. 

Lesley Logan 12:30  

I know. So come, crownestretreats.com to snag your spot.

Brad Crowell 12:34  

All right. And we did have an audience question this week. Thank you for sending this in. We had, I don't know how to say this, um, ayeletregev6703 ayeletregev6703 on YouTube asks, hi, during a class. 

Lesley Logan 12:50  

Hi.

Brad Crowell 12:51  

Hi, during a class, what kind of exercise would you offer to someone who can't do the teaser due to lower back issues? Well, great question. Thank you for asking. 

Lesley Logan 13:01  

Yeah. So first of all, if, first of all, the way I teach Pilates is that every exercise is going to be accessible to people at some point when they're ready. So my teacher, Jay Grimes, always said, you want to bring people up to an exercise, don't bring exercise down to a body, right? So if someone has lower back issues and they can't do the teaser, I actually wouldn't modify the teaser necessarily for them. I would have them repeat an exercise that was safe for their back, that would build up their strength, their stamina and their connections. 

Brad Crowell 13:24  

They should just quit. 

Lesley Logan 13:30  

Shut up, and that way, first of all, they can keep moving. And then second, it would be figuring out, like, is this lower back issue permanent? Is this like a chronic issue? They're never it's never going to go away. Is it what it is? 

Brad Crowell 13:50  

Surgery kind of thing. 

Lesley Logan 13:46  

And so then it's like, should they, should they even be doing flexion at all? Should they, can they do teaser with their feet on the wall? Should they just always do something else, or is it just that they are not, they're of a tight back and just not ready for it, yet? Because then we can roll like a ball into teaser, roll like a ball in a teaser, right? And that's a great way of doing it. So what I think is really important is there isn't one way to answer this question, because I don't know who we're talking about.

Brad Crowell 14:09  

It's true. So that's a little tough, but I do think you know the whole idea, as a non-Pilates teacher here, the whole idea of Pilates is that it's a system, right? And what I know from sitting on the sidelines and watching the eLevators come through our house, literally, our house, and work things out, is that that if they're if they can't do teaser, because they're just not there yet, that's okay. It's totally okay. They don't need to do teaser, right? It's not like, you know, teaser, to me, is like handstand in yoga, you know, it's not necessarily like changing your world. It's part of a system. It's one of the poses that you yeah, sure you want to get to it eventually. But if you, you know, if you can't do teaser, it doesn't mean you can't do Pilates, right? So, you know, if you take that approach to it, you can, you as a teacher, can help them get to that pose over time, and you can help them get to that if that's their goal, that's fine, you know. But there might be other things that you want to take them to, first because of their lower back issues,

Lesley Logan 15:18  

Yeah. And I, first of all, well said, babe. So many people are like, Go, Brad, but, but I think, like, you know, here's the thing, clients come to a class and you specifically about a class. And so everyone thinks that, oh, everyone in the class is doing the exact same thing. Like I was talking to someone in eLevate, they're like, oh, but I need everyone to, like, do it at the same time, because it looks really good. And I was like, uhm.

Brad Crowell 15:42  

We could skip all that. 

Lesley Logan 15:43  

We don't care what it looks like as a beauty, a form of beauty, I care, are they connected? 

Brad Crowell 15:48  

Right. We're not synchronized swimming here. 

Lesley Logan 15:50  

Yeah. And so if that's the way you're teaching your classes, some people will like that. But to be completely honest, a lot of people are not going to actually get the benefits of Pilates in that fashion, in that form. So it's really important. 

Brad Crowell 16:02  

The 1980s are calling. They want their synchronized workouts back.

Lesley Logan 16:05  

Yeah, so what I, so I would, this is how I always started every class, not every exercise is going to be for you. So when in doubt, leave it out. It's actually brave and courageous to replace what you can't do yet with something that you can, something that you did that was challenging, right? And if you need specific assistance with an exercise, we can talk about it. We can give options at the end of class that you can use. And so with this person with lower back issues, maybe they need to take a private or stay after class one day to figure out what is their teaser. So maybe it is a modified teaser, but maybe it's actually double straight leg stretch, or maybe it's that they do swimming instead, right? What is it that they do? And then that way they are empowered to be autonomous and independent. And I promise you, it is going you will survive people doing different things at the same time, because they're gonna feel so good, and they're gonna come and go. That was the best class, and it's gonna make you love what you're doing, because now you're actually affecting real change in them, and not just like, well, let's just bend their knees and now they can do it, right? Like, that's, like, that's a Rachel Taylor Siegel, highly recommend everybody watches Taylor Made on Pilates Anytime you can use LLogan for a 30-day trial. It's in the Legacy Project. And what I learned from Rachel Taylor Siegel, she said, let's talk about modifications. She said modifications are like borrowing money from the bank. Some loans have higher interest rates than other loans, right? So if you get an SBA loan, you're looking at a couple percent, like real low, and so it's really easy to pay that loan off over time. In fact, that loan allows your business to grow, and so that kind of a loan is like going not just accelerate you, but just strengthen your business, gonna allow you to create a really good foundation, right? Versus a payday loan, those like 40% interest loans, or 30% interest loans, or the credit cards, the ones we get in the mail with our amazing credit score. It's like, why would I sign up for this 35% credit card? Are you crazy?

Brad Crowell 18:09  

Yeah, I did get one for for 29.99 Yeah, or 30. It was like, it was like shocking. 

Lesley Logan 18:19  

That's it when I was in college and college when I had no credit. 

Brad Crowell 18:22  

I never saw one that high ever. 

Lesley Logan 18:22  

I guess that's true. I think it was like 18%. 

Brad Crowell 18:23  

Yeah, they were like, 20% everyone's like, oh my God, they're stealing from you. Now they're, now they're like, 30 and it's normal. I'm like, holy cow, bananas. 

Lesley Logan 18:30  

Yeah, you'll know, yes, so, but that, so just take that bananas and then think about that as a modification for an exercise. So now we're stealing from them. Now we're actually not providing them with the ability to ever not need that modification. In fact, they will have to keep just like those payday loans.

Brad Crowell 18:45  

Ever not, never, not. So they will always need the modification. 

Lesley Logan 18:45  

Yeah, just like, well, if you let me finish my sentence, it was going to be just like when you do the payday loans once, what I've heard, what I've understood, is why they're so bad is that once you need them, you automatically need the next one and the next one, because now you're like, stuck, you're stuck and you're in debt. So my dear, thank you for this question. I hope it gave you something to think about. If you're an OPC member and you have a lower back issue, you can actually film yourself doing an exercise. You, actually, it could be any issue, but you can film yourself doing an exercise, and I can give you feedback on it. We don't answer client questions in OPC because it's all about you. So there's that. But if you guys have questions, go to beitpod.com/questions to send in your win or your questions, we'll answer them here, and we'll shout your wins out on Friday. beitpod.com/questions. 

Brad Crowell 19:30  

Stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into that convo with Kate Galli. 

Brad Crowell 19:38  

Okay, let's talk about Kate Galli. Kate is a health coach, author and podcast host who's passionate, who is passionate about helping vegans and plant-based curious people live the with strength, confidence and joy. After years of working in both fitness and in the mindset space, Kate now helps others create meaningful lifestyle changes by aligning their health goals with their values. She's the creator of Strong Body, Green Planet, and host of the Healthification Podcast, where she shares strategies for powerful, compassionate living through her signature ABC method. Kate focuses on building habits that not only feel good, but also do good for the mind, for the body and for the planet.

Lesley Logan 20:24  

Okay, I thought she was so cool, because, first of all, a lot of what she is talking about with her journey of being a vegan, and then where she's at now is a lot of be it till you see it in like being vegan-curious or plant-based curious. I think a lot of us could lend ourselves to at least, if you're not going to go full vegan considering, like, what changes you can make for the planet. I think we all have to be considerate of that. You'll also be considerate of your body and what you're allergic to and all those things. So don't at me. I can't eat that because I got this allergy. I see you okay. In fact, Kate sees you because she's not an angry vegan anymore.

Brad Crowell 20:59  

Yeah, that's the thing that was like, I, actually, I'm not gonna lie, like I was listening to it. I was like, okay, you know, I'm in and then she shared her story, and I was like, wow, you know. And if you, if you, if you haven't gone back and listened to the episode, it is gut-wrenching and powerful. And she says it quickly, relatively quickly, but it's worth a listen. So go back and take a listen to Kate's story. 

Lesley Logan 21:25  

I think the cadence of this episode coming out after Stephanie O'Dea's slow living episode is really important, because there's a couple things like, that, I'm like, I'm thinking about with Kate that kind of can go back to Stephanie. First of all, you cannot shame or judge yourself into a goal, right? And so and and, and. 

Brad Crowell 21:46  

Nor can you shame others into a goal.

Lesley Logan 21:49  

Correct. And Kate said, we get this drive and this focus and this purpose, we just go and go and go. And she's like, it's effective until it isn't. And that's the same thing that, like Stephanie was saying, like, we we, like, want to go, like, so fast, but like, things will happen in time. And so she transformed in this, like, angry vegan. And then she became more compassionate, because she realized her approach was actually not effective in convincing anyone. In fact. 

Brad Crowell 22:13  

Also, she was like, fried emotionally, like, so fried. She was like, I can't, I can't even be the angry, you know, like, person that I was anymore. I just can't do it.

Lesley Logan 22:24  

Yeah, I think, like, how many of us have been, like, so passionate about something that we get angry? I know I do. I know I do not talk politics with some of my family members because I get so angry that they cannot see the perspective that I see it from. I just can't I, like, literally, I'm just like, I'm losing, I'm missing out on that part of my life, because I need to figure this out for myself, because I cannot be compassionate in this moment. But you know what? I'm giving myself permission, that's okay. But I think it's like, she, she really, where she was able to change to is being a lot more compassionate, and then that allowed her to be more helpful in helping other people see ways that they can become vegan, or ways that they can make things a little bit more plant-based, or be or just change the way that they want to work out so that they're now it's almost like, it's like, you can't, you don't get, you can't get bunny like, bees about honey, like that kind of a thing? 

Brad Crowell 23:22  

Yeah, you did mention that on the interview, and then you apologized for all the vegans out there who aren't necessarily in a honey. 

Lesley Logan 23:29  

I know. 

Brad Crowell 23:30  

I had a good laugh about that. 

Lesley Logan 23:32  

Well, some are not okay with honey.

Brad Crowell 23:35  

Yes, no, it's you're, you're not wrong, but I just thought it was a really funny analogy in the moment. But you're right. You know, you get more bees with honey than you do, you know, without. So, you know, it's the kind of like the kill them with kindness, kind of a yeah approach. And I think.

Lesley Logan 23:51  

I really hated that growing up, my mom always, like, kill with kindness. And I'm like, that's not working.

Brad Crowell 23:59  

But, but, you know, she talked about the frustration with the relationship with her father, and how, like she was able to learn from her mom, you know, and how her mom's approach shifted her own approach, you know, out and about in the world.

Lesley Logan 24:22  

Yeah. And I also want to say, because she said, whatever we care about yelling at people about how wrong they are is never going to get them to want to join us. I just want you to know that, like I still believe you should protest, because it's not about convincing the person driving by. It's about convincing the politicians we're protesting again. So I just want to say protests matter, but. 

Brad Crowell 24:39  

Yeah, they do. 

Lesley Logan 24:40  

But if your neighbor isn't seeing how the way that they're voting or the way that they're eating or the way that they're you know, mowing their lawn in the middle of the night is affecting things that you care about. Yelling at them isn't going to get them to stop. You do have to figure out. You have to understand a little bit more about why they think the way they think, or why they do the way they do, so you can actually have a compassionate conversation that allows them to see how what you're trying to offer them is going to help the same goal that they have.

Brad Crowell 25:08  

That's actually really interesting. And I wonder about the etymology of these words here now, because I was thinking passion doesn't necessarily equal anger, even though it's associated with with high energy. And then you just said the word compassion, which is more in line with what we want. Compassion still includes the word passion. So, you know. 

Lesley Logan 25:29  

Do you ever want to take, like, an etymology class? I want to take a handwriting class. They don't teach kids anymore, but I want to learn, and I want to take an etymology class.

Brad Crowell 25:40  

Well, so, but you know, like you can still be passionate without being angry. You can be compassionate and have passion, you know. So I think, you know, shifting her approach has sounds to me like a it's made her more effective, and it sounds like just a happier person.

Lesley Logan 26:01  

Yeah, she she is so lovely. 

Brad Crowell 26:04  

So, good for her. 

Lesley Logan 26:04  

And I will say, like, ever since I've talked with her, I've been really more thoughtful about, what are we eating? Do we need that? How? How do I get 150 grams of protein a day if I'm not having chicken? What does that look like? You know. 

Brad Crowell 26:18  

I love that you were digging into how to get protein. You were talking about on the episode of like. 

Lesley Logan 26:24  

Yeah, I asked her. I was like, I need. 

Brad Crowell 26:26  

Like, what do I do? What's a side? What's a dessert? What's it? What? How do we do this? You know? And she, she did make the parallel between, you know, like, let's say there's like, a muscle dude at the gym, and if he decides to go plant-based, switching from like, steaks to, you know, she said he's got to be eating something comparable in, you know, that's going to fill him up, or he will just lose weight. You know, there's no question about that, but there are ways to do it, and that's what kind of, that's when the conversation really went down that rabit hole in a good way. 

Lesley Logan 26:26  

Many, many bodybuilders who are plant-based like. 

Brad Crowell 26:26  

I mean, Eddie. Our friend Eddie is like, six-three and was, like, a football player in the, you know, he's.

Lesley Logan 26:37  

Yeah, I think he's like a be it till you see it. You have to, like. 

Brad Crowell 27:09  

In the military, guy's a beast. You know, he was a vegan for, I don't know, I think seven or eight years, like, solid. But he would eat like, half a freaking lasagna a night, you know,

Lesley Logan 27:20  

Right. Like, you have to get calories Well, and that's all kinds of calories, but I think it's just being intentional. And I think what I again, why I wanted to have her on, is it's a be it till you see it approach, like she has those baby steps, which allows you to, kind of, like, figure it out.

Brad Crowell 27:35  

Well, when she was talking about the ABC method, I thought it was pretty clever. She said, she, you know, when she was going through this personal transformation, she came up with this method that helped her prioritize her happiness and find a more effective way to pursue her purpose, more effective meaning people would listen. And she said, moving from angry, which was ineffective, to compassionate, which is effective. Her method is called the ABC method, and so A stands for awareness, B stands for brainstorm, and C stands for commitment. So she's, awareness, she's recognizing the negative trajectory of continuing down her current path. B, she's brainstorming, identifying ways to stop the habits that she used to do. And specifically she was talking about posting on Instagram, like posting angry stories, setting herself up to be attacked, even though she believes very strong, strongly in these things, you know. But and then she shifted, and she said, hmm, I wonder if, instead of sharing all the negative stories, I could share positive stories and see how that would have an impact. Right? So she began sharing happy stories and making vegan recipes, sharing vegan recipes that actually taste amazing to you know, like present an option that, instead of creating shame and like frustration, trying to guilt people into, you know, whatever, instead it's like, hey, did you know that it can actually be amazing? Did you know that it can taste awesome? You know? And so she started sharing recipes, and she said her third step is commitment, making a public commitment to the new approach, you know, drawing a line in the sand and saying, hey, I'm making this decision. So good for her. I love that ABC method. You know, I thought that was I thought it was clever. I thought it was a great way to, like, actually create a line in the sand of your life and be like, I've made this decision to change this thing. 

Lesley Logan 29:41  

I think it can be used for so many things. Her ABC method, it's so you can just, it's just great. And it's also part of, like, how we learn, just, it's from the mindset training that I did it's very aligned with, like, how people's mindsets can be changed. Loved it. Loved it all.

Brad Crowell 29:57  

Awesome. Well, stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into those Be It Action Items. 

Brad Crowell 30:03  

Welcome back. We're gonna get into these Be It Action Items with Kate Galli. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Kate? She said, if you want to make it easy to incorporate plant-based proteins into your meals, she shares she's got a 5s strategy, okay? She describes it as a way of setting it into your meals. Here are the five S's, star, scatter over, stir through, side and source. What does this mean? Star means plant-based protein is the main component of the meal, meaning lentils in a curry, or marinated tofu. So you've got your star ingredient, effectively, that's what the star means. Scattering over by adding plant-based protein sources such as hemp seeds or pumpkin seeds over your regular meal. So once you've got your meal, you can put something on top of it, and that also adds more protein. You can stir it through mixing plant-based protein, plant-based protein powder, say that five times fast, into a meal or a drink. I mean, this is pretty straightforward. Think about like a smoothie in the morning or soup or cereal. 

Lesley Logan 31:13  

I even, even I put protein in my coffee because I'm trying to get so much protein in, I put it in my coffee with my creatine and my fiber, guys, because, you know, like, that's just a hard thing to get to.

Brad Crowell 31:26  

And the collagen.

Lesley Logan 31:27  

Yeah, like, I put it all in there, and it's in this my tasty coffee. And it's actually gotten me to stop going out to get coffee, because they won't have what I need to put in it. And I got to put all this in it. So.

Brad Crowell 31:33  

That's true. You could also have it as a side, having a portion of a plant-based protein on your side, such as edamame or crispy chickpeas. And I know you're a huge fan of crispy chickpeas. We literally got some after this interview, ourselves. 

Lesley Logan 31:50  

I'm obsessed with crispy chick. I wonder how we can make it ourselves. I'm sure we could just do an air fryer. It is, guys, 50 chickpeas is like 10 grams of protein or something like that. Maybe it's only six, but I think it's 10. At any rate, it's like, two handfuls and it you're fuller than if you had snacked on some chips, right? And I got.

Brad Crowell 32:08  

It's also not like, it's not bad for you, like, you know, deep fried chips or something. 

Lesley Logan 32:12  

And it's good for the environment. I can't have potatoes, so I have been, I like, have been like, over here, what? I just want to snack on a little munchie, and I can have those. 

Brad Crowell 32:22  

Crispy chickpeas, all right. And then source. Finally, the last S is source, using sauces made with protein-rich ingredients, which could include, like self silken tofu, or you could put edamame inside the guacamole. 

Lesley Logan 32:36  

Yes, where is this town that we used to get that guacamole that had edamame? 

Brad Crowell 32:40  

Oh, it was, it was they have one. 

Lesley Logan 32:43  

Oh, True Food. 

Brad Crowell 32:44  

True Food. 

Lesley Logan 32:44  

True Food. Yeah, and then they mess with those chips. So annoying. But the edamame with the. with the guac with edamame is there, and it's great.

Brad Crowell 32:54  

Pretty tasty. I dig it. But yeah, what about you? 

Lesley Logan 32:56  

Okay, she said, if you haven't, if you haven't figured out what your personal values are, you need to because you gotta elicit them. She said, your values are the emotional states you're naturally drawn to, like love, freedom, truth or integrity. And so when you are planning your day or making decisions like, your values are these filters for those things and you need to align them with your most important goal or vision, and so even more importantly, align them with your daily actions. We actually talk about values a lot in Agency. Talk about it a lot in our business, coaching retreats and things like that. And so I love this. In fact, I just led a values webinar for Agency members. It'll be in the curriculum so you can figure out what are your values? Because it's like, well, what are, what are, how do you choose them? Like, I have to, you know, have to have names for it. What is it? So you can, Agency members can check that out. But I love this Be It Action Item. Elicit your own personal values if you haven't yet. Kate Galli.

Brad Crowell 33:49  

You know, it's funny. I thought it was interesting to compare this to a business, right? We talk about this for business owners, you got to know your mission, vision, values. I never thought about it once about my personal values. 

Lesley Logan 34:04  

What? 

Brad Crowell 34:05  

Yeah. 

Lesley Logan 34:06  

Brad? Really? 

Brad Crowell 34:08  

Well, in the same way I've never been like, here are my five values that matter the most to Brad. You know, I always think about it through the lens of my company first. So I thought it was interesting. 

Lesley Logan 34:20  

We gotta do that. You gotta, you gotta do the exercise.

Brad Crowell 34:24  

We gotta do the exercise, y'all, I gotta sprinkle in some values. I'm gonna, I'm sourcing them now, but I'm gonna sprinkle them in, scattering them over.

Lesley Logan 34:31  

It won't be that complicated, because, I mean, we have different values, but my values were how the business's values came about. They were like, they're not exactly the same, but it's like another word for it that would be more business-like than what my personal values are, but I think that you get to, you get to do the exercise. Keep us posted on your Be It Action Item, babe.

Brad Crowell 34:54  

Sounds like a plan. 

Lesley Logan 34:54  

I'm Lesley Logan. 

Brad Crowell 34:54  

And I'm Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 34:54  

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Brad Crowell 35:15  

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Lesley Logan 35:16  

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Brad Crowell 35:16  

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Lesley Logan 35:19  

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Brad Crowell 35:36  

And every time you share the episodes, it matters every time, every time. We're so grateful. So thanks for doing all that. 

Lesley Logan 35:42  

Yeah, all right, until next time, Be It Till You See It. 

Brad Crowell 35:44  

Bye for now. 

Lesley Logan 35:46  

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Brad Crowell 36:28  

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Lesley Logan talks with Kate Galli about the power of aligning your daily habits with your values to build a body and life you love. They explore Kate’s evolution from being an angry vegan to a joyful, aligned advocate, her mindset around habit formation, and why joy and self-compassion are the real game changers. This episode will inspire you to show up for yourself with clarity and intention.

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In this episode you will learn about:

• What led Kate to shift from angry vegan activism to compassionate advocacy.
• How grief and reflection helped her redefine her purpose and message.
• Why aligning habits with values creates sustainable change.
• The steps of Kate’s ABC method and how she uses it in real life.
• Ways to overcome all-or-nothing thinking and perfectionist patterns.
• How sharing joy and delicious food made her message more effective.

Episode References/Links:

• Kate Galli's Website - strongbodygreenplanet.com
• Kate Galli's Facebook - www.facebook.com/StrongBodyGreenPlanet
• Kate Galli's Instagram - www.instagram.com/strongbodygreenplanet
• Kate Galli's Twitter - twitter.com/strongbodygreen
• Kate Galli's LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/kate-galli-0873332a
• Plant Positive Journal - beitpod.com/plantpositive
• Healthification Podcast - beitpod.com/healthification
• What The Health Documentary - www.whatthehealthfilm.com

Guest Bio:

Health Coach, Author and Podcast host Kate Galli. Kate is qualified as a Master Personal Trainer, Life Coach, NLP Practitioner and has also completed the eCornell Plant Based Nutrition Certificate program. Kate first got into fitness as a way to transform her body and confidence. She has spent 18 years helping 1,000's of individuals sculpt a body and life they love. On an actionable level Kate's intention is: to help you create the Mindset that makes your prioritising your health and happiness simple and sustainable. Via the Healthification podcast Kate has interviewed hundreds of passionate and compassionate authors, athletes, doctors and entrepreneurs.

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Episode Transcript:

Kate Galli 0:00  

As anyone who's lost the person they love most in the world knows, the shock and the sadness, you have no space for anything else in your world. And two things happened, not instantly, but over the course of the next year, I realized that the sadness at losing my mum is so overwhelming, I legitimately have no more energy to be angry and sad and frustrated at all the non-vegans in the world. I just don't have emotional capacity for that because I've lost my number one person.

Lesley Logan 0:33  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 1:16  

Hi, Be It babe. Okay, this, today's episode is really fun. I, first of all, like, this woman is just such like an angel when she just talks. She was just like, you just want to listen to her stories. But also I was really excited to chat with her, because I knew we were talking about aligning your purpose and your beliefs. And I was like, okay, yes, you guys all need that. And then her expertise happens to be in a different topic, and I got so interested, based on what she was saying, that I had to go into what she also does, which is not normally what we do here on the show. We don't normally talk about being a plant-based eater, but, actually, don't turn this off, I promise you, I promise you, as someone who is a vegan, who eats meat, I am as, you know, consciously and environmentally sound as I can be with that, I've been really interested in changing that over and so meeting someone like Kate has truly opened my eyes into something more positive and happy. And so whether or not you want that for yourself, I want you to listen to this interview, because her approach to how she wants to change the world had to change at some point in her life. And I think we all have been in a place where we believe something, and someone else we know does not believe that, and it just becomes this friction around us, and we get frustrated because we want things to happen faster. We want them to believe in it sooner. We want them to change everything sooner. And the truth is that there that's not necessarily the way that you get people to be on board with your journey. And so I really, really, I think you can insert any of the words she's using for your beliefs and see how you can use her experience to support you in your journey and what you want to do. Also, also, her Be It Action Items are amazing. She hit all that. She hit the bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted. So she's a winner. Here is Kate Galli. 

Lesley Logan 3:14  

All right, Be It babe, I have a really fun guest. I was looking up all the things they're doing. I really enjoyed how they described a business from hell and still prioritizing themselves. I really, I was like, I was like, oh, someone can do that, then that is a Be It Till You See It podcast guest, if I ever saw one. So Kate Galli, can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at?

Kate Galli 3:35  

Lesley, it is my pleasure to be here. Thank you so much. I am a health coach, author and fellow podcaster, and I help vegans and the plant-based curious to any degree prioritize their health and happiness and thrive with plants. Their happiness component is really core to what I do, and how I do that is I help people create the mindset that makes prioritizing their most effective, eating and exercising action, simple, sustainable and fun. Lesley, I will say everything I speak to is mindset-related, so it is applicable to anyone with a health goal, no matter what way you choose to eat. So everyone's welcome. A little bit about, I guess, how I got into what I do as a health coach. You know, I was a debilitatingly shy teenager, and I joined the gym and started lifting weights specifically to, yes, transform my body also to transform my confidence, and that is one of the things that I love most about what I do now, whether it's in the gym with clients or coaching clients online, is to see this transformation so far as confidence and the ability to back yourself. That is something that I am incredibly passionate about seeing in others.

Lesley Logan 4:59  

Yeah, I, I am, I agree. I think, like, sometimes people think, like, when you say confidence and working out, it's often like, it is the look of it, the aesthetics of it. But as someone who lives at the gym as well, the when I when I pick up a heavier set of dumbbells, like, there's something really powerful about that and like, so it's actually like, I think hopefully becoming more and more normalized that, like, when you can give yourself a pull up, even if it's assisted, when you can, like, when you can actually do 10 push ups, when before you had to take breaks, like you are building confidence in yourself, because you're showing yourself how much stronger you are. And I think, like we, you know, the strength of, the strength that we all have is something we can all work on, and we have to work on all the time. And so I love that you also highlighted happiness. And I think that's really important. Because I do think that when people go on any kind of health journey, at some point they start doing it as a form of punishment and not a form of pleasure. How did, like, was that your journey? Was you, were you always a happy workout person? Or like, did you have to find that along the way? 

Kate Galli 6:02  

I was probably always a happy workout person. However, I certainly overdid it. I remember in my early 20s, when I was new to the gym and wasn't a personal trainer yet, I do an hour weights and an hour cardio six days a week, and I remember a trainer coming up to me and saying, the more you do with it, your exercise, the more you have to do, and the less you eat with your food, the less you have to eat. And it didn't really click at the time. But as you said, in hindsight, I was a bit about punishment, certainly with the cardio component. Never really liked that, and certainly about restriction with the food component too. There were so many foods that I was fearful of, whether it's fat because it made me fat or gave me pimples, you know, those were my misbeliefs, or whether I was fearful of carbohydrates, which I was that, like a decade, probably, definitely, those were some of the things that you know, made it less fun than it could be. And I think in recent years, even though I've had the fitness component so locked and loaded, I've, I lost the happiness a little bit because I'm so passionate about my mission. And I'm sure you can relate to this, or many listeners can relate to this. You know, we get this drive and this just focus and purpose and just go, go, go, and it's effective until it isn't, and it does get us results. However, the enjoying the journey and the prioritizing the happiness is something that I've really looked to focus on, honestly, just in the couple of, past couple of years. 

Lesley Logan 7:37  

Yeah, I understand, I understand that too, like, I think I grew up going, well, I'll just work harder. Like, you know, if I just work harder, I get better grades. Like, if I work harder, I can make more, like, you know, if you just work extra hours, you get paid more. And then, like, you start your own business, because you're like, I have this impact I want to make. I have this vision I want to do. And because you're so driven for it, it's pretty easy to just keep going, but at some point you wake up and going, oh my God, what am I doing? Like I am my own worst boss. I'm so hard on myself. I'm not happy. I'm doing the thing I said would make me happy, and I'm not, and I'm not happy. And so there's some place where, like, the purpose you have on this planet, and you get misaligned. So you're doing the thing, but you're not enjoying the doing of the thing. And so I feel like we, I feel like we all have to kind of go through that to actually get on the right path, because I don't know. I mean, maybe it's possible just to enjoy the beyond purpose and enjoy it all at the same time. But I feel like for a lot of us, we have to go hold on, where did I make a wrong turn or why am I not doing this. How did you find that?

Kate Galli 8:43  

Oh, so much. Um, first, I just want to say also that approach doesn't sell the lifestyle. When I was the extreme personal trainer, people might be, they might kind of think, oh, that's slightly inspirational. However, that's too much for me to even try what she does with her food and exercise. Same go with the veganism right? When I was the angry vegan that is not selling anyone on the lifestyle. I'm not welcoming people on board, so I made the change in the hardest, harshest possible way. I don't know how it would have come about if life didn't jump in the way and slap me in the face, but I'll try not to be so long with this. It is a bit heavy. But when I was first vegan, I'd been vegan a couple of years, and I was very much an animal rights activist. This is maybe, I don't know, six years ago now, and I was coming home for Christmas, and my dear mom rang me and she said, Katie, I don't know what to do about Christmas, because you're the animal rights activist, and your dad's anti vegan, and it's all about food. And we always had conflict, Lesley, my dad and I had, we had conflict always, but more so when I gave up all animal products. And she said, unless you want to mastermind a vegan feast and sell the family on it. I'm like, done. I will mastermind that feast. Perhaps you could sell the family on it. We had an amazing Christmas. I made eight new dishes. The food was fantastic. Mum was so grateful. When I was about to fly home to Sydney after that holiday, she said, Katie, will you watch What the Health with me? Now that's a documentary I had been emotionally blackmailing her to try and watch ever since I became vegan, ineffective, surprisingly, and so after I'd made all that effort, she watched it with me. She said, I'll try this plant-based thing for a couple of weeks. Years later, she's still plant-based. She's becoming more animal rights activist like me, our relationship could not be stronger, not the best for her relationship with my father. Anyway, three and a half years ago now, I got the phone call from my father that I always thought I'd get from my mum. Dad's not the healthiest with the way he eats or thinks, and I always thought I'd get the phone call from Mum, Katie, it's your dad. And I got the phone call from dad. Kate, it's your mum. And Mum had died suddenly, and I'd spoken to her that morning, a Sunday morning, at 7 am as I walked along the beaches, like we spoke every single morning, and by 3 pm she was gone. And as anyone who's lost the person they love most in the world knows, the shock and the sadness, you have no space for anything else in your world. And two things happened, not instantly, but over the course of the next year, I realized that the sadness at losing my mum is so overwhelming, I legitimately have no more energy to be angry and sad and frustrated at all the non-vegans in the world. I just don't have emotional capacity for that because I've lost my number one person. I also realized that with Mum, I have no regrets. We both knew how much we loved and respected each other, 100% no regrets there. If that had been my father, I would have had regrets, because our relationship was not as it should be, and a huge component of that was the judgment I held towards him for his actions. And so bit by bit, I forced myself out of that angry vegan and you know, life was just all about spreading this message back then. Now it's all it was about animal rights, nothing else, no space for anything else, wasn't effective, I wasn't happy, and so that is what forced me out of it. And I don't know what else would have, sadly.

Lesley Logan 12:40  

I'm so sorry, but I really appreciate you sharing, because I think we could insert any word for vegan and anti-vegan. I think we can insert political parties. We could insert like, different war, all the different things, because it really is, it becomes this like thing in the middle. And when families get together, it's just like it's glaringly there, and it starts to feel personal, because they're personal to us, and we love them. We're like, how can, how can I love someone who is again, something I care about so much, so I just appreciate you sharing that, because I definitely think your story, I think anyone can listen to and even if you aren't going plant-based or that's not something you care about, there is someone in your life who doesn't care as much about one thing or cares differently than you do, and you can think about, like, okay, I'm gonna have regrets there. So what can I do about it? The other thing is, it's really, and this is kind of like a sad, funny, but like, I have, I'm not plant-based totally. Like, call me a vegan who eats meat because I'm like, very dairy-free. I am a lot of I'm not so grain-free anymore, but there's a lot of grains I just can't eat. They don't do well. I can't do oats. Oat milk was my favorite. That's not a thing I can do. Like, I'm out on that, but like, at any rate, I choose to eat some meats that I'm very particular about. Like, how are they farmed all the different things. But we're, because of that, we're very aware of other people's dietary needs. And so Brad or somebody, was like, oh, are they vegan? I'm like, oh, you would know. If they were vegan, we would already know. And it's because, and maybe not so more anymore, but like, back when you became a vegan, like, that was kind of a thing, like, you wore it on your shirt. You were telling everyone to do it and I think that what we have learned through so much of this is that whatever it is we care about, yelling at people about how wrong they are is never going to get them to want to join us, you know, that's just not the way to do it. You have to figure out, like, how, what is it that they care about, and how can what they care about align with what we care about, and we can, like, show, you know, they have to experience it. They have to have their time. So anyways, I think that's really beautiful. So how did so, so tell me what's next. So, like, then you, you still wanted to stay on your purpose and your path and your journey of being plant-based. But how did you align changing how you went about it to that purpose?

Kate Galli 15:01  

So it's a constant battle, right? It's a constant daily awareness. One thing that helps me is with my podcast, I've interviewed, like literally hundreds of the most passionate and compassionate activists or authors athletes around the world. And I look at the ones who seem effective and happy in what they do, and I will say I've got mad respect for any type of activist, even the most extreme ones. However, they're not the happiest, and I worry about their health, and I think they only survive because they live in their little vegan bubble, and they only associate with other vegans. If they had to integrate into the world and associate with all their non vegan friends and family all the time, which is the path I've chosen to, you know, all of my family now and friends basically, are non-vegan. You have to prioritize that happiness, and I actually made it a little bit actionable to help myself get there. I have an ABC and A is an awareness of how my life was going to look in three months, six months, 12 months, if I kept going down that same path, you know, my relationship with my father would be even worse, my relationship with my colleagues, my clients, just random strangers. There was a lot of pain about how it was going to happen if nothing changed. So then B is the brainstorm. I thought, what are some of the things I need to stop doing? I stopped sharing those brutal posts on social media, because to share them, you have to see them, and then you get hate comments. I stopped having those conversations, and everyone knows them, whether it's about politics, as you say, or religion or a war, whatever it is, you know that conversation that isn't going to end well, because either you and that other person had disagree or in some scenarios, especially with veganism, they're just up for the debate. They don't really care either way, they're just like, let's have a debate with this crazy vegan, right? I stopped those conversations, and what I started doing is I started sharing happy, good news stories. I actually created a whole email every week around the good news story. I started sharing delicious recipes. I started sharing delicious food, which, by the way, was my mom's very effective approach. So I'm modeling the love and compassion and deliciousness that she led with in the few years she was plant-based. So those are the things I started doing, and the C is for a commitment. This is why I so widely share I'm no longer an angry vegan, because you can get when little angry activist Kate makes an appearance, someone's going to call me on it, right? They're going to go, hey, aren't you now the vegan that leads with love and compassion and deliciousness? So it's kind of a form of accountability. So, you know, that's the way that I had to have a talk to myself as well. Because initially there was, I guess, an awareness that that was I letting the animals down by no longer flying the flag so aggressively? And I came to the decision, and I talk about this all the time with guests on my podcast, that it's not necessarily what feels right in our heart all the time, it's what is effective. Right? So you, if my big picture is what it is, then I need to take the most effective actions to get there. And they might not always be my natural instinct. You know, sometimes I just need to calm down, get clear on what my vision is, and then take that more effective action. 

Lesley Logan 18:27  

I love this. I love this. Again, you can apply this to anything, but I think it's actually like an awareness of what you want, brainstorm all the different ways you're going to do that, and then commit to doing it like that's whatever it is. But I do think that what you want to, I want to highlight more, is like, I think we put a lot of pressure on ourselves to be all or nothing people, that if we're not all in, then it's not going to work. And I understand, like, the people who talk about manifesting, you have to like, you have to like, do all the things, but that's so much pressure, and it's not always attracting people on the journey. So I love that you, like, made really good, just shared really good recipes with people. I think, like, when people don't realize that, like, it can taste really good, you know what I mean? Like, you can actually make things taste good with it. You can sneak 'em in as like, oh, like, I had, one of my girlfriends was a happy herbivore, and she wrote all the books about the happy herbivore, and she made a cheese ball that was, like, insane. And I would just be like, I'll just, how do I make this cheese ball at home? Like it's the most amazing thing, because I miss I have, I can't do dairy. I miss it. I miss cheese. I want a cheese ball. I want to be with the people they're having cheese at the Super Bowl. I want to have it. And she, like, showed me, and then all of a sudden, it's like, you just put it out. You don't have to tell them what it is. And they dip in, like, this is amazing. It's like, you know, so, like, sometimes it's like, you have to, you get more, you know, bees with honey, right? Like, that's really what it is. So, and I apologize to the vegans listening, if you are against the honey part, I know. Some people like it. Some people don't. You know, there's a whole thing. So anyways, but I think it's really it is that what is the most effective approach to get people to understand what you're wanting them to do? And in any vision, you have to paint the picture of something beautiful that people want to be part of. And sometimes, if we're shouting from the rooftops too loud about all the bad things, it makes people feel almost paralyzed, and they're like, I don't even know what to do next. I like so I'm just, I'm just gonna, I'm actually gonna stand firm in what I'm doing, because I don't, you know. So what an what an amazing thing you did. And also, I like that you use the public accountability to help you stay, stay on because, yeah, we all have instincts. It's like, I'm just gonna yell at that person, because that's what I want to do, because that's gonna, that's gonna make me feel good, but it's not necessarily gonna get you what you want. 

Kate Galli 20:50  

No, agreed, 100%. 

Lesley Logan 20:52  

So, okay, you, we haven't ever really talked about plant-based and I kind of want to get into it, just because I know that you have such a wonderful approach to it. How, how, like, how easy it is to be a plant-based eater. Because I think some people get overwhelmed with, like, if, where am I gonna get my protein, where am I gonna get all these things, and so it's hard to feel like, how do I change over? Do you, is this something that you do in a step by step approach? Is this something like, you, like, try to switch people over all the way, what's, what's the form of action that's easy for people? 

Kate Galli 21:26  

For sure. A little background, you know, I made it harder than I needed to initially, for myself. Before I became vegan, nine years ago, I'd been vegetarian for 23 years, so no meat for 23 years. By that point in time, I'd been a personal trainer, so a low carb, high protein, vegetarian personal trainer for a decade. I decided I needed to be vegan. I walked into the gym and announced to all the other trainers in this gym, bro-type of the gym, that I was going vegan. One of them said, well, goodbye, lean muscle mass. And I realized that if this didn't work for me, it would reflect really badly on the lifestyle. So I put a lot of pressure into basically calculating, not just the macronutrients, they're actually quite easy, but all the micronutrients that I needed to hit in every single meal. So my meals just were a lot of effort and not so much deliciousness early days, I made it really hard because I had that point to prove, you know, cut to the chase nothing changed, right? I didn't gain any fat, I didn't lose any muscle or strength. I gained some energy. It was all good, but I made it hard. So now I look to make it easier for other people. I have a coaching program where I focus on clarity, confidence and consistency. I think they're really important with any health goal. And the clarity is actually where we look into building huge emotional intensity around your why, and we also align that why, or more so the actions you need to take to achieve that why with your most important values and beliefs. So that's getting really clear on your vision and the huge emotional intensity and how it's aligned with those emotional states that you're most drawn to. That clarity will pull you through those struggle straight days that we all get with any health goal, the confidence that's where the food comes in. Also, we're handling relationships with non-vegan loved ones, or whatever it may, might be. So yeah, in the confidence component I am all about, hey, this is the anatomy of a healthy plant-based meal. This is what it looks like. If your goal is muscle gain, you can obviously gain muscle, but you've got to be really aware, not just plant protein. That's pretty easy. You've got to be aware of caloric density often, for example, a big guy with lots of muscle. Not to stereotype, but say, there's the guy that's already happy with his physique. He might try plant-based, for the environment, for his health, whatever it may be. And he might lose a lot of weight just because he's, you know, he's swapped steak for spinach or something. That's not gonna work. It needs to be swapped for sweet potato and black beans, you know, with more caloric density, stuff like that. So that's the confidence. And then consistency is helping people stay on track.

Lesley Logan 24:17  

Yeah, I think I appreciate you talking about there's, like, different ways to do it, and like, what are your, what are your actual health goals for it? Because it is true. I think people think I'm gonna subs, I'm gonna, I think we're past the point people thinking it won't taste good. I mean, every vegan restaurant I've ever been to makes you realize that you can have vegan comfort food, and it is amazing. You know, like, you can have, you can have all of that, but it is the Can I also lift the way I want to lift. Can I do the things that the hobbies that I want to have, and I think like having joy in our lives is really important, and I hate and I think having joy outside of what we eat, but like in the things we do, but how we eat and how we fuel ourselves affects the things that we do. So I appreciate that you, you share that I am, I mean, I will just say, like, here in the States, we have, in the moment that we're recording, we have a massive bird flu problem, which is why, and it's been going on for a long time, and so eggs have been creeping up and all that. I live in a state where the eggs must be cage-free. So I was actually like, well, that works. I think that that's great. They have to be cage-free. I think they can't be bad. But what does that mean? It means our eggs are $20 for 12 pack. So I was just like, all right, so we're gonna have to think about, you know, maybe, maybe we're going even more plant-based than we were before. And like, how do I as a 42-year-old woman who wants to stay strong, who wants to have the energy to do the business that I do, like, I have to film workouts for Pilates and stuff like that. How do I reduce animal protein? Put it to plant protein and and also, like, you know, keep up what I've got, continue to remain strong, and then hopefully it's cheaper than the $20 eggs. Like, that would be great. 

Kate Galli 26:03  

I've got you it is cheaper. Two things. First off, you know you need to look at tofu scramble to replace those eggs. My dear mom, when she first went plant-based, hated tofu. I won her over with tofu scramble over crispy, baked, smashed potatoes. Loved it. So there are so many delicious recipes out there that you can make on mass. I would also say I also have a 5S strategy for plant-based protein, for just inserting it into your meals and I can run through that strategy. 

Lesley Logan 26:34  

I want to hear it if you don't mind, because all of my ladies are over 40, they have heard from all the different health people we have to have protein with perimenopause and menopause like make sure you're doing your protein. Don't overdo the cardio. So we're all on base with you. So what's, what's the 5S?

Kate Galli 26:48  

Awesome. So the first S is for the star. So that's when the plant-based protein is the star of the meal. And that's what you used to think of your protein like, right? So it's the steak was the old way. The star might now be the lentils and a curry, right? Or the marinated tofu. It's one kind of hardcore, decent serve of the plant-based protein. The next S is for scatter over you've got your regular meal, maybe your oats, not for you Lesley, but for someone else, who can have oats and you scatter over your hemp seeds, more protein per gram than beef, your pumpkin seeds, whatever it might be. The third S is for a stir through. Again, you've got your meal. It's delicious. Maybe it's a little bit lacking in the protein. And so you stir through your plant-based protein powder into your cereal, or your whatever it may be into your soups, you're just stirring through that additional plant protein. Next up is one of my favorites. It's the side. So maybe I just want that meal, that salad that I've made for everyone else to go with their meal, and it is delicious and abundant. It's just lacking in plant-based protein. So I have a side of a cup of edamame or crispy chickpeas or whatever it may be. The fifth sneaky one is the sauce. You know, early days, PT, personal trainer, a lot of sources were like high caloric density and low nutritional value and just made of processed oils and all of this rubbish. A lot of the plant-based sources are amazingly full of sneaky protein, like a silken tofu in a tofu ricotta type of a sauce, or an edamame guac. So guacamole that's chock full of edamame or whatever it may be. So yeah, they're the 5S and I use a combination of them every single day. I could make it six and make it a snack as well. So, yeah, there's lots. 

Lesley Logan 28:43  

I love that. I love that there's a there's a snack that we, I love when my husband makes me it's this popcorn with spirulina, Oh, little bit of nutritional yeast, salt, and I believe there is some a little bit of garlic, or maybe it's kind there's a tiny bit of something that just gives a little bit little bit of spice. And so yes, your fingers turn like, green or black. So he's like, he eats it with chopsticks. I'm not so good, so I just, I'm like, well, we'll just eat and then we'll wash our hands. But I love that snack, because also, with all that stuff added, you actually end up with protein on your popcorn. Like, it's like, see if there's a way to find these different things and also get all the nutrition from that. Brilliant. So I don't know, Kate, I didn't, I didn't expect to go into thinking maybe I'm gonna be more plant based after this. But I think, I think, I think I am just because, I mean, we already, my husband and I, are already very big on the environment. We're very conscious of, like, if we're gonna eat animal protein, like, how are we getting it? Where is it where is it coming from? We really try to make sure we're really good about that as best we can. But at this point, some point, you go, okay, now it's just becoming more expensive to even do that. Yeah, and it's and that, and that's not, you know, we're not attached to that. We're not attached to it. So I think this is really cool, but also I really love the idea of, like, kind of figuring out which s I want it to be, how, like, how I want to do it, and then, and then be kind to ourselves about trying to add it in, because it can be overwhelming, and we can't do all or nothing. So we have to be able to start to maybe it's like one meal a day that we, you know, change, and then go from there. 

Kate Galli 30:19  

100% and you mentioned, like cost of living, all of that. You know, when I used to be a planner of meal prep, and was very exacting with that, but now I just do food prep, where I prep individual components on the weekend, and I can make a variety of meals. And you know, when I prep my dried chickpeas, which takes no time, or my dried lentils, that is just a colossal amount of very cost-effective plant protein that I can just use in almost a limitless number of meals. And my dried chickpeas and lentils really aren't going up in price. They're incredibly cheap.

Lesley Logan 30:57  

Yeah, yeah, no, I think that's, I mean, we got so much from you today. We got being it until we see it, and being happy, and are checking our approach to our purpose on this planet. And then we got some just tips to like, adjust our life. Because I do think that no matter what you want to do in this world, what we forget is that our food is fuel. And if your food is not fueling you in a way that actually allows you to show up confidently with energy and stamina and things like that. Then you, you are distracted from the purpose that you have on this planet.

Kate Galli 31:30  

100% yeah, and whatever your huge purpose is, it is, sadly, going to take longer than you would most love, so you better be fueling your body well and looking after yourself in all the other ways to have, as you said, the sustainability to be in it long term, because it is going to take a while.

Lesley Logan 31:47  

Yeah, I know. Sorry, folks. You heard it here from Kate. In case you haven't heard it from my mouth, Kate's telling you like it just takes, everything just takes longer than we want. And it's not because you're not great at it. It's not because you don't, aren't, aren't deserving of it. It's not because you like you shouldn't you, in hindsight, your relationship went left when you went right. It's because you becoming the person you have to be who can do the thing, has to get there you have to, you, yourself are a muscle that has to be trained and cultivated and strengthened and challenged to get to the place you want to go. 

Kate Galli 32:20  

Completely agree. 

Lesley Logan 32:22  

Kate, I think you're amazing. I could talk to you forever. We're gonna take a brief break and then find out where people can find you, follow you, work with you. 

Lesley Logan 32:29  

All right, Kate, where do you like to hang out? Where can people connect more if they want to nerd out and just get to know you and work with you more?

Kate Galli 32:38  

The best place is the main website. So that's strongbodygreenplanet.com. Via the site, you'll find my Plant Positive Journal dedicated to my dear mom, my Healthification Podcast, and basically everything else that I do online. So, strongbodygreenplanet.com. 

Lesley Logan 32:56  

Oh, love it. We'll have all that link below before we let you go. I know you've given us a lot of great things to think about. But for our people who are like, okay, I'm really drawn to Kate. I really love what she's talking about. What are some bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps they can take to be it till they see it? 

Kate Galli 33:13  

I've got to say my number one go-to is to elicit your own personal values if you haven't yet. So your values are those emotional states that you are naturally drawn to. Think of where you spend your time, your energy, your money. My top two are freedom and integrity. But there's no right or wrong. Yours might be love, connection, truth, whatever they are, elicit those values and align them with your most important goal or vision. More so, align them with the actions you need to take to achieve that goal or vision that's going to be bold, because when you, when you have this big, powerful vision that's about more than just you, you're going to be more inclined to stick to it and take those bold actions. It's going to be executable because you have alignment. That is everything. Alignment between what you're looking to achieve and the daily actions you're taking is so much more powerful. It's intrinsic, because what you're looking to do is aligned with your heart. Now you're not stopping yourself, you're not fighting yourself. I call this the stop fighting yourself part of the process. And finally, it's targeted, because, again, you had absolute clarity on where you're looking to go and what you're looking to achieve.

Lesley Logan 34:29  

You're so great. We are so I, like, lucky to have gotten to know you today. I feel just so honored to have met you, inspired. I'm really excited to to hear how our Be It Pod listeners apply this, what they take out of this, what their favorite part is. So you all make sure that you tag the Be It Pod, tag Kate, and make sure that she hears what your takeaways are. Reach out to her at strong body, strongbodygreenplanet, right? I just think it's really amazing. And I think, your approach can, is something, again, I'll say it one more time for everyone, you can apply this to anything that you care about, and it's going to make life more fun, because it certainly isn't fun to be around the dinner table with people who are like, you know, you know that there's just going to be they're going to say the one thing, and they're going to do it just to piss you off, to see if you can get there and like, if you can just remember what's the purpose, and how can we attract them and what can we lovingly educate, as opposed to yelling? I think it's a wonderful way for us all to be it till we see it. So Kate, thank you so much. Everyone, you know what to do. Until next time. Be It Till You See It. 

Lesley Logan 35:40  

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Brad Crowell 36:22  

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Lesley Logan 36:27  

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In this episode you will learn about:

• How to advocate for your health at doctor visits.
• Heather’s bold move to change Pilates equipment and how her clients responded.
• Joanne’s journaling practice that shifted her mindset around money.
• Lesley’s solo weekend win and why personal time matters.

Episode References/Links:

• Make Doctors Listen To You - https://beitpod.com/robynholdaway
• FemGevity Affiliate - https://beitpod.com/femgevity
• Ep. 177 Lindsay Moore - https://beitpod.com/ep177
• Ep. 137 Jessica Valant - https://beitpod.com/ep137
• Move Free From Pain by Joanne Sutton - https://a.co/d/6nmJZHx

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Episode Transcript:

Lesley Logan 0:00  

It's Fuck Yeah Friday. 

Brad Crowell 0:01  

Fuck yeah. 

Lesley Logan 0:02  

Get ready for some wins. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 0:47  

Hi, Be It babe. How are you? Are you doing great? Happy Friday. I'm so glad you're here. I really am. I'm really glad that you're here. I hope you know that, like, as I sit here, picking what's gonna be the inspirational message for you today, picking the wins I'm going to share with you, reading your wins, because I have, like, a collection of wins. Some of them, if you notice, like when I read them, they're like from months ago is because there's so many that I want to share, and I wish I could share them all every single week, but know that I really do, can't wait to get them out there. And I hope that when you re-hear your win that you shared from months ago, you remember like you did that. You fucking did that. So way to go. So we do an inspiration from the internet, because things can be inspiring out there, doesn't have to be all be crap. We do wins of yours. We do a win of mine, and then we do a mantra. 

Lesley Logan 1:28  

And so this particular one is like, phrases to say when you're at the doctor. And I wanted to give this to you, because we want to talk about, like, how you need to be an advocate for yourself when you go to the doctor sometimes. So here they are. Specific phrases that will make doctors listen to you. One is, this is having a significant impact on my quality of life. The next one is, this is having a significant impact on my partner's life. Another is, it's keeping me from have, being able to do activities that I enjoy. I'm having to take off work because I'm experiencing symptoms. I've struggled to get appropriate care for this problem. Please, can you make a note why you're denying me this treatment? Could you please send a copy of my medical records to me after we're done? Other people have noticed the problems I'm having and have said to me that it may be an issue. My pain is significant enough that I cannot sleep or can't walk. If you are in a larger body then saying something like I have recently lost 10 to 15 pounds, and my symptoms have got worse. That can be a really quick cheat for doctors. They often say, like, you have to lose weight. And you can say, I've done that. And then another thing, if you have notes that you have psychiatric care to let them know that I've already talked about this with my psychiatric care doctors, and they agree that this issue has nothing to do with my psychiatric care, and my pain is very difficult to manage with other over the counter treatments here's what I'm experiencing to manage the situation. So like I, I wanted to share this with you, because I think sometimes we go to doctors and we tell them, like, oh, let's just see how it's going. Oh, you're in range, oh, this, oh that. And the problem is, is that you, by the time you got into the doctor is probably four to six months from when you wanted to and so it can be frustrating when they're like, let's just, let's just see how it's going. It's like it's been months, right? And I do hate when doctors are telling you to lose weight, because, as we know, most doctors had the least amount of training possible around nutrition, especially in the States. I don't, I can't speak for other places. So this particular account we'll link to in the show notes, these are people that are in the U.K. and these are phrases that they have noticed have worked for them, and then they have a whole bunch of comments in the section of other phrases have worked for other people. And I just wanted you to have it because, my goodness, your health should not be something that you, that is holding you back and keeping you from being it till you see it. And as you know, on the show, we've had multiple doctors on here before. We've had Lindsay Moore on here to talk about how to advocate for yourself. We've had Jessica Valant who talks about advocating for yourself. We've had the FemGevity people who work as telemedicine help for for women in multiple states in the U.S. So we, at this podcast, like, I really am trying, like, how do we get more doctors to you, to help you be till you see it? Because sometimes it's our health that's keeping us from these wins and from doing the thing we want to do, and holding us back. And then you get to the doctor, and they don't listen to you, that can be infuriating. So I hope those phrases help. I really, I had to advocate myself when I was having health issues, because I was like, let's just wait and see. Oh, it's not that bad. You probably just have IBS. And it's like, no, I don't have IBS. That's not a thing. I don't have that and so, but I would, but instead of, like, having a nice phrase to say, like, I have done all the things for IBS, and it has not, the symptoms have gotten worse, like that phrase would have gotten their attention, or, you know, things like that. So anyways, I hope, I hope that's helpful. I hope that helps you when on your next appointment, so you can be seen and taken care of, so you can go be the person you want to be. 

Lesley Logan 5:00  

Okay, your wins. Okay. This is from Heather Ingram. She is an eLevate grad, Agency member, and just all around badass person. And she wrote FYF, one of my clients who comes one time a week, does homework three to four times a week. So she does her Pilates homework three to four times a week. She's loving my new Contrology apparatus since I switched from the Allegro Tower of Power the last three sessions, she is amazed at how much connection she feels, and that it feels so much harder, but in a good way. Today, she said running feels like a real running too. I was so nervous to make a big change from an Allegro to a Contrology for fear of resistance or client concern in my boutique home studio, another client commented how much safer she feels in rushing splits and tendon stretch, since she has to do all the work, but now rocks the Reformer teaser for the first time, I personally felt like Pilates so is now so much harder as fuck in my own body. But I'm loving all the curiosity and my own body and my clients. I'm glad I made the leap in my teaching journey. I just want to acknowledge, like, even if you guys don't even know what those words are Tower of Power or Contrology apparatus. Like, we've all had to, like, felt this urge to, like, make a change in our life, right? Like, maybe it's your schedule or it's your job, or it's where you're gonna live, or all these things, and we're like, oh my God, and you don't know how it's gonna be on the other side, you just feel like it could be better. And then, you know those concerns that, like, the negative person's gonna come in and, like, go, oh, I like the other thing better. And like, so you could, like, go, oh my God, did I make the right decision. You could doubt yourself. And so I love that Heather saw out these comments as wins, that she made the right decision. And I just wanna say, if you are someone who's making a switch or change in your life, seek out the compliments and try, because what will happen is your brain will actually be on the alert for the person who's going to say, this sucks. And you go, yeah, you're right. It does suck. And really and really know like that person just thinks everything sucks, right? So anyways, I just wanted to share that win, because I think we can all like we can all relate to that a bit, right? 

Lesley Logan 7:04  

Okay, Joanne Sutton, she's from Agency. She's in Australia. She's amazing. She's got a great book out. We've had wins from her on her book. And she wrote, I was feeling down about my finances, so I have a few clients away for many weeks, and some large unexpected expenses. So I started worrying. I knew I needed to pull myself out of this dangerous worry state. So I wrote down all my financial wins for the year in a notebook. There were so many. The more I wrote down, the more grateful I felt, and I realized my situation was so much better than I thought it was. They included things like raising my rates, paying off my tax statement, plan early, getting a new client, selling Thera bands, etc. I'm no longer worrying and still feel I and still feeling grateful for everything I have and celebrating each new financial win as it comes along. I have a new client booked in for an initial assessment, as I mentioned above, she read my book a year ago, which she describes as a fascinating and signed up for my free book bonuses, which means she also gets my fortnightly newsletter. So after a year, she subscribed to my on demand videos and wants to have the initial assessment next month, which she has already paid for. She's in the U.K. and I'm in Sydney, Australia. My client journey really worked. I just like, I'm just obsessed with this, Joanne, because first of all, like, let's just go back to your first win, which is about, like, going, oh my god, I have all these bills. Oh my god, all this is happening. Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god. Like, ah, you know, I live in the States, and like, every thing on every time I open my phone the news widget is like, I got something financial for me to worry about. And it's so easy, as someone who's like, tendency to upper limit is by worry, to go in that worry zone. And I love that you went into the gratitude zone, and I love that you started to write down things that were financial gratitudes, and that allowed you to see, like, actually, like, what's going on right now for you sucks, but you have done all this, so look at how much you have done so you can handle this. You can totally handle this. And a year ago, you did something so scary, you published a book, and someone saw it, and we never get to determine how long it takes someone to sign up for something, but the fact that you were so consistent with your newsletters, even with everything that's going on in your life, so that she could when she was ready to make the decision, make the decision, contact you. You have to be so proud of yourself. Your consistency is what got her there, right? It's so amazing. Like there's always gonna be reasons why we don't do the thing, why we don't send the newsletter, why we don't do the post, there's always a reason, but the fact that you had consistency there allowed this person to feel safe and sign up and like, that's just going to fill those financial problems that are momentarily, momentarily happening. Yeah. So anyways, thank you, both ladies, for sharing these things so we can see, like, ah, gratitudes. Like, never underestimate them. 

Lesley Logan 9:38  

Okay, my win. Okay. In May, I know this is June, but in May, I didn't get to celebrate with you guys, yet, my husband goes on a camping trip with his friends, and they always want me to go, like they always, they always want me to go. And I was going to go, and then they changed the date, so it was going to be difficult for me to go. And then they went the original dates, and then they changed dates. It was like a hard no, can't do it. I was leading the eLevate Cadillac weekend, which means it's like the halfway point, I would have about eight different people at the house from the two different groups, and so it was just gonna be a lot and I mean, not a lot. It was amazing. I love doing it. It's a lot, but it's really fun for me. However, I, I was like, oh, I can't go on this trip now, because this is happening, and my win is, I actually was like, okay, but what do I get to do? Because I don't get to go on this trip, but I also get to have a weekend doing whatever I want when I'm not teaching this group of people. Amazing. My husband took Bayon so I actually also had a weekend dog-free. So I was just like, I was like, a single girl for like, four days. I'm gonna tell you right now, I did all the things that I never get to do, and I'm like, I have to think about the dogs. Do I have to go back to this? Oh, does Brad want to come like I did everything, like a single woman would do it, and I fucking loved it, not that I but I'm not saying like I would love being single. I would never love that. I love my partner so much, and I love my dog so much, but like, I just took advantage of four days, and also, like that allowed me to be so much even more focused on the women who came to the house for the eLevate weekend. And then also for those who are on the Zoom, I could be so much more focused for them. So, a huge win. And just like, yeah, I took myself on a girls night. Fuck yeah, I did.

Lesley Logan 11:17  

You know, I ate at the places I wanted to eat. I had girl dinner, which for me is eggs and tater tots, sweet potato tater tots, sweet potato tater tots, to be specific. So, like I did all that, guilt free. So fun. And so you know, if you needed to hear that a girl's night is a freaking win, like a solo girls night is a win, or a girls night with your girlfriends is a win. It is. These are hard things to do. Should I, I could have cleaned out my closet, and if I had I could call that a win, but I really wanted to take the weekend and do like, whatever I wanted to do, and so I did. That's my win. I love it. 

Lesley Logan 11:48  

Okay, let's get you a mantra, and then get you on your day. My heart is open to helpfulness for myself and others. My heart is open to helpfulness for myself and others. My heart is open to helpfulness for myself and others. You guys, are you receiving? Are you allowing it to be easy for people to give you things? Are you receiving? I hope you are. If you're not, repeat that mantra three more times. You guys, have an amazing day and until next time, Be It Till You See It. 

Lesley Logan 12:16  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.

Brad Crowell 12:58  

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Lesley Logan 13:03  

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Brad Crowell 13:08  

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Lesley Logan 13:15  

Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.

Brad Crowell 13:18  

Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.

How do you embrace slow living when the world demands speed? Lesley and Brad reflect on Lesley's interview with author and slow living advocate Stephanie O’Dea. They explore how intention, structure, and seasonal living can create a more fulfilling life. This episode is a reminder that it's okay to go at your own pace and that it might be the key to your peace.

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• What seasonal living looks like and why it works.
• How guilt and people-pleasing get in the way of presence.
• Small steps to start building a slower, more values-aligned life.

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Episode Transcript:

Lesley Logan 0:00  

Whenever we're trying to make things happen fast, but it usually means we want to skip ahead. And unfortunately, when you skip ahead, you miss out on like the muscle strength and experience you need for where you're going to go. So then when you get there, not only are you further along than you are strong enough to be, but now you don't have the skill set to handle the problems you have. 

Lesley Logan 0:18  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 1:01  

Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the sustainable convo I had with Stephanie O'Dea in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened that episode, you need to, as part of a slow living request, you got to go rush over and just make it.

Brad Crowell 1:17  

Just rush right now, get over there. 

Lesley Logan 1:20  

Do not pass go. You gotta listen to it. She's so great. She's so fun. I got to be on her podcast as well. But also she's like, a famous, like, slow-cooking person, like she's.

Brad Crowell 1:30  

Yeah, Crock-Pot. 

Lesley Logan 1:31  

Just the famous Crock-Pot. 

Brad Crowell 1:33  

Not insta-pot. 

Lesley Logan 1:33  

Yeah, no. 

Brad Crowell 1:34  

She was very upset about the Instant Pot. 

Lesley Logan 1:37  

She was and we were really in on the insta-pot, but we got off the insta-pot, we like made soup.

Brad Crowell 1:44  

Yeah, still do occasionally. It's good times. 

Lesley Logan 1:47  

Just whenever we're home when it's soup weather. Speaking of what day today is, today is June 19th 2025 and it's Juneteenth here in the United States. The freedom of African Americans from slavery in the U.S. in 1865 is celebrated on the holiday Juneteenth on June 19th. Juneteenth is made up of the words June and 19th. 

Brad Crowell 2:06  

Case you didn't know.

Lesley Logan 2:08  

Just, whoever writes these, it's always just the explanation of the day, using the day you can't. 

Brad Crowell 2:15  

It's celebrated every year on this day. 

Lesley Logan 2:17  

Yes, yes. And it is on this day that Major General Gordon Granger, wow, arrived in Texas, more than 155 years ago, to inform slaves that slavery had been abolished. Today is also.

Brad Crowell 2:31  

Yeah, well I just want to comment on that because, because they just ignored the messengers and they were like, nah, we're good. We're gonna keep doing.

Lesley Logan 2:41  

Not the slaves, the bad people. 

Brad Crowell 2:43  

Yeah, the slavers. They were like, yeah, we're just gonna keep going. And then they, they sent, well, actually, I don't, I actually, don't know who first, who came first. It's possible that Gordon Granger got there to make the initial announcement, and then later it had to be enforced.

Lesley Logan 3:01  

Yeah, this is something that the day didn't give us information on. And I feel like I've read about, here's what I do, every Juneteenth I actually read about it and I find myself appalled that this happened. And then also, of course, it didn't, and also the time we're recording this. 

Brad Crowell 3:15  

Also, of course it did what? 

Lesley Logan 3:16  

I said at the time that we're recording this. 

Brad Crowell 3:18  

No, no, before that you said. 

Lesley Logan 3:19  

Of course, it did, of course, bad things. Of course it happened because they're shitty people. Of course it happened. But on this time that we are recording this, because the day after a very, very huge slave, like the largest slave sugar plantation, slave house burned to the ground, it was turned into a wedding venue, and so people are having those antebellum weddings, and it's like humongous tons of rooms like but was one of the worst slave places in Louisiana, and it burned to the ground. And I have to say, people are celebrating the fuck out of it online. And I have no problems with that. In fact, I have why I like was celebrating and smiling with them every reel of every person, like dancing and going, oh, do you need some water? And then pouring away from the fire. I was like, yes, yes to all of it. Because, I mean, I just, it's just, it's bad. So anyways, please make sure that you are honoring Juneteenth today. Take some time to read up on it. If you didn't know about it. We obviously still have some learning to do, but it's an important day. 

Brad Crowell 4:25  

Remember this general. Major General. 

Lesley Logan 4:27  

Yeah, Major General Gordon Granger. 

Brad Crowell 4:30  

That's a mouthful. 

Lesley Logan 4:30  

That is a mouthful. I mean, his parents didn't name him Major General, so.

Brad Crowell 4:37  

Fortunately for his parents. 

Lesley Logan 4:38  

What if he become a ranger? Then he'd be Ranger Granger. 

Brad Crowell 4:42  

Major General Gordon Granger Ranger. 

Lesley Logan 4:44  

No, he would have just been a ranger. It would have been Ranger Granger. All right, today is also the International Day for the Elimination of Sexual Violence and Conflict for everyone else there, out there in the world. So we wanted to, because it's an international show and so on this International Day for the Elimination of Sexual Violence and Conflict is observed every year on June 19th to raise awareness about sexual violence and conflict and to strategize ways to end these crimes throughout the world. On June 19th 2015, United Nations General Assembly proclaimed the date as the International Day for the Elimination of Sexual Violence and Conflict. This date commemorates the adoption of Security Council Resolution 1820 in which the Council condemned sexual violence as a tactic of war and an impediment to peace building. Yeah, wow. 

Brad Crowell 5:31  

Yeah, this one's heavy. 

Lesley Logan 5:32  

It's a heavy day. Brad, these are heavy. 

Brad Crowell 5:35  

Yeah. I mean, you know, like, I listen to a lot of deep dive interviews about the conflicts in Europe, you know, and then a. 

Lesley Logan 5:45  

Oh, it's terrible what they do. 

Brad Crowell 5:46  

In the Middle East and in Africa. And, you know, like they're using rape as a tool of war in. 

Lesley Logan 5:54  

So many countries. 

Brad Crowell 5:55  

In the Ukraine, you know, in, in, it's historically.

Lesley Logan 6:01  

Yeah, it's happening. It's happened. It's happened for centuries and it happens everywhere, and it is horrifying. So I think it's, think it's, I can't believe it took till 2015 for the world to be like, this is a bad thing. 

Brad Crowell 6:16  

Well, I mean, it's been, you know, it's a war crime. It's been war crime for a really long time. But yeah, maybe just this, you know, the day bringing awareness to it. 

Lesley Logan 6:27  

Do you know who then, who gets to be the court for war crimes, like, who does it? 

Brad Crowell 6:33  

Yeah. So there's the International Criminal Court, the ICC. 

Lesley Logan 6:37  

Oh. 

Brad Crowell 6:37  

Yeah and we're not a part of it, we don't honor the ICC as the United States of America, which is a complicated political decision. 

Lesley Logan 6:47  

We are winning. We are winning in the history books right now, guys. Well, you know what? I think we need to bring this day up a little bit. So first of all, I think Juneteenth is like a positive holiday, right? 

Brad Crowell 7:04  

Yeah, Juneteenth is a positive holiday. I think that it's important to remember, but also it's a day of celebration. So, love that. 

Lesley Logan 7:12  

Okay. And. 

Brad Crowell 7:13  

We can talk more about the ICC later, y'all, if you're really interested.

Lesley Logan 7:16  

I don't think anyone came here. We'll get Brad his own segment at the end. 

Brad Crowell 7:21  

I listen to a lot of this kind of stuff, and, you know, it's interesting, it's interesting why we chose not to be, you know, part of it, but also we still. 

Lesley Logan 7:30  

Well, because we would be in trouble for war crimes all the time. 

Brad Crowell 7:32  

We would be in trouble for war crimes. That's right.

Lesley Logan 7:34  

Yes, that's right, okay, but you know what's happening that's going to be more fun than all this talk? July.

Brad Crowell 7:42  

Slow living. 

Lesley Logan 7:44  

July 9th, we are hosting, wait, oh, we are doing this. Yes, okay. 

Brad Crowell 7:50  

Yeah, this is actually happening. 

Lesley Logan 7:52  

Okay, but there's a few things going on and July is very busy. 

Brad Crowell 7:54  

July is a busy month for us. 

Lesley Logan 7:54  

So, so it's June right now, obviously, Juneteenth, but July 9th, I am hosting an eLevate workout and Q&A. So if you're a Pilates instructor, this is a free workout. It's a way to get your questions about eLevate, my mentorship, answered. You can hear from people who've done eLevate and why they like it and why you should do it, because you shouldn't take it from me. You can take it from the people who've been part of it. So you want to go to lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlist lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlist. Then on July 17th, we are doing an Agency Mini. Guess we are bringing it back for Pilates instructors and studio owners. 

Brad Crowell 8:30  

Yeah, that's exciting. 

Lesley Logan 8:30  

If you remember, we used to, up until last year, do it a little week long coaching program for Pilate instructors and studio owners. And we loved it, and it was amazing, and then we stopped doing it, and we're like, we're never doing it again, because it was there's parts of it that were amazing, were amazing, and some of the parts were overwhelming, and they were overwhelming. 

Brad Crowell 8:48  

Yeah, not just for us, but also for the attendees. 

Lesley Logan 8:51  

Mostly, for, yeah, it was less about there's less about us, more, so we have been working behind the scenes on making some amazing changes, and now we have a new Mini. 

Brad Crowell 9:01  

We've got a mini Mini, but we're just still calling it Mini, yeah, but yeah, it's only three days, not seven. 

Lesley Logan 9:06  

Yes. And you get all the best parts of Mini, which is a workshop on how to actually attract clients you want to work with. Then you get to use Lesley on Demand, this amazing tool. So we'll help you with your I Help statement. And then you get to join office hours with Brad and I, includes breath work, and we're going to answer all the running questions about your business on this call. It's so much fun. You can see if Agency is right for you, but also you can get questions answered. And, you know, take that information with you. 

Brad Crowell 9:31  

Just come party about your biz. It's gonna be good. Go to prfit.biz/mini prfit.biz/mini yeah.

Lesley Logan 9:39  

And then July, yeah, I believe we actually start on the 24th but maybe we start on the 25th Don't ask me. We start end of July, and we go to August 17th, and it's the OPC Summer Tour. You're gonna go to opc.me/tour to get your tickets for and see the cities we're going to. We are going up.

Brad Crowell 9:58  

We teach in Phoenix on the 25th So we could go down on the 24th.

Lesley Logan 10:01  

Oh, okay, cool. You know, we'll do whatever. Maybe we'll go to the Oatman Ranch and we'll go play with the donkeys. 

Brad Crowell 10:08  

I don't remember that. I

Lesley Logan 10:10  

Yeah, I told you about it. I told you about it. 

Brad Crowell 10:12  

Oatman. 

Lesley Logan 10:12  

I think it's called Oatman. Um, anyways, um, you guys, we're gonna start in Phoenix, and we go to San Diego, then it's Los Angeles, and it's Santa Barbara, and then maybe a city in between, and then San Francisco, and then Sacramento, and then Eureka, and then Portland and Seattle, Vancouver, yes, you just heard Vancouver, Canada, and then Kamloops, Canada and Calgary, Canada. And then we're gonna come down into Idaho and Utah. 

Brad Crowell 10:42  

We're gonna swing through Montana for a bit. We want to see glacier. 

Lesley Logan 10:45  

Well, for vacation, yeah, so, but, you know. 

Brad Crowell 10:48  

We'll be posting about a coffee shop and white fish, probably. 

Lesley Logan 10:52  

Yeah. Well, at any rate, you want to go to opc.me/tour to snag your tickets. And by the way, we end in Las Vegas, and that class already sold out. 

Brad Crowell 10:59  

I know it's insane. I can't believe it. Bam. 

Lesley Logan 11:02  

24 hours. Class sold out. We already have. 

Brad Crowell 11:03  

20 seats in. 

Lesley Logan 11:04  

Yeah. 

Brad Crowell 11:05  

That's. 

Lesley Logan 11:06  

Well, we did tell them if they wanted us to come, and they did. Yeah, yeah, opc.me/tour of course, we are sponsored again by Balanced Body and Contrology. We're bringing our Contrology equipment. It's gonna be so much fun. Then in September we are going to be in the U.K. We have two amazing stops, Leeds and Essex. Leeds, you can get two day pass there. There's only three spots left, so. 

Brad Crowell 11:31  

Only three spots left in Leeds. 

Lesley Logan 11:33  

At the time that we're recording. So we're recording this, obviously, before Juneteenth, so you never know. And then in Essex, we actually opened up the day passes, because we're doing Essex on a Tuesday and a Wednesday. So you could do an all day Tuesday. 

Brad Crowell 11:44  

You'll come out for the day from the city. 

Lesley Logan 11:46  

All day Wednesday. We know it's not easy to get two days away during the week, but also it's really hard to get away on the weekends, so we offered you two options, during the weekend, on the weekends, opc.me/uk that's where you want to go. And then, of course, in October and come with us to Cambodia. Holy moly, we are insanity. Have you heard this, this schedule, and then he wanted to take me camping in here, guys. 

Brad Crowell 12:08  

Oh, we're going. 

Lesley Logan 12:08  

We're going camping, apparently. 

Brad Crowell 12:10  

Yeah, we're going camping somewhere in there. 

Lesley Logan 12:11  

Very expensive storage that we live in sometimes. So Cambodia. 

Brad Crowell 12:16  

Oh, you mean our house?

Lesley Logan 12:17  

Yeah, I love it so much. But Cambodia is you'll have, you'll be at our house in Cambodia, and we do retreat, stuff and workshops and temple tours. 

Brad Crowell 12:28  

Oh men, it's just gonna be amazing. 

Lesley Logan 12:30  

So go to crowsnestretreats.com crowsnestretreats.com. The plural is on the crows and the retreats, but not the nest. So there you go. All right, before we got to get to Stephanie, but before we get there, Brad, do we have a question to answer?

Brad Crowell 12:44  

We do @creativesoulpilates on Instagram asked, hey LL, are you coming down to the IE anytime soon? IE is Inland Empire, which is Southern California. Basically, it's between Los Angeles and Riverside so, or I think actually, I think actually, Riverside is also considered IE.

Lesley Logan 13:04  

I think that Riverside is the IE, is it also, is Covina the IE? 

Brad Crowell 13:07  

Covina and West Covina, I think they're south of L.A. I don't think they're technically IE. 

Lesley Logan 13:12  

Like the Orange County. 

Brad Crowell 13:13  

Closer to Orange County, I believe. 

Lesley Logan 13:14  

Well, anyways. 

Brad Crowell 13:16  

If I'm wrong, hit me. Let me know. 

Lesley Logan 13:20  

If you all want to know L.A. well, go watch Everybody's in L.A. Just watch, at least the first episode. 

Brad Crowell 13:25  

You know what, I'm 1,000% wrong. Covina is directly south of Glendora and Azusa, so it's where the 15 cuts down. Nope, it's not the 15. So it's towards Pomona. It's the beginning of IE, West Covina and Covina are like the beginning of the San Bernardino Valley, I think.

Lesley Logan 13:46  

Well, at any rate, to answer your question, we are not going to be anywhere near the IE, we are going to be in Toluca Lake. I guess that's not far from the IE, but it is. We are going to be, basically, we're in the valley of Los Angeles, close to Burbank. Right? Toluca Lake is like Burbank. 

Brad Crowell 14:01  

Toluca Lake is Studio City, Burbank. It's between the two near Van Nuys, like, yeah. 

Lesley Logan 14:07  

It's gonna be on our West Coast Pop Up Tour. 

Brad Crowell 14:09  

I'm so excited. 

Lesley Logan 14:10  

I know. 

Brad Crowell 14:11  

I freaking love Los Angeles so much, and I cannot wait to just be back. Like, I literally used to live, like, two streets that were from where the studio is.

Lesley Logan 14:20  

Well, and also, for years, we're actually using the studio that we did the Accessories Flash Card photo shoot at. So I actually got to live in this part of L.A. for a week and now I can say I lived in that part of the valley. It's really, really fun. So we had Strong Body, but it's part of our summer tour. And so you got to come, because here's the deal. We, when we go to L.A. we typically go to hang out with friends, and we pretty much try to avoid working as much as possible, but because we're on tour. 

Brad Crowell 14:47  

It's true. 

Lesley Logan 14:47  

And we want an excuse to see L.A. again, we are making a stop as we're going by so go to opc.me/la for tickets to the L.A. event. Or if you go to opc.me/tour, you'll see San Diego, Santa Barbara. You know, because people who live in L.A. also live very far from the center of L.A., typically, so like Poway, as the San Diego city. So you know, there's some really good stuff. But thanks, you guys. You guys, we have a really easy place for you to send your questions in. You can text us at 310-905-5534, or you can actually submit your questions or a win at beitpod.com/questions. 

Brad Crowell 15:27  

That's right beitpod.com/questions.

Lesley Logan 15:28  

Now you can just do it there, and it's so easy and you can be anonymous if you want to. You can whatever you want. 

Brad Crowell 15:36  

Well, you know, so for the Friday episodes, we celebrate wins. And now, instead of people sending DMs, you know, fill out this form, it actually makes it easier for you, too. It's clear what it is, and we know what's going on, all the things. So beitpod beitpod.com/questions

Lesley Logan 15:54  

And you could put your win there too. I know, it's, which we didn't want to have two links. We just want to have one. So it's we could have called it quest wins.

Brad Crowell 16:01  

Quest wins. We could have, we could have really gone over well with trying to figure out how to spell that. 

Lesley Logan 16:07  

All right. All right.

Brad Crowell 16:08  

Well, look, stick around, this, we're going to talk about slow living. This, this break will be fast, but the, but the conversation about Stephanie O'Dea is going to be really exciting. So we'll be right back. 

Brad Crowell 16:21  

All right. Now, welcome back. Let's talk about Stephanie O'Dea. She's a writer, she's a coach, she's a teacher and a speaker who helps people embrace slow living. 

Lesley Logan 16:30  

She's a teacher and a speaker. I like how that sounded. 

Brad Crowell 16:33  

She's a teacher, teacher and a speaker. Her journeys began in 2008 on a viral blog where she used her Crock-Pot every single day for an entire year, landed her on national TV and got her a book deal, and that, she said, that journey lasted for about eight years before things really changed with the introduction of the Instant Pot. Fascinating. She said, when that, when that trend rose, she realized faster isn't always better. After stepping back to unplug, she discovered her true gift was helping others reach their goals in a slow, steady and sustainable way, a mission she now shares through her Slow Living podcast. 

Lesley Logan 17:13  

I, so, so first of all, okay, I would just have to say, I was on her pod, and I was like, okay, like, this is great, you know, this is wonderful. And I really enjoyed her. I thought she was so sweet. And then she came on the pod, and, like, I was like, I'm in the presence of, like, a celebrity, like I and I was like, oh my God, she's, I'm sure, like your mom and your grandma and, like all these people, probably like, no, she is. And I'm sitting here going, oh my God, who are you? Oh God.

Brad Crowell 17:48  

Well, she, not only that, she is really fun. 

Lesley Logan 17:53  

Oh yeah. 

Brad Crowell 17:53  

And, like, snarky, and, you know, like the things that she was saying, she's got a lot of experience. You know, going through life. And I appreciated it, and I enjoyed it. And it was, it was, it was a really great conversation. In fact, I feel like it's probably a conversation, y'all, that you would want to save. So if you have not had a chance to go back and listen, I would recommend it. But. 

Lesley Logan 18:20  

So slow living, you guys, stands for look only within. So, like, trusting your inner voice and intuition to find answers. And I really love that we talked about, like, slow living is meeting your goals. It meets all of them, but it just says it like, as you said in the bio, like in this nice, sustainable way, some of us are, like, really trying to make things happen fast. And this one book that I read every morning was like whenever we're trying to make things happen fast, but it usually means we want to skip ahead. And unfortunately, when you skip ahead, you miss out on like the muscle strength and experience you need for where you're going to go. So then when you get there, not only are you further along than you are strong enough to be, but now you don't have the skill set to handle the problems you have, and so that's why you don't get to skip ahead. So I really do believe it's sustainable to hit your goals in a way that is steady and allows you to evaluate and you and trust your gut intuition. And she said, she encouraged you to decide your next best step when you're in a good mood and not when you're feeling down. And I was like, that is so common sense and fucking brilliant.

Brad Crowell 19:24  

Yeah. No, that makes total sense. I mean, when we make decisions in a bad place, you know, we're making reactionary decisions. We're not making proactionary decisions. I just wanted to throw out there the 34% Rotten Tomatoes review on an Adam Sandler movie from 2006 called Click. 

Lesley Logan 19:44  

There, okay. 

Brad Crowell 19:45  

Which is exactly what you're just describing. It's all about how he somehow got a magic remote that fast forwarded through what, at the time, he was like all the bullshit so that he can get to what he wants to do in his life.

Lesley Logan 20:00  

Oh, but then, and then he got there and he missed everything. 

Brad Crowell 20:03  

He missed everything. 

Lesley Logan 20:04  

Yeah, yeah. I was in sixth grade, or fifth grade, when I read a story about a little boy who had this magic string, and he could just pull the string and it could, like, skip ahead. So like, he was, like, not ready for a test, so like, he pulled the string and he like, skipped ahead. Now he's in next grade. And then he, like, pulled the string a little bit more. And then he was in high school and, like, it's the same thing, I think, Click just came from the story of this little kid who pulled the string too much. At any rate, I, I wanted to say, like, going back to the good mood or bad mood. Sometimes when I'm in my email inbox, I start to get a little overwhelmed. Because, like, the only emails I have to respond to often require a little bit of research, of like, they're like, like, someone's asking me to do this event, and I already said I would do it, but I have given them rates before, and they like, want rates again, and they asked for my rates to be lowered, and I but, but they were like, oh, can we get your rates? And also, like, this is our first time so it would be great if you could lower your rates to help us support this event. And I was immediately pissed. I was so pissed off because I was like, what are you talking about? Like, what? And so I was like, and so, you know, I got this email. I'm really behind on my emails. I'm gonna you will have response from me by the end of this week. And I was like, because nothing good is going to come from what I want to say in this moment. And I just need to be able to get angry and feel my feelings, and also go, well, why am I in a bad mood now? Like, what happened? Well, it's not intentional. She personally did not intend to piss me off in any way, but it's the, this is, by the way, guys, this is like a constant, like, I'm asked is my inbox is mostly people asking me to do free things, or to negotiate the rates I say of things and so. 

Brad Crowell 21:50  

Or to partner up, which means. 

Lesley Logan 21:52  

Partner up, which means do it for free. 

Brad Crowell 21:53  

Do it for free. 

Lesley Logan 21:54  

And so, it's, so by the time I got to this email, I had already had gone through like seven people wanting to do things for free, and then this person wants to pay me, but not as much and I was like, I gotta walk away, because I have an appropriate response. I'm sure we can get to a place where it's gonna work for both of us. But I just was angry. And so, so it's always better if you're not in a good place to just like, give yourself a permission. And this goes to slow living, if, if my response to her at the end of the week means she can't work with me, then I don't. It wasn't for me, you know, like, like, slow living, like, I really love what Stephanie's talking about, because we used to live that fast pace. Do, do, do, do, do. We were in Australia, then Spain, then, then New York, then U.K. and it's like, and I don't actually want to do that anymore, and so, so I think it's like, really. 

Brad Crowell 22:47  

We have tried to be more intentional. Before it was like, oh, you're willing to pay us, we'll be there, even if it's like, stupid, you know, for us to travel that way. 

Lesley Logan 22:56  

Also, by the way, when you're new in an industry or new at a thing, I do think that you need to get your feet wet. I do think you need to, I want to make sure, like, I don't want any Pilates instructors like working for free, but I also sometimes you do, and so I think, like, I never flew anywhere for free, but I definitely wouldn't travel for the rates I used to travel on. However, I because I was willing to say yes to things and learn from those experience. I could keep changing my contract had I had my current situation set up now, well, one, I wouldn't know all the things I wouldn't have known all the things that drive me crazy when I travel, and it's like, no, I do need my own hotel room, and I actually do need pistachio milk for my coffee or something like, I know that, what I need, right? I sound like Mariah Carey. But, you know what? I know why Mariah Carey is now like that, because sometimes you don't have what you need, and then you perform at your best and you don't have it. So I wouldn't know all the things that really helped me be the person I am had I not gone through that stuff. So I don't think anyone should skip ahead. But also, at some point you have to go, okay, hold on. Do I need this, right? So anyways, I also just want to say share, to quote, discipline is just choosing between what you want now and what you want most, and just going back to like you saying like now we're more intentional. It's like, it can be really flattering to be asked to do certain things and so, but also, what do we want most? And so is it like, is that part of the most, or is that actually just flattering? And then, you know, so you all have to decide, like, when you're saying yes or doing things like, what is ahead? Is it on the journey what you want most? But I really liked her, her definition, her quote of discipline, because most people think it's like, means like. 

Brad Crowell 24:41  

But she was full of them. 

Lesley Logan 24:42  

She was so, I mean, there's so much stuff I have to go.

Brad Crowell 24:45  

She defined FOMO as Figure Only Myself Out. Figure Only Myself Out. So, meaning, stop the comparison game, where we're probably scrolling the gram and then beating ourselves up about it, right? And she said, she also said, it's not too late to start now, right? So you can, instead of FOMO, as in, you're missing, you know, you're not doing what they're doing on Instagram. FOMO is figuring only myself out. What do you want to do? You know? How are you going to get you know? What is your path? Where are you going? You know, and you can start to figure that stuff out today. She said, Start pivoting. It's time. Let's do this, right? She also emphasized, setbacks are normal. And she said something that I laughed about, because we are, one of the things that we say a lot in OPC is, if you only have five minutes, just do five moves, you know, like, don't, don't make a big thing out of not having time. And we just had somebody quit the other day, oh, I only was able to log into class once this week, you know, and I'm barely getting to it, right, and so they quit their entire membership, you know. And now I'm, like, thinking that I'm gonna email her back and say, hey, that's okay, you know, like, think about that, even if you came, you know, only five minutes in a week, would it be worth it to start now and be consistent with five minutes and then consistent with 10 minutes.

Lesley Logan 26:26  

And also, like, what are you going to do without it? You're going to somehow be better at doing your Pilates some, somewhere, somewhere else, no you're not. 

Brad Crowell 26:33  

No, clearly you're not. Clearly, if they can't log in at home, they're obviously not going to a studio to do it, right? 

Lesley Logan 26:40  

And also, some people actually only do it once a week, and that's fine. Like, I only log into Max HBO on Sundays for John Oliver. Like, you know what I mean? Like, and I don't go. So I think we have to stop putting so much pressure on ourselves that it has to be all or nothing. If that's how you're living your life, you're going to miss out on a lot of things.

Brad Crowell 26:59  

Yeah. And Stephanie said, you know, if you're doing a 30-day challenge, but it takes you 45 days. You did not fail. You still did the challenge. You did it on your time, and that's okay. 

Lesley Logan 27:12  

That's FOMO, Figuring Only Myself Out. 

Brad Crowell 27:15  

That's right, yeah. And she said, you'd be way more proud of yourself for going even if you have to take a day off, right? I was just thinking about the video you showed me last night about the one-legged. 

Lesley Logan 27:28  

The Pope, yes. 

Brad Crowell 27:29  

No, no, but that's funny. The one-legged athlete.

Lesley Logan 27:33  

Yes, the Nike girl. 

Brad Crowell 27:35  

Yeah, who, the reason that she is now the Nike girl is because she entered herself into a competition. She, she has a, like, a bionic leg. I don't really know what all the right terms are there, but she's, she, she was trying to do a.

Lesley Logan 27:54  

Looks like a thrust, a clean.

Brad Crowell 27:57  

Yeah, she was trying to do a clean with a barbell, right, and. 

Lesley Logan 28:00  

That's hard with two legs, I'm just gonna be really honest, and she has one leg that doesn't really bend like her other leg does, so, yeah. 

Brad Crowell 28:06  

So she, so she, she's in the middle of a stadium with all these people, everyone's watching. There's, like, you know, all the things, and she's being filmed, and she doesn't know she's being filmed, and she, she fails. She fails. She like, gets it halfway up and just can't go and drops the bar. And she's frustrated with herself, she's like, okay. 

Lesley Logan 28:24  

She's also starting to cry and really emotional. 

Brad Crowell 28:27  

So she, she drops the bar. Well, she leans back over. She's like, all right, I got it. She, you literally can see her say shit, you know, on this video, right? And, and there's no audio to it, but she's like, shit. So she leans over, and she tries again and she fails again, and it's this point that she, like, totally breaks. Obviously, she's been frustrated all day long, and she breaks, and she literally starts crying, and she and it's super emotional, right? And she leans over and she like, puts her head on her arms, and she, you could see herself make the decision, I'm not going to quit here. I'm going to get this, through this even though I probably have disqualified myself already from whatever this competition is, because I didn't get it up on the first try, I didn't get it up on the second try, and she tries a third time, and she succeeds. And it is like this heartfelt, amazing experience. And I, I have to imagine that she is more proud of herself for finishing, completing it, for being just making the decision to stay with it, than she was, you know, than, obviously, she quit, she would, she'd be beating herself up. 

Lesley Logan 29:40  

Well and I think first of all, I got chills and emotional just like thinking about it, because I like, every time I watch, I've watched it multiple times. And trust me, you guys, she's on a list of like, okay, I gotta email her publicist. I gotta get her on the pod. I have so many questions. But everyday, I talk to women who are beating themselves up for how little they've done, that they think they've done, which, by the way, is more than most people will do in a day, right? And it.

Brad Crowell 30:08  

Specially moms. 

Lesley Logan 30:08  

Frustrates me, because none, never have you ever shamed yourself into doing the thing you said you were going to do. It doesn't work. That is not how our brains work. Our brains avoid shame and judgment. It doesn't feel good, it doesn't bring your dopamine up. It's not what motivates your brain to do shit. And so we have to do some FOMO, figuring out myself, figuring my own self out, and start congratulating ourselves we did fucking five minutes. You know, like, first of all, if you don't, no one else is. No one else is going to come up and congratulate you on things that they don't know have happened and they won't know have happened. That's why we do the FYFs. And it is, do you know how many people won't share their wins? I don't want to share, it's so small. Okay, but you do understand that that's going to inspire someone else. So, anyways, be nice to yourself. Get the FOMO.

Brad Crowell 31:02  

Be nice to yourself. 

Lesley Logan 31:03  

The new FOMO. 

Brad Crowell 31:06  

You know, I think that decision to stay with it, to be consistent, will, will be so much more gratifying over the long run, even if it's smaller increments than you know, whatever the prescribed amount is, or whatever that thing is, you know. So, that, I love this FOMO, I love this idea of figuring only myself out. It helps get rid of that comparison energy, you know, and create a safe space for you to succeed in, so, very cool. Very, very cool. All right, stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna cover those Be It Action Items from Stephanie O'Dea. 

Brad Crowell 31:48  

Okay, welcome back. Finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What are the bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Stephanie O'Dea? She said, hey, funny enough, I'm gonna tell you to journal, but I'm gonna tell you how to journal in a very structured way. 

Lesley Logan 32:07  

I, but I also, it's the only person I let journal, like, say journal, so.

Brad Crowell 32:12  

So it's funny because, I mean, I've heard Lesley say this about four, well, three, 250 times now, hey, if you're going to tell you know, use journaling as your, your Be It Action Item, you have to give us a structure how to do it. And she started laughing, and she said, I can do that. In fact, she has a free guided daily journaling worksheet that you can print out and you can write on if you go to stephanieodea.com/daily we will put that link in the show notes, but she's a big proponent it gives you structure. It tells you how to journal, what to journal about. It gives you prompts. But she also specifically mentioned that picking up a pen and paper, or pencil and paper, is different than typing on a computer. It just puts you in a different mindset. I mean, she's a writer, right? She got a book deal, she wrote a blog for eight years about cooking, right? She's like, constantly, constantly writing. And so she definitely would know she's the authority. She said that her tool will help you get in the right mindset. It gives you action steps, consistent, and consistency, it builds the muscle of slow, sustainable growth. And she said, your brain engages differently when writing by hand, which I think is interesting, and it helps you move towards your goals, even in off days. 

Lesley Logan 33:35  

And also, your handwriting does not have to be good for it to actually still do the thing it does with your brain. I write things down which I like, which is why I like my reMarkable tablet. I actually don't even need to look at the tablet again. I remember it, but I. 

Brad Crowell 33:48  

That's how I used to study for tests, hard copy my own notes. 

Lesley Logan 33:51  

My nails are too long now, and it's, it's really annoying to type things. I'm like, I'm trying to learn how to type with the nails that.

Brad Crowell 33:59  

Hi, buddy. Are you trying to learn how to type, too?

Lesley Logan 34:01  

Yeah, Bayon's learning how to type. He's also truly found his voice this week. He's. 

Brad Crowell 34:05  

It's pretty funny. 

Lesley Logan 34:06  

He's like, oh, I'm gonna bark at this thing. And it's like, never did. 

Brad Crowell 34:12  

Well, yeah. 

Lesley Logan 34:12  

Anyway. 

Brad Crowell 34:13  

His trip to Joshua Tree was a win. Well, you know what one thing that she said that I that I laughed about. She said, look, once you get into a routine, if something changes the routine, it's okay, because you, she said, you are not a spreadsheet. And I was like, oh, that's a really good idea.

Lesley Logan 34:37  

There's actually a whole study on, you know how, to go back to the long intro we had about politics, there's a study that shows like the more rigid your thinking is, the more likely you are to get stuck in beliefs that are not serving you. And so I'm a big habits coach, mindset coach, all those different things, but you'll notice that, like, I'm always going, giving grace. Giving lots of grace and kind of rolling with it. And I really love what she said here, because I have a morning routine and I have three hours, but, I don't have, oh, I have to be out the door at 6:01, otherwise it's, like, I just get outside. 

Brad Crowell 35:13  

Facing the ice bowl, rub the banana peel, 6:11, take the elevator from 6:17.

Lesley Logan 35:20  

Yeah, yeah. 

Brad Crowell 35:21  

So dumb. 

Lesley Logan 35:22  

Right? I don't live like that. I do have and I post my schedule of the day with my outfit of the day. I'm like, here's my outfit and here's the schedule. And it might look rigid, but you have to understand, like, most of the things on there take 20 minutes, but I gave it the full hour so that I can be flexible. I can, I can roll with it. If I need to have a little bit more time with something, if I want to take a longer walk, I can. If I have longer Pilates, I take a shorter walk. And so by not being rigid, allows my habits and routines be very malleable and to serve me and what I need that day. And I think that's really important. We're not a spreadsheet. Okay, there's so many, you guys have to listen to the episode because I'm, she actually gave us so many Be It Action Items, to be honest. So I'm just gonna take a few. Celebrate your process, even if it's not linear. We actually have talked about that 17 times on this episode already today. So you celebrate your process, even if, it won't be linear, it is impossible. It never is, don't, you don't have to read the book. Go look at the cover of the book, called The Middle. The Messy Middle. It's bright yellow. When you see the graph, that graph of it going up down, up down, up down. It's like a heart rate monitor, and it's going up, but it's always going up, even though it might go down way lower than it did. And it goes up, Brad's looking at it right now, down, up, down. But like.

Brad Crowell 36:34  

It's not even a graph. It's like a squiggly line that goes in a square, in a circle and a triangle. 

Lesley Logan 36:38  

Yeah, but if you take a bigger picture, it goes to the end. It's always going up. It's like the stock market. The stock market is not linear on the app, it goes up and down, up and down, up and down. But guess what? It always ends up. It's up, right? So hopefully, I don't know what it is today, guys. Anyways, she also said, use gold stars, stickers or a visible chart to track your small wins. Yes, it's a behavior from childhood, charts from childhood, but it's very important. You need to see it visibly. And then she said, choose non-food rewards, like a cozy nap or a pedicure or something like that. Like the things that you feel like are indulgent and you would never do, those should be your rewards. Make a list of them. That's what my therapist really had me do. And then she also reminded us, you can absolutely get to where you want to go, but you have to trust in yourself that you can do that and you'll get there when you get there. I'm Lesley Logan. 

Brad Crowell 37:29  

And I'm Brad Crowell. 

Lesley Logan 37:29  

Thank you so much for listening. What a longer recap we had today. We were very chatty, so we hope you enjoyed it. Send your questions and your wins in we want to celebrate them. And we want to answer your questions. So beitpod.com/questions and then make sure you share this episode with a friend, especially the Slow Living episode, because Stephanie has, obviously, so many great tips. She is amazing. And check out her journaling prompts. I know I am. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. 

Brad Crowell 37:53  

Bye for now. 

Lesley Logan 37:55  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.

Brad Crowell 38:37  

It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 38:42  

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Brad Crowell 38:47  

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Lesley Logan 38:54  

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Brad Crowell 38:57  

Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.

Brad Crowell 39:12  

Now, welcome back. Welcome back. I hope you're loving life. Welcome back. Let's start that again.

Lesley Logan 39:19  

He's just waiting for me to smile.

Brad Crowell 39:21  

I was, I was, my, my mind did a little loop there. All right, welcome back.

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In this episode, Lesley Logan talks with Stephanie O'Dea—New York Times bestselling author, viral blogger, and now a slow living coach—about what it really means to live intentionally. From building a wildly successful crockpot recipe blog to burning out on hustle culture, Stephanie shares how tuning in, slowing down, and redefining success helped her create a life she actually wants to live. This is a must-listen for anyone who's tired of chasing someone else's version of success and ready to start trusting themselves again.

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In this episode you will learn about:

• How Stephanie’s slow cooker challenge became a bestselling brand.
• Why she walked away from hustle culture to embrace slow living.
• How redefining success helped her build a life she actually enjoys.
• Why slow living isn’t about doing less, but about doing what matters.
• How to release guilt and build intentional routines aligned with your values. 

Episode References/Links:

• Stephanie O’Dea’s Website - https://stephanieodea.com
• Free Daily Journaling Worksheet - stephanieodea.com/daily
• Stephanie O’Dea’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/stephanieodea
• Stephanie O’ Dea Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/StephanieODea.author
• Slow Living Book by Stephanie O'Dea - https://a.co/d/dK5en1y
• Slow Living Podcast - https://stephanieodea.com/podcast
• Gretchen Rubin’s Four Tendencies by Gretchen Rubin - https://a.co/d/gQ5ToVp

Guest Bio:

Stephanie O’Dea is a New York Times bestselling author, speaker, and coach specializing in Slow Living. With a background in social work, early childhood education, and trauma-informed yoga, she offers a holistic approach to wellness. Through her books, coaching, and Slow Living podcast, Stephanie helps people slow down, reconnect with their purpose, and create sustainable balance. Her latest book, Slow Living: Cultivating a Life of Purpose in a Hustle-Driven World, reflects her mission. She lives in the San Francisco Bay Area with her husband, three daughters, and a basset hound named Sheldon.

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Episode Transcript:

Stephanie O'Dea 0:00  

Slow is simply look only within and it's the idea that you actually have the answers, and you don't need to be saved. You don't need bro culture or internet marketers to tell you what you should be doing. If you're slow and calm, the answers kind of bubble up.

Lesley Logan 0:19  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 1:01  

Hey, Be It babe, how are you? Okay, I promise you you've never heard about a living like this before, and our guest today is like the queen of what she does. I'm gonna let her tell you what she does, but I'm gonna tell you right now, I wanna live next to this woman. I want her to be my neighbor. I want her to be a friend that I can just call. I am going to save this episode just so I can hear the end of it over and over and over again, especially on the days that I need to hear it. You guys, Stephanie O'Dea is our guest today, and if you think that name sounds familiar, it's because it will. You'll hear about that in a second. And I am just so obsessed. This interview is kind of one of the reasons why I'm like, oh my god. I love that I get to do this podcast. I am feel like the luckiest girl in the world, because I get to learn from these amazing guests, and then I get to share that with you. And so y'all, buckle up, take a deep breath, slow down. This episode is gonna rock your world in the best way. 

Lesley Logan 1:58  

All right, Be It babe. This is gonna be really exciting. I think we've never had this topic before. I'm always interested when there's something new, a new way for us to be it till we see it. And today's guest is Stephanie O'Dea. Can you tell us, everyone, who you are and what you rock at?

Stephanie O'Dea 2:11  

Absolutely, I'm Stephanie O'Dea, and I write, coach, teach and speak about all things slow living. 

Lesley Logan 2:18  

Okay, right. 

Stephanie O'Dea 2:20  

I know. I promise I'm not just sitting on the couch, twiddling my thumbs, eating Bonbons, doing nothing. I promise there's a method to the madness. 

Lesley Logan 2:28  

Yeah, obviously we're all intrigued, like, what is slow living? But maybe we need to know what that is before we can figure out how you got to doing slow living. So we're also on the same page, yeah.

Stephanie O'Dea 2:38  

Yeah. So I look at slow living as meeting your goals, all of them, your personal and your professional goals, in a slow, steady and sustainable way. And if we can circle and highlight and underline and put some pointers at sustainable, that's what it's at. Because I think we all know the feeling of being gung-ho. And I'm going to do this now, and I'm gonna eat this way, and I'm gonna work out this way, and I'm gonna get up at at 3 a.m. and I'm gonna have rock star abs at the end of the week. 

Lesley Logan 3:09  

Oh yeah. 

Stephanie O'Dea 3:09  

Yeah. And spoiler alert, if you're listening, chances are you're a human and not a robot. And well, who knows, the robots may be taking over, but in real life, people have ups and downs and all arounds and variables they can't control. So slow living, first off, has an acronym attached to it. I'm a super nerd when it comes to acronyms, and that's because my grandpa, when I was about seven, told me that the word SNAFU had the F word hiding in it, so it's situation normal, all effed up, like he told me, he told me, when I was seven, he actually said that, the bad word out loud. And I'm like, grown ups hide bad words in regular words. And so, like, since then, I've nerded out with acronyms. So slow living, slow is simply look only within and it's the idea that you actually have the answers, and you don't need to be saved. You don't need bro culture or internet marketers to tell you what you should be doing. If you're slow and calm, the answers kind of bubble up. So it's a big part of listening to your inner voice, to your inner gut, to your intuition, and then taking action on it. So the three-step success formula is mindset plus action plus consistency equals success. And so the new, yeah, the new book is broken up that way. And the idea is, when you're in a good mood, just ask yourself, like, what's the next best step for me to take? And then go quiet and listen, because you know the answer is inside. The answer is not going to be on a doom stroll of TikTok. It's legit inside of you, and you know what you're supposed to do. And then just do the thing over and over and over again, and even when you don't want to. 

Lesley Logan 5:03  

I love this so much because I love that you put consistency in there. The only way to be consistent is if you actually are at a pace that you can consistently do. We were in Singapore the other day. I picked a bike taxi and the car, I was trying to figure out what's going on because the guy was driving the car, it would go, whoo. You know where your whole body moves like someone's taking off too fast at a red light, and then it would slow down, and then it would go like that again. And was like, literally for 16 minutes, the body was going like this, and like this, and like this. We were on the freeway, but I felt like urgency to leave the intersection, and then a hard -ish break but not a full break. And I got a headache. I got sick. Brad felt nauseous. I was like, I hope we don't get that cab going to dinner. Like, I cannot be in that car again. That's the idea of you can't be consistent at a pace like that, because you can't, your body doesn't do well, your brain doesn't do well. And so being consistent is so key to having the things that we want. But I also love you add, like, listening to yourself, because it's really hard to do that when you're kind of going too fast, like, you don't have time when everything is chaotic. How did you get into doing this? Like, were you born working slow? 

Stephanie O'Dea 6:07  

No, no, I'll tell you my back story, but I got to tell you, my mom drives that way, and now my kids don't want to get in the car with her. They're like, I always feel sick when I drive with grandma so. 

Lesley Logan 6:17  

Okay, so there's, I literally was looking at his leg. I'm like, is he doing this, or does he is it like the car is like, oh, there's a car that's too close. Like, I don't, could not figure out what's going on. 

Stephanie O'Dea 6:26  

I think my mom is full acceleration, and then foot off, and then full acceleration, and then foot off. And there's a happy medium there. So what's interesting about my backstory is I got started writing online crock pot recipes, crock pot slow cooker recipes. 

Lesley Logan 6:42  

Okay, I definitely was wondering if slow living meant, like, like, slow cooker. 

Stephanie O'Dea 6:46  

Yeah, so, so, yeah. So, I'm very Google-able, but I got my start in 2008 because I made a New Year's resolution to follow through on using my crock pot slow cooker every day for a year and writing about it online. And it, it took off. It went viral. 

Lesley Logan 7:02  

I've heard of you. You are Google-able.

Stephanie O'Dea 7:07  

Yeah. So, when (inaudible) funny, because 2008 depending on how old you are when you're listening, that could sound like a long time ago or not that long time ago, but at the time it legit, was the first crock pot recipe site written by like a normal person, and it went crazy. I made yogurt. I invented, like, quote-unquote, invented lots of things, and because of that, I ended up on national television multiple times. Good Morning America, Rachel Ray Show did all the magazines and got a book deal. It worked great. At its peak, it was making $1,000 a day just in banner ads, and it was amazing. So the good news is is I understand mathing and I understand the Internet, so I knew what goes up must eventually come down. And so that absolutely did in about 2016 with the Instant Pot. And so my book publishers and agent, they're like, you should translate all your recipes. So I bought one, and I hated the thing. I get it. The tech part is fun. Yay for the scientists for discovering that they can cook a frozen chicken in 45 minutes. But for me, what I liked about the crock pot is I could put it on the morning, I'm highly caffeinated and coherent, I push a button and then I never think about dinner again. So it eliminated a whole bunch of decision fatigue, and it just was lovely, because cooking is great, but I'm not going to get a Zen moment chopping an onion. I'm just not. Some people are, great, no, but for me, it's a chore. 

Lesley Logan 8:41  

I see you. You are seen.

Stephanie O'Dea 8:44  

Yeah. So anyway, I got fired. I got fired, and I had this like, sort of voice of God, of like, hey Steph, just because you can do something fast, it doesn't mean you should. And so I spent some time away from the internet, I sort of unplugged everything for a while. And one really lovely, amazing thing about passive income is even when you're not working, it works for you. So I was in a very privileged state that I could kind of pontificate what the next best step for me to take was, and I realized that following through on my resolution, following through on all of the goals that I've always had for myself has been my secret sauce. Writing crock pot recipes was really just a way to feed the internet. And so that's how the slow living podcast got started, and how I started working with women from all over the world to help them meet their goals in a slow, steady and sustainable way.

Lesley Logan 9:40  

I'm obsessed with this because I think it's because here's what I love about this. I was like, Oh, I wonder if slow living means, like, slow cooker. And then I was, I don't even use my Instapot. Do you see how, like, I put the two together, even though they're not. Thank you for educating me. I clearly.

Stephanie O'Dea 9:52  

Gold stars, Lesley, gold stars. 

Lesley Logan 9:53  

I am not the person who cooks in this household. I think that's pretty evident. I was just like, oh. And then I but I was reading all the stuff and I was like, oh, but, like, we're talking about goals, and I'm like, totally in on this, how this works. So, but I love that the intuitiveness was there, so that's really great. But the other reason I love this is that you are the perfect example of how you get started and what you have done in the past. That's not that it has to ever end, but also that you can evolve from it. And it doesn't have to be like the next pie over, which is the Instant Pot. It could be like all the way on the other side of the pie and be like something that's different, but they're not. They're the same. 

Stephanie O'Dea 10:27  

No, absolutely I and it's funny. So I have three kids, and I'm constantly telling them like you are your own person, in your own entity. Sure, Dad and I might have ideas for you, but you get to decide. And every year, people get so excited about New Year's resolutions and different things and the idea that they can reinvent themselves, and then they have the first few dismissive thoughts of, well, I can't do that, or, Oh, this is too hard. And so then they give up. And the fact is, if we're lucky, life is long. Sure, you could get hit by a bus tomorrow, but don't live your life thinking that instead, where are you going to be in your 50s, your 60s and your 70s? I mean, I work with women of all ages and stages. If you want to crawl around on the floor in your 70s with your grandchildren and do yoga and have, I don't know, prize-winning tulips. Start now. Start setting the stage now, and plant those metaphoric seeds to get you from where you are to where you want to go

Lesley Logan 11:29  

You are correct. As a Pilates instructor, one of the things that people like when should I get started? I'm like, well, yesterday was a better day, but that's fine, we'll start now. Because I've had people come to me at 70 going, I'm in aches and pains. I've got this thing, and now I've got a hump on my back, and I'm like, so the time to prevent the hump was like, 20 years ago. So there's not much I can do now that you're in that position, but here's what I can do to keep you upright so you can play with your grandchildren. And people don't realize, and they wait until they realize they weren't hit by a bus earlier, and then they're like, now it changes. And that's not that it's ever too late, but there's just some things that if we got started sooner and when we went more consistently, we went more slowly, we took our time handling the obstacles and the setbacks and reevaluating that we would actually get to where we wanted to go, I guess, faster.

Stephanie O'Dea 12:15  

So it's true. I mean, it's legit. The metaphor of the tortoise and the hare just slow, steady and stay on track. And so that's why I like that mindset, action, consistency formula is when you're in a good mood, don't make up rules for yourself when you're in a bad mood, because you're just punishing yourself. But when you're in a good mood, decide what the next steps are, and a lot of it is putting blinders on and not worrying about what other people are doing. So if you're listening to this right now and you're thinking, well, Lesley got to be in Singapore last week, and I'm wasn't in Singapore last week, and my life sucks. So okay, you are playing your own game. So again, because I am such an acronym junkie, I rewrote FOMO to figure only myself out you play your game, and if Singapore is not in your cards right now, okay, great, but maybe put it on a vision board and maybe start saving and start pivoting to have that come to fruition. But it doesn't mean you've done anything wrong if you never had the thought like six or eight months ago or a year ago when Lesley decided to go to Singapore, you weren't there yet. So if you're there now, okay, great, start pivoting and make that way. And same with the hump on your back. If you're like, oh, okay, I do want to be that person in my 70s. But actually really like my nightly wine, and I like doom scrolling, and I caught up on all of the seasons of younger and now I don't know what to do with myself. Okay, then, then go do some stretches and start working on it in a very slow, steady and sustainable way. 

Lesley Logan 13:55  

You're absolutely correct. And I have a funny story about the Singapore thing. You guys, normally, when we fly to Cambodia for our retreat, we always choose the shortest. Doesn't everybody, when you want to go, you want to get to where you want to go when you're traveling. So it's like the shortest. Well, ever since the pandemic and the way the flight paths have changed, it has been twice as much to fly to Cambodia as it usually is, and it irritates me, because I know it's not that expensive. Double is not the right price. So my assistant presented like three options, and the two shortest options were $1,500 per person, round trip, 23 hours of travel, still a lot, still full day, exhausting. But then there was a flight that was 31 hours of travel. It was $500 cheaper per person, and it had a 13 hour layover in Singapore. And in Singapore, you can leave the airport. You can apply for the day visa. It's so easy to do. You do it online. And we were landing in time to go to dinner, and I was like, wouldn't it be cool to go to Singapore for dinner? And here's the thing you guys, it wasn't about saving $500 it was about enjoying the trip to Cambodia. Because I'm like, this is I don't I'm so tired of being tired when I get there. And so I thought, let's just see what it's like. Instead of having six hours, which is not enough time to leave an airport and just walk, do laps in the airport, what if we had 13 and we went to dinner and we slept in a hotel and then we got up and we flew the next place? You guys. I loved it. I loved it. I had two on the way into Cambodia. I did dinner in Singapore on the way out. We did dinner in Singapore. Fabulous. I felt like it was so luxurious. It felt so it felt so it felt like I was like a first class traveler. So anyways, that's my share on evaluating doing things a little differently. Your FOMO, like, figure my own self out. I'm tired when I get there. What? What can I do? So that's my little tip there. But I want to highlight that you said, make the decisions when you're in a good mood, because you're correct. People are punishing themselves when they're like, you don't feel good, you feel exhausted, you hate your job, and then you're like, I'm gonna do this. And it's like, it is a punishment. I never thought about it like that. 

Stephanie O'Dea 15:49  

Yeah, no, it's true. I mean, and especially since you're in the fitness realm, the idea of, I'm gonna force myself to do this workout every day, no matter what, with the idea that if I skip a day because I'm sick or I don't feel well, or the toilet overflowed, or the kid had a bloody nose in the middle of the night, I failed. No, no. So I tell people all the time, if you're embarking on a 30-day challenge and it takes you 45 days to do the 30 days, you're not graded, you're not to be in trouble, you're the grown up in the room. You only fail when you completely and totally decide to give up. But but keep going and think of yourself at, again, as that 70 year old, you would be way more proud of yourself for keeping going, even if you have to take a day off here and there. And that's a big part of the sustainability, part of slow living. 

Lesley Logan 16:48  

During the pandemic. I got really interested in, like, some people create habits, and how do they not I don't know if you've read Gretchen Rubin's Four Tendencies, like having meet expectations. So I thought, well, I'm an upholder. That's easy for me. But what about the rest of the people? As a fitness person who wants people to move, and I always tell people do what's possible. Finishing is optional. Why aren't they listening? Why can't they listen and what's going on? And I got to sit at BJ Fogg, and he talked about these tiny habits. And it's crazy to see how people legitimately cannot do the tiny habit. They actually are like, it's not enough to just put my shoes on. It's like, but you don't go to the gym now. So you're asking yourself to put out the gym clothes early. Pack a gym bag, get everything on, drive to the gym, find a parking space, enter the gym, put the bag in a locker, do the work of oh, you forgot your towel, so now you're gonna be late for work. Otherwise, now you have to leave early, and it's just all we're asking ourselves to do such huge leaps and bounds before we've actually created the ability to do that consistently, and then we fail ourselves. And it's like even when you went to school, you didn't get the F until the end of this the whole semester to get a better grade.

Stephanie O'Dea 17:57  

Yeah, no, it's true. I mean, when people come to me with those kind of obstacles. First off, I definitely have squirrel brain. I have lots and lots and lots of markers of ADHD. And every time I talk to anyone, because I can talk myself well, I write and I speak so I know how to talk to people. And they're like, you don't have ADHD. I'm like, that's fine. Just, just help me, but, but the only reason I found out is I've got one in grad school, and so she's applying for law school, and so needing to sit for the LSATs and that kind of stuff. All of these things came up. I'm like, there's nothing wrong with you. You're just like me. And I'm like, oh, wait.

Lesley Logan 18:33  

Right, right. 

Stephanie O'Dea 18:34  

But anyway, as far as that, when I'm working with people who can't break things down in a bite-sized chunk, and they get overwhelmed. Or halfway through the assignment, they're already moved on to something else. We gamify the system. And so earlier, when I gave you gold stars, I legit hand out gold stars if you did something, give yourself a sticker, like, like those old school chore charts on the wall where you're giving yourself a happy face absolutely pay off and then reward yourself. Maybe not if you're trying to do a fitness routine, maybe not with like a hot fudge sundae, but maybe with a pedicure, or maybe with an afternoon off work for no reason except for you want to take a really cozy Bougie nap, and you you have your your weighted throw, and then you're just so happy. That is a reward, and that's something that you can look forward to, but definitely game the system. 

Lesley Logan 19:33  

Yeah, I love gamify. I love a reward, or like something tactical that you can do, like some sort of celebration. But I also want to highlight hi, I also was someone who didn't think that ADHD, and I was like, oh, my husband, my husband has ADHD, right? Because that's where all the symptoms. And he, like, is legit, like, model of a male with ADHD. And we were applying for a business license, type of a thing, like some sort of certificate, and the woman who files the paperwork, I met her, and so we're talking, and she like, okay, you have your women in business certification I'm like, yeah, we've got that. She's like, okay, where's your disability certificate? And I'm like, I'm so sorry I don't have a disability. And she goes, Well, you have ADHD. And I was like, oh, my husband does, but I own the business for the women in business owners, so I don't have she's like, no. She's like, you just haven't been tested girl. You have ADHD. I can see all of it. And I started looking up women signs of ADHD. I absolutely have it, so I'm with you, and we forget how we figured out how we can make our lives work. And so I just want to highlight to anyone listening, if you have ADHD, and that's a reason why it's a problem for you to, like, finish the thing you've started. There is a superpower that you can tap into once you acknowledge it and like you look into how can you work best for yourself? And it's, it is not through punishment ever. 

Stephanie O'Dea 20:47  

Yeah, no, it's, it's celebrating your process. So because I'm a writer, this is the 11th book I've written, I know my process, so I no longer beat myself up. I know for a fact I don't miss deadlines, so that's great news for me, but I also know that I'm not linear. I am up and down and all around and if I have a brainstorm at 3am it's better for me to get up and write any of those how to be a successful published author checklists that they show on the internet for clickbait. That's not me, and that's not really any of us. That's marketing hype that's trying to get you to click. If you've been online long enough I'm certain you have clicked on something only because you were feeling a little anxious, maybe a little vulnerable, and you're like, oh, the answers to my prayer. But the fact is, the answers are inside and with you. And it's not going to come from doom scrolling TikTok. It's going to come when you're calm and you're in a good mood and you're like, okay, I am not feeling the best right now. Not going to gaslight myself. I legit do not feel good in my brain and my body right now. What is the next best step for me to take and then going quiet and then doing what it is, chances are your brain is going to say you need more water, you need to cut back on wine. You need to stay away from Jane down the street, because she makes you feel really shitty. Can I say shitty? Sorry.

Lesley Logan 22:19  

No, I love it. We love it. And, yeah, stay away from Jane. 

Stephanie O'Dea 22:23  

Yeah, no, just like you, you know, you know. And I get it because, I mean, I met Lesley online. We're all trying to carve our own little niche out. But the thing is, is you're more vulnerable and you're more susceptible to following advice made up by, by stupid businessy. I'm gonna say men, just for lack of a better term, bro marketers, when you're feeling down on yourself. 

Lesley Logan 22:50  

Yeah, it's really interesting, because I, just before I came on this I had a YouTube comment, and it was on a video that was like the best Reformers to buy for home, and I, look, I hate the title because it's that clickbaity title, but I promised myself, okay, I have to do the titles that they want, because these are the things that people will click on. But I can be honest, right? And so I was completely honest about how I don't love the Reformers that are $300 because I know that a quality Reformer costs $4,800 why do they cost $4,800 because they're not made of plastic, because they're made of metal, they're made of wood. It takes, it takes a long time to make them. And they last decades, right? They last decades. And these cheaper ones, while they look very similar to the ones you're seeing in studios, I don't know what the weight requirements are. I don't know if you can stand on them and they have, I don't know that they have the same safety mechanism. So then you're going to take my classes or someone else's classes, and, like, I don't know. So I was very clear of like, here's what I would say. So it ended with, there is not an affordable one. Like, it just isn't. But here are all the things you can do. So this person wrote, okay, so great, so just don't give me a cheaper option so that I could modify the exercises to do the thing. And she was on and on, and she was so angry with me that I wouldn't give her a cheap one to buy. So I actually wrote back right away, because I was like, so you need a car. You need a car that can get you to work, and the car that would be the best gas mileage for you, that would not require any maintenance, it actually has the best safety standards. It's outside of your budget right now. So instead, you would like me to sell you a car that gets the worst gas mileage, that needs maintenance every week, that breaks down on you on your way to work. And so instead of actually getting to work on time, you're now taking the bus anyways, when you could have just waited and taken the bus in the first place until you could afford the car that has the best gas all these things. I'm so sorry I refuse to sell you crap, and I know that's frustrating, but no, I don't want you modifying exercises to make the equipment, because then you're not gonna get the benefits. It just makes me think of this stuff like people. Have gotten to this place that now have gotten so they've now been trained so much by the clickbait they want to be sold the quick, fast thing, but that's not gonna get what you want. So I'm not gonna sell it to you. And it's really, really hard because I you and I are people like we want to be honest with people on the internet. I want a relationship with you whenever I tell you that this is the right thing, that you can trust that it's the right thing. And it's really hard in a world everyone's go so fast they want the thing today, and they'll rather buy the cheap thing than the thing that will get them there. How do you get people out of wanting it quickly? I guess we can help people who don't want to be helped. 

Stephanie O'Dea 25:35  

Yeah. So, so we're recording right now, and I know you are captivating the the video. So this is a standard bedroom that happens to have cabinetry filled filled with crock pots, by the way. But on the other side of the room, I have a framed print, and it says, discipline is just choosing between what you want now and what you want most. And that's the thing. Slow your roll, peeps, slow your roll and have a little bit of discipline. We teach children that patience is a virtue. Practice that be that there's a reason why Buddhist monks and people who meditate a lot and do lots of yoga and meditation are calmer is because they have quieted their squirrel brain, and they have delayed gratification enough to know that while sitting in a meditative stance for 10, 20, 30 minutes isn't as quick as a fix as I don't know, taking some drug or down and a half bottle of Wine, but the end goal, if you do it over and over and over again, is so much better. So I'm going to repeat it. Discipline is choosing between what you want now versus what you want most, and keep that most in your mind when you are scrolling, so then you can have that thought of great for them, not for me, right? Great for them, good everyone's everyone is allowed to make money. Everyone's allowed to make money. Great for them. Good for them. They're, they're gaming the algorithm. Good for them, good for them, good for them, not for me. And then now, now I'm going to coach you for a second, Lesley, because I think you're adorbs. I too, get the click bait thing. I know how to play the game. I know when I was writing recipes that it would be way better for me to say this is the world's easiest and best pot roast recipe you'll ever have, better than your grandma blah blah blah. And the fact is pot roast is pot roast, is pot roast, is pot roast. And if you put in paprika versus liquid smoke or blah blah blah, it doesn't really truly matter in the great, big, huge scheme of things. But the hope is you get someone to click, and then that someone gets to know you and see your video and read your writing and connect with you and say, Okay, I get what Lesley is doing here. It's fine. I'm going to cut her some slack. And that's another great, big thing that I would love for us to do online is to remember that there are real humans there, and give people the gift of grace. And sometimes we mess up. I messed up, and the hope is that when I do, I apologize and I acknowledge it, and then I try and better myself. If I don't try and better myself, that's where the problem is, and that's where the disconnect is, and that's not you. You are amazing. 

Lesley Logan 28:26  

Yeah. Well, thank you, and thank you for seeing me, and it is so interesting world out there that we live in. I like to think that everyone's doing it the best way that they can when they know how, you know, I would give that grace, and I think that the more of us who could do that would be the world be a better place. But I think that, you know, we have to just keep doing it. And I agree, like, when we all make mistakes and it's like you get to apologize, and if people can't accept that, it's almost better that they we find out now so they can go away.

Stephanie O'Dea 28:53  

Totally. It's funny. I'm intolerant now to people who can't own mistakes and apologize and so so again, back to my crazy ego. My crazy acronyms. The acronym for ego is Edging God Out. And regardless of your religious belief, the idea that you are the Almighty and know everything and aren't humble and don't have enough humility to acknowledge a mistake is a big problem. So so check your ego. Just check it, because everybody's shit stinks. They really do.

Lesley Logan 29:26  

I'm obsessed with you already. You mentioned stopping the scroll a few times, and I think that that is definitely a hard problem for a lot of people, like even people who don't even have to post on the internet for a job. My mom does not have to post on the internet at all, and she but she has a scrolling problem, right? And I even, because I have to open up and talk to the people and respond to comments and all that stuff, I found myself yesterday picking up my phone after the end of the workday to go check and I was like, hold on, I'm not working right now. And I had to, like, literally, put my phone across the room and pick up a book instead. And I was like, what would make reading this book more pleasurable? I liked it all the things, you know, heard different guests say, oh, I'll make it more pleasurable if I was sitting in front my red light. Okay, I'll sit from my red light. I'm gonna do this thing. And I read a book for like, 45 minutes. It was so lovely. It felt so good. I went to bed. I slept so good last night because I did not scroll. But I think it's an addiction that people have to just pick up when they're bored. So how do you stop your scroll? 

Stephanie O'Dea 30:22  

Yeah, so, so first off, you are definitely not alone, and I've been working online for probably a lot longer than you are, because I'm probably a lot older than you are. So one thing I needed to do for myself, and this is only for people who work online, probably is it's not on my phone. My phone is for phone stuff, and work stays work stays on the computer. So and for me, social media is work. It's not pleasurable. It's not fun. In real life, I want to talk to my friends on the phone, text with my friends in real life. So there's that. And then as far as normal, regular, everyday people who have the old school FOMO, and think that they will miss out on staff, schedule it in, time block it. So I'm a huge proponent of time blocking, and the way I teach it is to decide, on purpose that your day is kind of set up like a school day. So think back in high school you are not going to finish your history book in first period. You're just not but the good news is, you'll have first period every day, so schedule in what it is you want to do every day, so you don't have that feeling of having to catch up, because spoiler alert, you will never catch up on social media, they have designed it to be never, ever, ever ending. But if your allotted amount of time, and my suggestion, would be in 10-minute chunks. 10 minutes, set a timer. Love bossing Siri around. She will just set timers for me all day long, and then scroll, do what it is you need to do, and then step away with the idea that it's going to be okay, because you're going to revisit this time block again tomorrow, and it's fine. 

Lesley Logan 32:01  

Oh my gosh. Stephanie O'Dea, I just, I love you, and I love that. I love that permission. Like, it's not like, don't do it. Or it's not like, only you get five minutes a day. It's like, oh, just schedule a few 10-minute blocks. And it's true. You guys walk around this house at any moment. Brad is like, Siri, set a timer for seven minutes, Siri, remind me to do this tomorrow like. 

Stephanie O'Dea 32:24  

I love Siri. I So, so first off, I love the idea of a live-in personal helper. So the fact is that she's in my back pocket all the time is amazing and and I'm very nice to her in case the robots do take over the world. I thank her. Yeah, tell her she's pretty Yeah, just in case you never know. 

Lesley Logan 32:41  

You are better than I. Brad was talking to my Siri the other day, and he was connected to my phone, and he was like, hey Siri, and he's like, she started answering like I told her to fuck off the other day, and she's not come back. So I think that's my fault. You know, when, like, she wasn't understanding me, she kept talking when I wasn't winder and I was just like, fuck off, and she never came back. So I, I don't know. I don't know. 

Stephanie O'Dea 33:06  

Okay, so does that mean you have to, like, go back in the settings and actually turn her back on?

Lesley Logan 33:09  

I think so. I think that's where we're at. There's an update that's gonna happen tonight. I'm hoping she goes back. At any rate.

Stephanie O'Dea 33:18  

If she's listening to me right now. I love you, Siri. I'm like, thank you. You're fine.

Lesley Logan 33:23  

They are and you are correct. I need to be nicer, because the robots are going to take over, and hopefully they just give us permission to keep doing what we love. All right. I could talk to you for hours, but we're gonna take a brief break and then find out how people can find you, follow you and work with you. 

Lesley Logan 33:38  

All right, Stephanie O'Dea, where do you hang out? Where can people just become a more obsessed with you?

Stephanie O'Dea 33:44  

So I'm a real person. You can email me at any time, and I will write back to you, [email protected], that's the main site is stephanieodea.com. I do have a slow living podcast, and the new book is called Slow Living: Cultivating a Life of Purpose in a Hustle-Driven World, and that's wherever books are sold. 

Lesley Logan 34:02  

Oh my God, I'm gonna read it. I'm so excited. I feel like, so blessed that we all got to talk like, even think about this and your acronyms are amazing. They're, I mean, you know that already, but they are amazing. And I know several listeners who, because I, I'm lucky enough to get to meet our listeners all the time, and they mention different episode numbers and like, I know this is one that they're going to use, because there's such tangible things that they can do to just take time to listen their body and do what's next? What's the best next thing? You've given us a lot, but you know, we love the the Be It Action Items, the bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted, steps people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us? 

Stephanie O'Dea 34:40  

So it's interesting. Before we hit record you were talking about, don't tell people to journal unless you like, tell them how to journal. So I have a guided daily journaling worksheet, and you can download it. It's super, super free, stephanieodea.com/daily D- A-I-L-Y and and people write to me and they're like. I don't do anything else except for this worksheet, and what it does is it helps, again, get you in the right mindset, because it's putting you in a good mood because you're journaling, and then it's helping you move forward on all of your personal and professional goals. So the action steps and then doing it every day, using that muscle creates the consistency that you need for success. 

Lesley Logan 35:19  

So the reason I say I tell guests like, please don't tell them to not journal, because some people say just journal every day. And then I get what do I journal? The reason I know that this is true is because my therapist had told me back in 2020 when I started therapy, I was like, think this is going to be a really long time that we're doing this, so I think I'm going to need to do some therapy. And she said, okay, I want you to journal every day. So the next week I got on, I was like, so what was I supposed to put in the journal? How do I start? Is it a letter? Because I'm an overthinker and a recovering perfectionist, and so I love that you are like, here is a simple worksheet that you can do to journal, because it gives people an idea of how to make the journal work for them. Because I do believe that journaling works. You just, if you don't know what you're doing, it can feel overwhelming.

Stephanie O'Dea 36:00  

Absolutely and what I like about this worksheet, and it's, it's a printable, guys, so people have tried to put it in a Google form, and that kind of stuff, your brain is different when you're using a pen and paper. And so that's why there's definitely a method to the madness. And I want you to slow down like, hello, spoiler alert, I legit, I want you to slow down. And then also you're collecting data, so you then you can look back and on the worksheet, I ask you what day or cycle you're in, because that's a big deal. So if you're like, how come I walked it last Wednesday? Well maybe it's because you were on day 15, and now you're on day 28 and you hate the world that is important, and that doesn't mean there's anything wrong with you, because you are not a spreadsheet, and anyone who says anything, and usually they're bro marketers that you have to like improve yourself by 1% every day, or you're doing it wrong. No, no, because humans have ups and downs and all around and if I can give you any parting words of wisdom, it would be that I just want to hug you and tell you that you're doing a great job and there's nothing wrong with you, and you absolutely can get to where you want to go, but you have to trust in yourself that that you can do the things and then just you'll get there when you get there. 

Lesley Logan 37:20  

I mean, I already thought this is going to be an episode that people would hit save on but, and like, replay just to re listen. But I really think they'll just do that, just for that last part right there, like you're doing a great job. Like we all need Stephanie O'Dea to tell us you're doing a great job. I love that your journal has people put the day of the cycle. Because, yes, we've been talking about that a lot, because that affects how you work out all the different things. And it is true, you are going to have days where you can take over the world, and days where you're like, I just if someone talks to me at all, I'm going to lose my mind.

Stephanie O'Dea 37:49  

Yeah, yeah. No, it's true. So I've been married 25 years, and sometimes, thankfully, I can just tell Adam. So today's not a day for you to actually engage with me. He's like, oh, okay. Thanks, thanks for the warning. You're breathing wrong today. Sorry. You fix that and circle back around.

Lesley Logan 38:11  

Yeah, I said to Brad, I said, I don't feel awesome today. He goes, it's the day before your period. You're not going to feel awesome. And I was like, thank you. That's right. That's why I married you. He didn't go, of course, you're awesome. He just was like, You're not just not gonna feel it. And it's like, yeah, thank you. Ah, okay, well, clearly I want to keep talking to you, but we'll do that another day. Stephanie O'Dea, thank you so much for being here, you guys. How are you using these tips in your life? Please, tag Stephanie. Tag the Be It Pod. Tell us how you're slow living. Share this with a friend who needs it. Imagine if all of your friends were like acting in the FOMO in the best way, and they were actually listening to themselves and taking some time. Imagine how much easier that would make your life. So share this with the friends in your life who need them. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. 

Lesley Logan 39:02  

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Brad Crowell 39:44  

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Lesley Logan 39:49  

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Brad Crowell 39:54  

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Lesley Logan 40:01  

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Brad Crowell 40:04  

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Episode Transcript:

Lesley Logan 0:00  

It's Fuck Yeah Friday. 

Fuck Yeah. 

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Hello, Be It babe. Happy June 13th. Oh my God, it's Friday the 13th. That's so exciting. I just discovered that in this moment. So you guys, I am just so excited to be doing this podcast. I've been doing the FYFs more than a year now. This podcast is growing in a beautiful way, and I've just had some amazing guests. I hope you are listening to those interviews, because they're the best. And if you like the recaps before you listen to the interviews, that's fine too. I like a little sneak peek too. I guess I should also say this is a win. But like I did, watch the White Lotus Season Three without googling what happens at the end, because I was behind. So I could have and I was like, Lesley, you will just watch it, because typically, like when I watch any shows, if I get a little anxious or nervous, I will just do that. But that's not my win. I'll have another win, but first I have to celebrate things that are inspiring me. So these Friday episodes, I share things that inspired me. I share your wins. I share a win of mine. I give you a mantra. And these could also be mantras, but we're gonna do them as wins. Like this is an inspiring thing, so I have a bunch of quotes for you from different amazing women, and then I hope that you save them for yourself. 

So, Madeleine Albright said once, there's a special place in hell for women who don't help other women. Yeah, there is a special place. Nora Ephron said, above all, be the heroine of your life, not the victim. Maya Angelou, each time a woman stands up for herself without knowing it possibly, without claiming it, she stands up for all women. Oh, that feels good. Joan Baez, you don't get to choose how you're going to die or win. You can only decide how you're going to live now. Michelle Obama, when they go low, we go high. Malala, we realize the importance of our voices only when we are silenced. Laurel Thatcher Ulrich, well-behaved women seldom make history. That is true. There's a great book about, because she caused a riot, and I just it's all about like non-well-behaved women. Ruth Bader Ginsburg, women belong in all places where decisions are being made. Unknown, here's to strong women. May we know them? May we be them? May we raise them? Aretha Franklin, be your own artist, and always be confident what you're doing. If you're not going to be confident, you might as well not be doing it. I love this series of amazing, just inspiring quotes, and like the well-behaved women seldom make history, really, truly does inspire the heck out of me. I like see it in a neon sign, and I want it in my office. And that's just because, don't you think sometimes we need reminders? I mean, I think that's probably why I like do this podcast is like, so that you can have a reminder in your ears on your commute, something that, oh, I didn't realize that's a win. That's a win. I have wins in my life. Or oh, wow, I didn't realize that that thing that they said is a Be It Action Item is actually I do that already. I think sometimes we need that outside person to say, you are doing amazing, right? I hope that this podcast can be that for you. And so I hope that those different phrases, like save one and put it on a wall and put it somewhere, stitch it, I don't know, knit it on a pillow. Obviously on how to do things, but like, just whatever one like, really helps you show up for you. Because when you show up for you, as we know from past guests, you influence the bubble that's around you. You do. 

All right, let's talk about how you can influence each other. We got some wins to share with you. Okay, I got a few from Katie Donnelly, so she's gonna be our win for the day. Katie Donnelly, she's an Agency member. She's gonna be eLevate next year. She's someone I've known since her baby was born. So now I every time her baby is a different age, I'm like, oh my God, that's how long I've known you. And she put, bought my Google workspace for my new website and email address, [email protected] baby steps. I'm sharing that with you guys, because if you need a doula, here you go. Katie Donnelly. All right, also, Katie Donnelly posted about a new prenatal reformer class in a local moms group and all of these other wonderful perinatal professionals hyped me up. You guys. I don't have the image, but she did post it, and it was just like several different women talking about how amazing Katie is. And these are like, perinatal professionals. So these are other professionals who are recognizing the, this and Katie and that had to just feel like the win in its own. But also then other women were like, oh my god, I won't be pregnant by that time. Like it just was, like, just so fun. So I really, really appreciate it. And this is like a shout out to the podcast, LL's wins on the pod this week, of loving her new nighttime routine reminded me of a win I should be celebrating. This is a nighttime routine journal my friend published. I've been doing it consistently, not perfectly, for almost nine months. It's so helpful for winding down and practicing gratitude every day. Morning routines are still a challenge for me, but at least I've got one bookend in place, and she has like, a nighttime routine journal. And there's a lot of different journals that are out there, you guys, and I'll see if we can find the one that her friend does and put it in the show notes. But if you are not a morning person, don't let that stop you from starting a nighttime routine. And I love that my win of committing to a nighttime routine reminded her that she has a win she can celebrate. That's why we do this. That's why this entire episode exists every week. Is to remind you that you probably have wins happening in your day, that you're just not celebrating, and we have to celebrate them so that we have something to combat the crap that is coming at us every day, because everything happens like you have a good thing and you have a bad thing, and sometimes we only do the bad things. But just remember there are good things happening, and they might not seem huge, but having a bookend in place to have a nighttime routine meaning you have the best night's sleep, this means that your morning is gonna be better, even if there isn't a routine to your morning like it's just gonna be better because you're great night sleep. So Katie, thank you for sharing that so you can inspire the newest listener who didn't hear my win about nighttime routines being a win. So I just love that. We can just keep that going like a domino effect going. I love it. I'm obsessed. 

Okay, so now, you guys, a win of mine. So here's the deal, we have the world's sweetest dog. The world's sweetest dog I am obsessed with, Bayon. He is nine years old, and he we got him as a puppy, and he's just so sweet, right? But you know our dog, August, who never followed any rules, caused Bayon to stop following rules, and when you have a pocket pity, he can never be bad, because people make judgments. It's kind of like the expectation you have as a woman, you mess up, you mess up for all women, somehow, that's like, the pressure. No, just me. That's like, a pity, right? Because if you ever want to, like, watch a documentary about how amazing pities are and how they are not as bad as the media likes to proclaim, watch a documentary called Beyond the Myth. It's really, really informative. Because a lot of people think they have long jaws. They don't. I think they have the toughest jaws. They don't. So anyways, Bayon has, like, never caused an issue, never caused a problem, but he stopped listening to us on walks, and so I would have to really make him not pull on my leash. Or when a dog was barking up, he would want to bark at the back of the dog, and it's like, no, that's unbecoming. Yes, that other dog was the asshole first, but you're the one who's gonna be judged. So, you know, bring it together. So anyways, we have been really working with him on this, and found a little tool, we can click, get him treats. And you guys, it's so amazing. He's so cute. He just wants to be right by our side, because it's way more fun to be by our side than it is to pull in front. And so I just want to say you can teach an old dog new tricks, and actually, we're just reminding him tricks he knows. But because of our other dog, we weren't taking him to parties and things like that. So he used to go to public places all the time. And then in the last five years, I guess I blame COVID. We stopped taking him to places. And another win is because of all his training, he went to a birthday party, a huge birthday party who knew no one at. It was loud. There was children. There was kids coming out of there, like touching his head. And Brad had to teach them all how to like this is how you meet a dog you don't know. You got to put your hand like this, calm down, so that you can always pull your fingers back if they react differently. No, don't put your hand on top of their head. No, don't grab their head. And he was just so good. He licked every stranger. He was just so great. My win is we got our dog to be the trained dog that he was already, and we got to celebrate that with him. And it's really fun, because now we can take him everywhere. We literally take him, everywhere. He goes into Costco, where those people, he went to dispensaries the other day, like he's just having the best time. And it's kind of fun to still have a dog you can literally take everywhere. You know how people take little dogs, but like, he's not a little dog, he's a 50 pound dog. And as we come up closer to our summer tour, I'm just even more excited, because he's always been so behaved in people's studios, but I know now that he listens to his naming called again. It's just gonna be a lot more fun as we go on tour and just have a lot more ease. So that's my win. We trained our dog again. Do you see how wins can be simple? They don't have to be this, like goal they've been working on for seven years. I gotta wait seven years to have a goal. No, no, that's not true. 

All right, let me get your mantra and get you on your weekend. I release the fears that do not serve me, hmm? I release the fears that do not serve me. I release the fears that do not serve me. Babe, do you do that? I hope you do. I really, really hope you do. It's just going to help you out so much better. It's going to make your life so much easier. Release the fears that don't serve you. Be afraid of falling off a cliff when you're at the edge of a cliff, but don't be afraid of falling off a cliff that doesn't exist in your life right now, right? Because it's just wasting your brain space, your beautiful brain space. It could be doing another amazing things. Thank you all so much for listening. Please share our podcast with a friend who needs to hear it, and until next time, Be It Till You See It.

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Brad Crowell 10:41  

It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 10:45  

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Brad Crowell 10:50  

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Lesley Logan 10:57  

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Brad Crowell 11:00  

Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.

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Get the inside scoop on how the OPC tours came to life, including the key role Balanced Body played in making them happen. Lesley and Brad share what it’s like to be on the road, how they stay grounded during tour season, and why reflecting after each stop matters. This episode is packed with community, purpose, and behind-the-scenes fun. Whether you’ve joined a tour before or are curious about what it’s like, you’ll love hearing what’s in store for this year.

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• How the Balanced Body partnership made the OPC tours possible.
• Highlights from past tours and how they’ve evolved.
• Navigating unexpected changes and pivots while on the road.
• The small routines that keep Lesley grounded during tour season.
• Why reflecting after each tour helps improve the next one.
• The real impact of showing up in person and building community.
• A behind-the-scenes look at this year’s OPC tour plans.

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Episode Transcript:

Brad Crowell 0:00  

You have to be able to be fluid enough to make changes in the moment when something isn't working or isn't making sense, or not necessarily in the moment you have to catch it, you can assess it after the fact and do the post mortem.

Lesley Logan 0:15  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 0:58  

Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It second half of the how did these tours come to be? And Brad is back as my guest. So this is a different kind of cadence, I guess you'd say. 

Brad Crowell 1:10  

Yeah, you know, we're shaking things up a little bit. 

Lesley Logan 1:11  

So we're not answering any of your questions. We're not going to talk about the Be It Action Items we shared with you. 

Brad Crowell 1:16  

But we are going to talk about that amazing guest you had on this week's episode. 

Lesley Logan 1:20  

Oh yeah, yeah. We're talking about you, Brad. 

Brad Crowell 1:22  

It was me. 

Lesley Logan 1:23  

And also, if you want to come to the tours, opc.me/tour, no matter when you hear this, you will always be able to see what upcoming tour there is or you'll get on a waitlist for the next one to come out. But basically, we do two tours a year. So we left off with how we started talking with Balanced Body about our tours.

Brad Crowell 1:42  

Yeah. So I remember we were at a POT, I think. 

Lesley Logan 1:46  

In Monterey in 2020. 

Brad Crowell 1:48  

No, I think it was before that. I think it was in Chicago, even before that. 

Lesley Logan 1:51  

Well, there was a Chicago one that I talked to them and I planted the seed, that was in 2019. 

Brad Crowell 1:54  

Yeah, but that's the one I was talking about. So we started talking to Balanced Body years prior to their participation, and I remember the conversation with their team. I just remember looking at their operation and literally watching them back a tractor trailer up to the convention center and commenting and going, Wow, you guys have tractor trailers. And the response was, we have three. I was like, you have three tractor trailers? They're like, yeah, look where do you think all these Reformers are gonna go? And they were loading case after case after case of things into the thing. And I was like, wow, it's so much work for you guys to go on the road. And they said, yeah, for us to put on these POTs, it is a massive enterprise to do. Many, many, many people, lots and lots of money. It's so much coordination, so much effort, you know. And I jokingly said, well, you know, I think we can help you guys out with that. And that didn't really come to anything, but I, in my mind, I was like, we could do it for half, you know. And then we got the van, and then we were talking with Ken.

Lesley Logan 2:56  

What happened is they changed, on the Contrology, they changed how you can do the wheels, the side wheels, how you can tighten them or not tighten them, and they change it to make it easier for people. And so I said, we're all, we're driving to the POT Monterey anyways, because we're gonna have a booth there as well because we had a booth in the October one which was when you kind of planted that seed. 

Brad Crowell 3:15  

Yeah, and for us it was only what eight hours, at this point we've driven across the country multiple times. They're like, yeah, we'll just drive. 

Lesley Logan 3:20  

I said, oh, I'll bring my Reformer. And we weren't even staying at the hotel where the event was. We were just down the street, just because of, like, I needed a really big room. 

Brad Crowell 3:27  

Yeah, you had to do a weekend workshop thing. 

Lesley Logan 3:29  

Yeah, I had to, like, host a weekend event and so we needed a big room. And so I had my assistant at the time, like, literally scoping pictures of rooms and we're like, there's no way we can make this room work, because the beds right there. So we had to stay about a mile a half away from the venue. And so Ken Ubered over. 

Brad Crowell 3:45  

Ken is the owner of Balanced Body. 

Lesley Logan 3:47  

Yeah, so get this, Ken Ubered over to our hotel, during setup of his humongous convention, to change the little silver situation that goes on the back of my carriage, to change the wheels out. 

Brad Crowell 4:01  

Yeah, he brought us wrenches.

Lesley Logan 4:02  

He just brought a wrench, brought a credit card, so we had also brought our Nespresso machine. Brad made him a cup of Nespresso and so he fixed he like, this is, this is what.

Brad Crowell 4:11  

We're just chilling out, you know, and he's working on this Reformer, we're just chit-chatting. 

Lesley Logan 4:16  

And then Brad's like, oh, man, I'll take you back to the venue. 

Brad Crowell 4:18  

Yeah. He's like, oh, I'll grab an Uber. I was like, no, you will not grab an Uber. I will drive you, you know. And of course, I wanted him to see the van. 

Lesley Logan 4:26  

Yeah. So he got in the van. He had to see how big the van was. He had just seen that we brought the Reformer. 

Brad Crowell 4:31  

Yeah, yeah. Obviously, we brought the Reformer. But he said to me, oh my gosh, I always wanted one of these when I was in my 20s. I always just wanted to drive around the country. And it's so cool that you guys are doing this, and that's when I got a chance to say, well, this is, you know, we do go on tour, and we are taking, we're already taking a Reformer with us, so that we can show off the Contrology Reformer, right? And he was like, wow. And so, you know, I didn't like full blown pitch him in that moment, but it was like one major seed planted, because he could see it, feel it, touch it, understand it, in a way that wasn't us trying to pitch the vision. He could be in the vision.

Lesley Logan 5:09  

Yeah. So they actually signed on with us for our first ever summer tour. And so we got to do the west coast because we'd only ever done the East Coast and the middle we'd never done the west coast before we'd pulled them. We want to do a West Coast tour. So we actually did our first West Coast tour. It wasn't very long. It was kind of like a short and sweet thing. I know. We did Las Vegas. We did Los Angeles. 

Brad Crowell 5:31  

Well, somewhere in there, we missed the 2022 winter tour. But we, 2020. 

Lesley Logan 5:36  

Oh, yeah, we did a '22 we did a 22, you're right, we did do a 2022 winter tour. And that got bigger, got back up to the size. 

Brad Crowell 5:41  

Yeah, that was like eight or nine. So we have Cleveland, St Louis, Dallas, Houston, Nashville, Atlanta, Greensboro. Yeah. So. 

Lesley Logan 5:48  

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That one, that one was really great, actually, because we got back up to our 2019 numbers and so we were able to say, okay, so we've had four tours, and so we're able to show them like, look now that COVID allows us to do this. Look at these nine cities. What if we, so we did our biggest tour ever, which was the West Coast tour. We didn't do Los Angeles. We started at Las Vegas. Did we even do Las Vegas? I know we did Riverside. 

Brad Crowell 6:10  

For the summer tour? 

Lesley Logan 6:11  

Yeah. We did Redlands. 

Brad Crowell 6:13  

Redlands, Long Beach. 

Lesley Logan 6:14  

Long Beach. 

Brad Crowell 6:14  

Bakersfield. 

Lesley Logan 6:15  

Bakersfield. 

Brad Crowell 6:16  

Central Valley, Hanford, Fresno. 

Lesley Logan 6:18  

Yeah it was near Fresno. 

Brad Crowell 6:19  

Modesto. 

Lesley Logan 6:20  

Modesto. You guys were hitting some of those great I-5 cities. 

Brad Crowell 6:23  

So that's five. Yeah, we did Fairfield. 

Lesley Logan 6:25  

Yes. And we did Sacramento. 

Brad Crowell 6:27  

Sac. 

Lesley Logan 6:27  

And then we did a tour of Balanced Body, even though we've done it before with Ken, we did a tour so that our OPC members could see how it's all done. It was so fun. They do amazing work at Balanced Body, just being great on the environment. Then we did. 

Brad Crowell 6:40  

Bend. 

Lesley Logan 6:40  

Bend, Oregon. 

Brad Crowell 6:42  

Portland. 

Lesley Logan 6:42  

Portland. That was so fun, too, Seattle, and then. 

Brad Crowell 6:46  

Spokane. 

Lesley Logan 6:47  

Spokane and then we dropped down, had a couple days off in Idaho. And then we got all around St George, Utah. 

Brad Crowell 6:54  

So we did 11 stops. 

Lesley Logan 6:55  

11 stops, it was our biggest one, and it was so fun. And we got to see how hot it could get. So then the van got a fan. 

Brad Crowell 7:05  

We also did that whole tour in two weeks. 

Lesley Logan 7:07  

In two weeks. 

Brad Crowell 7:07  

It was like 16 days. 

Lesley Logan 7:09  

It was really. 

Brad Crowell 7:10  

It was zipped through 11 stops in 16 days. 

Lesley Logan 7:13  

It was, yeah, there's a heat wave. So I was not, I was okay with zipping through. Then, because of that went so well and Balanced Body was so great with that that they joined us for our winter tour in 2023 and then we really able to like. 

Brad Crowell 7:26  

But that's when I think things really blew up. 

Lesley Logan 7:27  

Yeah, I don't think it was our, it was our biggest tour, for sure. It beat the 11 cities, but it wasn't our biggest, biggest. Then, last year, you want to go through them? 

Brad Crowell 7:36  

Sure. We did Vegas, St George, Denver, Lawrence, Kansas, St Louis, Missouri, Cleveland, Ohio, Saratoga Springs. That was a private event. Boston, t hen Providence, private event. Brooklyn. We had to cancel New York City because nobody was in town. Hershey, Pennsylvania, Greensboro, North Carolina, Charleston, South Carolina, Miami, Sarasota, that's the first time we did the inside of Florida. Then Austin, Dallas, Albuquerque, Sedona. So by far, this was the largest one of the 19 cities. 

Lesley Logan 8:10  

Yeah, then we did a summer tour with the Midwest. Because if you've noticed, we've been skipping Chicago for a while. So we have been alternating the West Coast, with the Midwest, and so this is how we decided, like, okay, so you need to know, after every single one of these tours, we reflect about, like, what went well, what cities went well? Will we go back, how the people like it, how much effort was it, how great was the host? You know, if we love the host, obviously it's amazing for us to want to go there. If the host works really, really hard, then, of course, we want to continue to work with them and support them. But we also discovered that my voice, as I get older, my voice can only do. 

Brad Crowell 8:47  

I don't think it's just because you're getting older. We had you working nine days in a row, literally teaching class nine days in a row. By the ninth day you were fried. 

Lesley Logan 8:56  

And some of these studios, they're acoustic. 

Brad Crowell 8:58  

You're not a day older than 29, love. 

Lesley Logan 8:59  

Thanks, baby. Some of these students, the acoustics are not awesome for that, because you have to get your voice to carry and all these things. And so, at any rate, you'd think, well, Lesley, don't you teach all day? No. No, I don't. No, I don't. In fact, when I. 

Brad Crowell 9:14  

Come on, you do talk, you do talk most of the time, but like this is different than trying to yell in a warehouse, you know, like. 

Lesley Logan 9:20  

Yeah, and get people's attention in a warehouse, for sure, some of them have music going on, the whole thing. So, at any rate, we've made changes to the tour. So you'll notice with tour schedules since summer of the Midwest. 

Brad Crowell 9:31  

Well, that, so the Summer Tour was only 13 stops, but we did it in 16 days. Yes, we were flying through. 

Lesley Logan 9:36  

We made changes that we can only do max six days in a row before a day off, five is more ideal. 

Brad Crowell 9:42  

But this was a major change for us, where, whereas, like, all right, we have to be very intentional about the breaks that we're putting in. Because one, things Lesley mentioned at the beginning was, how does she maintain her consistency? How does she maintain her you know, how do you do that stuff? 

Lesley Logan 9:57  

So these tours, because I don't want to do them, because it's a job. We actually truly enjoy doing the tours. We have so much fun. I mean, I get to hug hundreds of people. It's so great. And it really, actually makes me go, oh, I wanna teach all the time. And then I'm actually like, no, actually, I really love my life, but I love that I get to see so many of you that I only see on like, I only get to read words on the internet. I get to see you in person. I could touch you and like you're three dimensional and all the things. We really love doing it, we also want to be able to be as present as possible. And so after every tour, we always reflect back, do we have enough time in that city? Do we have enough time to do this? You guys, I must work out so I do not teach all these people Pilates, and I don't get workouts in. And so every schedule we have to make sure that five days a week, I have time at a gym. I have time to move before I'm teaching giving me space to go the gym at 11pm at night is not space to work out. Also, I have to make sure that I get to have seven hours of sleep, very important. So all the things that I preach about prioritizing myself first, those things happen on tour. 

Brad Crowell 10:57  

People always ask us how do you maintain your routine when you're completely jacking up your routine?

Lesley Logan 11:02  

Yeah? Well, you can speak to this. You guys use a really cool app that plans out everything, because he'll kind of drive late at night while I'm sleeping, so I can go to bed early, and I'll wake up and it will say like you're working out from this time to this time. Then you're driving here to get coffee, and then you're driving here to do this thing, and so that I have time to do my thing for myself while you're sleeping.

Brad Crowell 11:22  

Yeah, so we take shifts, because just the nature of our brains and our bodies, I usually stay up late. Lesley usually gets up early, especially when, when it was the COVID trip that was crazy, like the van almost never turned off. We just kept going. 

Lesley Logan 11:36  

We were so nervous about touching anything. 

Brad Crowell 11:37  

I sleep, you drive, and while you were sleeping, I would drive, and we'd just go, go, go. 

Lesley Logan 11:42  

That was very different. That was also just like a very different time in the world. We were, like, afraid. We still wondered if you got COVID from gas station handles and we were going to see people at Christmas, and we had to do like, a three-day hangout at your parents' house.

Brad Crowell 11:55  

But the point is that we were overlapping on purpose while one was sleeping, the other was driving. Now it's a little less. The maximum amount of driving that we're trying to do in a day is, like, no more than eight hours. And that's still a lot, you know, so we've started to slow it down, which has since then made the tour longer, but it makes it a lot more enjoyable so.

Lesley Logan 12:17  

We also get to like, see places now, because and we have the dogs, well, now we just have one dog. We should tell them funny stories about the dogs before we wrap this episode up. But we like make sure that they get walks, and we take it through really beautiful habitat preservations that allow for dog walking. We get to see some really cool thing.

Brad Crowell 12:33  

We stopped in Kansas by, like, one of those big tank memorials and threw the ball. I mean, you know, like this, all these things that we do. Then the Winter Tour 2024 with the support of Balanced Body. And we had some other sponsors, too. Yeah, we had 21 locations, 21 stops. But in order to meet these new requirements of no more than six days in a row of teaching, how do we drive eight hours or less a day? How do we make sure that we've got time to do some workouts. By the way, we're interested in seeing White Sands National Park on this trip. Can we do that, you know, like stuff like that. How do we work all that in? Well, it ended up making, making the trip 34, 35 days. But we actually went the longest. We drove 80, over 8000 miles. 

Lesley Logan 13:17  

Yeah, we got to go to some great places. And also, if you're like, this sounds so amazing, guys, everything works out for you. Just so you know, pretty much every tour there was a dud city.

Brad Crowell 13:24  

Oh yeah, we had to cancel. It would have been 22 cities on the Winter Tour, and we, unfortunately, had to pull one because we just had no one participate.

Lesley Logan 13:33  

And we and talk about like the last time was that perseverance, we paid people to scour emails and Instagram handles for three hour drive away to be like, okay, well, what if we get these people from this state to come in? What if this people from this state come in? They could do with this. 

Brad Crowell 13:47  

I mean, I would drive and just call, literally, I would call studio after studio after studio. 

Lesley Logan 13:51  

And we had people say, and it was a lovely house. And she's like, no, people are just last minute. We're like, girl, it's 48 hours before. This is as last minute as we, no, we're not driving up there. So again, we don't take it personally. It sucks. We always do reflect, like, what could we have done better? Was it the time of day? You know, we've had cities that have done really, really well two years in a row, and then have a dud year, and we're like, oh, what happened there? And it's like, oh. So this next Winter Tour, we're flipping two cities because we're like, oh, you know, we did them before Christmas and then after Christmas. And this year we switched that, and that didn't go well for either one of them. So you start to learn the seasons of things, and you have to know that it's not personal, but the reflecting after every tour really helps us make each tour even better. And we're six weeks, five weeks away from our eighth tour, and it's gonna be epic. It's gonna be amazing. It almost feels like a vacation.

Brad Crowell 14:38  

A little bit more time-condensed, so we're a little over three weeks, but we're at doing almost 19 stops. So that's, that's intense. 

Lesley Logan 14:46  

Three of them include Canada.

Brad Crowell 14:48  

Yeah. So we're, we're doing our best here to get to do our first international tour. I mean, we are going, so. 

Lesley Logan 14:55  

We're going. Just so you know, these tours also are a huge investment. There's a reason why we have a sponsor with Balanced Body. They really help us actually be on the road for that long because when you're on the road for that many weeks, you're having three plus meals a day on the road. All that adds up money, the gas, depending on what state you're in, is insane, right? So there's that we do. We try not to use a hotel at this point because we have the van, the investment we've made in the van, you know, to make it so we can live in all of that kind of costs money. And so there are things that have failed on tours where, like, like, those stops that haven't made money or haven't, haven't, had been canceled, but having a sponsor that allows us to, like, really be on the road for that long, so that we can do these stops and we can see all of you, but to get to Canada, we're investing thousands of dollars to make it happen.

Brad Crowell 15:41  

Yeah, had to pay an attorney to help us with paperwork and it was like. 

Lesley Logan 15:44  

Because you can't just work wherever you want to work. You can't just do that. So we're super, super excited to be one of the first people that actually do a big Pilates event. There have been other Pilates events in Canada. I don't want to discount those ones that are happening in Balanced Bodies in Montreal.

Brad Crowell 15:59  

 It's like, it's the thing that's exciting about this is it'll be our first international tour. 

Lesley Logan 16:03  

Yes, yes. I know people are like, when are you going to do a European tour? So I used to think it was like two years away after what we're doing for Canada. You guys, I gonna tell you right now, that's a five year plan. Because, like. 

Brad Crowell 16:13  

Yeah, we so we're thinking about, how could we do this, you know, in Europe and Australia. Because, like, eventually for us, that's the vision. We want to go see those places. We want to spend the time, I think, for us to drive around Australia, to do it right, it's going to take us five to six weeks of driving, like, that's a lot. 

Lesley Logan 16:28  

And we're going to have to rent a van there. We're certainly not going to take one. I was thinking about put some magnets on it. But also, there are actual laws about what we can do, and we don't do these things quietly. So, so if you live in Australia or Europe, and you want us to do tours there, you should definitely reach out. We keep a list of people who love to host. And we do need hosts. These tours, they happen when there's hosts. But also, and that goes for anyone in the States as well. You can actually put your place on there. But also, we're gonna need legal help, because, like we're talking immigration attorney help, which is not cheap, by the way, very expensive, so that we can actually do these things. So what we thought would be like in two years, I'm realizing, is probably a few years in the making. But we want to make this happen. We want to be part of it. That's why we're actually telling you the behind the scenes on how these tours work. So opc.me/tour is where you go for tickets, but opc.me/host is where you go to apply to be a host. Okay, so funny stories about the dogs. First of all, we used to do these tours with three dogs. 

Brad Crowell 17:29  

Three. 

Lesley Logan 17:30  

And then Gaia's last tour was Summer Tour 2024. 

Brad Crowell 17:33  

Well, her first last tour. 

Lesley Logan 17:35  

Her first last tour was Winter 2022. 

Brad Crowell 17:38  

So, was it winter? 

Lesley Logan 17:40  

Oh, yeah, Winter Tour 2022. 

Brad Crowell 17:42  

It was Winter Tour, you're right.

Lesley Logan 17:43  

And then it was, her first last tour was Summer 2023 then her second last tour was, was winter 2023 and then. 

Brad Crowell 17:52  

Her actual last tour was Summer '24. 

Lesley Logan 17:53  

You guys, before we started, she, you guys, she did not want to go. We were, the van was loaded up, the boys were in it. The boys, because the boys, once we start loading the, putting stuff up to load in. They are like, in the van. 

Brad Crowell 18:03  

Yeah, they do not want to be left behind, so they're sitting in the van watching us. 

Lesley Logan 18:07  

It is hot as fuck outside. And they're like, no, I need to be in the van. I'm like, okay, but the doors are wide open. I can't be in the van. And they're freaking out. They're, they're just, you know, very nervous. And she, so we have the whole van loaded up. The boys are in the van. We go Gaia, and she comes and looks at the door.

Brad Crowell 18:22  

She comes out onto the front porch, stares at us. 

Lesley Logan 18:26  

And she goes back inside. 

Brad Crowell 18:27  

Turns around and goes back in the house. She's like nuh-uh.

Lesley Logan 18:30  

And we forced her, we forced her to go on this tour. And she was at this point, sleeping 20 hours a day, just anyways, she was having a hard time with her back legs. We're carrying her everywhere, which we've been doing the last two tours. 

Brad Crowell 18:41  

And we had to lift her in and out of the van. 

Lesley Logan 18:42  

Lift her in the van, and then, okay, so on this her on her final, final, last tour, she had an accident in the bed, and that was really unfortunate, because we're on the road now. We've got a dog, but that has to get washed. We don't always have time for a, like, a wash and, like, I don't know what you call this, like a fluff and fold. So I'm in Kansas City teaching a class, and while I'm teaching, Brad leaves to go bathe her. So he finds a place that he can bathe her, and he has to leave because it's hot out. He has to leave.

Brad Crowell 19:12  

So the timing of things, we have a very tight timeline. 

Lesley Logan 19:16  

He leaves the car running with the dogs in the van and the boys. 

Brad Crowell 19:20  

Wait. So, hold on. You're teaching the class. You're teaching the workshop. I have, literally, I have 90 minutes to get up and out, find a place, turn it around, wash the dog, get back. Right?

Lesley Logan 19:34  

Yeah. So he pulls up to this dog place. 

Brad Crowell 19:37  

Well, the first one I pulled up to, it says on Google Maps that they have a thing in there to wash them. They don't. And I was like, are you, are you kidding? I just wasted 10 minutes coming all the way over here, and you don't have what I need. 

Lesley Logan 19:49  

Yeah, so, so then he now has to go the next one, right? So he goes to the next one. He leaves the car running because it's hot out. It's like 90 something degrees. He leaves it running. And the boys are in the passenger seat, watching Brad take Gaia into the van. They're not okay with this. The pack is not together, somehow, though, while he's washing Gaia, so she's in this tub. 

Brad Crowell 20:10  

So they're in the van, I'm in the store. But the the van's running so that the AC could be blasting. And August. 

Lesley Logan 20:18  

Pressed the window button. 

Brad Crowell 20:19  

He goes to the driver's seat, and shoves his nose, but he touches, he steps on the window button, and the window goes down, and sure enough. 

Lesley Logan 20:27  

Jumps out. 

Brad Crowell 20:28  

Two dogs jump out of the van. 

Lesley Logan 20:29  

And they go up to the store, which has those doors that open by themselves. 

Brad Crowell 20:32  

So before that happened, I'm in the back of the store, and I'm washing Gaia, right? She's covered in shit. All of a sudden, up at the front of the store, I hear, oh no, oh no, right, and this now there's multiple people yelling oh no. And then this lady's running down the store, and she's yelling, hey, sir, sir, I think your dogs just got out of the van. I'm like, holding the hose, and it's one of those timer things. So, like, I'm like, all right, I guess I'm gonna have to get more of that once I figure this other thing out. So I throw the water that's already it's still coming out. I just throw it and like, I'm like, Gaia, you stay. And she's looking at me, like, how could I possibly go anywhere? Right? And so I'm running out towards the van right at the same exact time the double doors of this big dog store open, and both August and Bayon come running into the store.

Lesley Logan 21:21  

Yeah, they ran into the store. So thankfully, they ran into the store and not, like, down the street. I don't even know what we would have done. At any rate.

Brad Crowell 21:28  

Yeah, I was, like, I was, because there was a parking lot. Like, there was hundreds of cars. It would have been terrible. 

Lesley Logan 21:33  

Yeah. So they ran into the store, so Brad has to get them. 

Brad Crowell 21:36  

So now I got all three dogs in the back, in the dog washing area, because I'm like, screw it. You guys are with me now. We're just gonna all hang out here. Finish washing Gaia. I blow dry Gaia down. And they were like, hey, can we get you a leash? Because the leashes were in the van. It wasn't like that, you know, so, and I was like, that would be so helpful. So they helped me, like, get the dogs on a leash. And, you know, we troop out of it, and everyone's happy because, you know, the dogs came to be with the pack. 

Lesley Logan 22:04  

Yeah, so. 

Brad Crowell 22:06  

Oh, and then I had to zip back just in time for the end of the workshop so that I could do the raffle. 

Lesley Logan 22:10  

And I'm like, wrapping up this workshop, and he's not there. And I'm like, where the fuck is he? Because I can't, I don't know what I'm raffling off like I had to check people into this next thing. I had no idea this was going on. Anyways, oh my God. So this tour we. 

Brad Crowell 22:24  

Chaos. 

Lesley Logan 22:25  

This tour will be not chaotic. Future tours will not be chaotic because we have one dog. 

Brad Crowell 22:30  

Yes, he's very chill. He just wants to lay next to you.

Lesley Logan 22:33  

He's very chill. Just wants to lay down. He wants to just be there. So I think it was so this is where we're at. No more shenanigans. Real easy. Roll in, roll out. You guys. We have two tours this year. We have a summer tour in the West Coast, into Canada. Please tell your friends, come make a trip out of it. We're doing some really cool cities. We're going to places you're going to want to travel to, and obviously, East Coast, the South check our Winter Tour list. And if you are living anywhere in the world and you want a tour stop, feel free to go to opc.me/host but opc.me/tour get tickets for you and your friends.

Brad Crowell 23:06  

If you want a tour stop, meaning you would like to host us, go to opc.me/host. If you would like information about the tour itself, go to opc.me/tour.

Lesley Logan 23:16  

And all of the classes and workshops are for all levels, so your friends and your family can come. These are not made to be only for teachers. There are CECs for the teachers. And again, our headlining sponsor for these next two tours is Balanced Body and Contrology. Oh, and now we have a contour kit, because we're bringing a Reformer, a mat and a Spine Corrector, so you guys can try those things out.

Brad Crowell 23:40  

Not a chair? 

Lesley Logan 23:41  

No, we didn't buy the chair. 

Brad Crowell 23:42  

Oh, I thought we did.

Lesley Logan 23:44  

No, we talked about that. 

Brad Crowell 23:44  

All right, failed. Well, that's fine.

Lesley Logan 23:47  

I would love another chair. But we discussed that. 

Brad Crowell 23:50  

It is big. It's just a lot.

Lesley Logan 23:53  

We discussed it. It was not the right thing to buy it until the van's more set up,

Brad Crowell 23:58  

Yeah. So anyway, come try out all that fun stuff. So what would you say would be a Be It Action Item for this episode? 

Lesley Logan 24:06  

Oh, just go buy a ticket to our upcoming tour, because you're gonna have the best time. You're gonna be in community. If you feel lonely, or if you feel burnt out, or if you feel exhausted, then you come on this tour and you, I fill your cup. I prioritize you, I answer your questions. You get to see people you pass as two ships. You get to maybe meet up with people you had no idea love Pilates the same way you do. These literally bring people together. And it doesn't matter how you started Pilates, how many years been doing Pilates, if you teach who trained you. I don't give a fuck. Being in community is the be it action item. It's important.

Brad Crowell 24:45  

Cool. So my Be It Action Item is when it comes to projects like this, don't be afraid to make changes after you've decided this is how it should work, right, because, for example, if we didn't sell tickets to a spot why are we driving there, right? And that's a bummer, and that's frustrating, but you have to be able to be fluid enough to make changes in the moment when something isn't working or isn't making sense, or not necessarily in the moment, you have to catch it, you can assess it after the fact and do the post mortem, right? For example, from the Summer Tour '24 to the Winter Tour '24 we decided you clearly shouldn't be teaching nine days in a row. That is not healthy, right? So therefore we put a hard stop six days maximum on the way out to Philadelphia. We only taught one stint of six days. Everything else was five, four days in a row before we took a day off on the way back from Philadelphia, same thing, we only had one stint of six days because we were making adjustments and making changes. So, yeah, but I still agree with you that you should come join us because of community. It is so important, especially now with our virtual world, with loneliness being higher than it's ever been, with social media not helping any of us actually function in our own lives. Even though we've been sold this story that somehow it's gonna connect us better, it fucking doesn't, and it's just making us lonelier. So what we're trying to do is actually bring together people in real life, so that we can support each other and be around each other, because we need it. So we would love to meet you, come join us on these tours. 

Brad Crowell 26:22  

Yes, all right, loves, until next time, Be It Till You See It. 

Brad Crowell 26:25  

Bye for now. 

Lesley Logan 26:27  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.

Brad Crowell 27:10  

It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 27:15  

It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.

Brad Crowell 27:19  

Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.

Lesley Logan 27:26  

Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.

Brad Crowell 27:30  

Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.

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What started as a holiday workaround turned into a nationwide tour that’s touched hundreds of lives. In this behind-the-scenes episode, Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell share the unfiltered origin story of the OPC Tour. From cross-country van trips to pandemic pivots, their journey proves that big dreams are built on small, intentional steps. Tune in to hear how messy action, community love, and a little bit of stubbornness made it all possible.

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Episode Transcript:

Lesley Logan 0:00  

Just try the smallest version of the idea out that has the intentionality of what you want. We wanted to bring the community together, and we wanted to get across the country. 

Lesley Logan 0:09  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 0:52  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast with Brad as my guest. 

Brad Crowell 0:56  

What? Who is here? 

Lesley Logan 0:57  

Have we actually done it where you're my guest?

Brad Crowell 1:00  

Maybe. I mean, I've been on a couple of episodes where we've had, like, a group with some guests, but, like, has it just been you and I on them? 

Lesley Logan 1:07  

But you're also, no, I don't think so. 

Brad Crowell 1:09  

Maybe this is, I'm making a debut, people. 

Lesley Logan 1:11  

All right, so here's the deal. We actually have to, like, do this as if I was introducing that episode, so that there can be an ad break. 

Brad Crowell 1:18  

All right, go ahead. 

Lesley Logan 1:19  

Hey guys. So today's episode is gonna be a little different, because, yes, as you heard, Brad's on the show, and we're gonna be talking a bit about the tour, and I thought it'd be really fun for us to actually take you back in the history of like, how the OPC tours started, why we do them, and just have some talk about the tour this week, because we're coming up on our eighth tour.

Brad Crowell 1:40  

I can't believe it's been eight. That's like mind blowing, actually. 

Lesley Logan 1:43  

We're crazy people. 

Brad Crowell 1:44  

Maybe a little bit, maybe just a little bit. 

Lesley Logan 1:46  

Okay. So, Brad, do you remember when we did the first tour? Do you remember how the idea came to be?

Brad Crowell 1:52  

I do remember how the idea came to be. So you and I were in a coaching group, and there was another couple in the group who had written a book. They were very excited about this book, and they wanted to go around the cities and do a book tour launch slash hosting workshops while they were effectively selling their book. 

Lesley Logan 2:11  

Yeah. And we were like, well, how can we go on a book tour? Because, I mean, yes, I have a book, but I didn't want to, like, go on a tour about the book. I was like, that doesn't really, I don't know if that's something I could do all the time. We're like, what if I, like, what, how can we go on a tour? And then, because you were a touring musician.

Brad Crowell 2:25  

Right, as soon as I, as soon as I heard them say that, and we started talking, I was like, we could just teach Pilates classes as we drive around on a tour. Like, hello. So obvious. Why did we not think of it before? 

Lesley Logan 2:37  

The year, so we need to go back a year before that, Brad. So the only reason we actually thought we could do a tour in 2019 was because in 2018 I put my feet in the sand and said, I'm not flying home for the holidays. I'm not doing it. I love your family, but I can't do another flight. We've already done 150,000 miles of flying. I've been everywhere, and I hate flying at Christmas time. And also, for some reason, guys, LAX to Philly is almost impossible to find a nonstop flight. It's impossible to find a nonstop flight from Las Vegas to Philly, and so you have to fly red eyes, which is annoying because it's four and a half hours, not six hours, so you're not getting any sleep. And then you land there, and it's 11am somehow, and you're like, how?

Brad Crowell 3:22  

Yeah, you land at seven, by the time you get back to the house, it's 10:30, yeah, I mean, it's.

Lesley Logan 3:26  

Annoying. 

Brad Crowell 3:26  

Not great. 

Lesley Logan 3:26  

Anyways. Also, the last time we flew in 2017, I did finally fall asleep. And then, of course, the lights come on and they're like, is there a doctor on the plane? And I was just like, if they land this plane, if someone is not, of course, I want people to live. I'm not an asshole. But also I was finally asleep. So anyways, because we had done a cross-country tour. 

Brad Crowell 3:50  

Trip. 

Lesley Logan 3:50  

Trip, trip, in 2018. 

Brad Crowell 3:51  

We just, we just rented a car, let's just go east, basically. And we didn't have an agenda other than we just had a couple of friends along the way that we were interested in seeing and saying hi to, and that was it. 

Lesley Logan 4:05  

Just kind of based on, like, how many hours we thought, like, together we could drive. And, okay, that gets us here at night. And, oh, we have friends in St Louis. Okay, we can go here. So we have this tiny little car with the two dogs, and we drove. 

Brad Crowell 4:17  

And we rented an SUV. But I was like, oh, you know, I don't need a, I don't need like a huge Tahoe or Chevy Suburban or anything. We could just get a regular SUV. It was so small, y'all. 

Lesley Logan 4:28  

I don't know how they can call it an SUV. You guys, it was like, no, this is not an SUV. If you put a family of five in there, you couldn't have the groceries in the car, like it was so small. But anyways, it was just the two of us and the two dogs. And when we were on this trip, I was like, posting on Instagram, and this is before you really used Instagram for business, but I was posting like, oh, we're here. You know, I feel like, are you teaching here? And I was like, oh, people want us to teach here. I didn't know people would want your class on the holidays. So this had happened in 2018. 

Brad Crowell 4:56  

That's right. 

Lesley Logan 4:57  

Fast forward to October of 2019, and we are hearing this, and we're like, well, how can we do, so we had the, we knew.

Brad Crowell 5:04  

Kind of like had like I, like, we, we'd been prompted by our members from OPC, but that didn't actually turn into like we're going to do this tour thing next year, until this other couple was talking about their book launch, you're right. So, that was like, the second step to push us, if we're, like, to make it happen. 

Lesley Logan 5:21  

Yeah and because we knew we could do the drive. 

Brad Crowell 5:22  

Right, because we just done it the previous year, and we drove, you know, we drove both ways, you know, back and forth. 

Lesley Logan 5:28  

Yeah. So we actually did the posters on the wall. I should have grabbed it for the visual, but we did, like, eight or nine cities, actually, we did on the very first we did Las Vegas. 

Brad Crowell 5:37  

So that was 2019. 

Lesley Logan 5:39  

We did Las Vegas, Denver, we did. 

Brad Crowell 5:43  

Did we do St Louis? 

Lesley Logan 5:44  

I don't know that we did St Louis. We did, no, we did Libertyville. So we did outside of Chicago, and then we did, like, some other ville, like, which was outside of Cleveland, but not Cleveland. 

Brad Crowell 5:55  

Yeah, it was close to Cleveland, though. 

Lesley Logan 5:57  

And then we did Lehigh Valley. 

Brad Crowell 6:00  

Right, yeah, it was like, basically Bethlehem. 

Lesley Logan 6:03  

And then we did Nashville, and then we did Atlanta. 

Brad Crowell 6:06  

Oh, we did Nashville? 

Lesley Logan 6:07  

Yeah. 

Brad Crowell 6:08  

Oh. 

Lesley Logan 6:08  

It was huge, like, 30 people, and that's why it's so, and people were like are you in Nashville, you guys are not, like, ever since then, not such a great follow up, you guys are not great. Love you. We want to go, trust me, we want to do Nashville. Um, then we did Atlanta, and then we did Austin, and then we did Phoenix. 

Brad Crowell 6:28  

Geez, I don't even know how you remember these things. 

Lesley Logan 6:30  

And then, I know, and then, and then, I don't know that we considered it part of the tour, although very much was. It was in January, we did Redlands, and then the world shut down. And then, so our first tour. 

Brad Crowell 6:46  

We did Scottsdale. It was the last stop. 

Lesley Logan 6:48  

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We did this really cool place in Scottsdale. 

Brad Crowell 6:51  

Yeah. So I actually just pulled up the list. You nailed it, Vegas to Denver, to Chicago, which is Libertyville, to Cleveland, which is Strongsville, your second ville.

Lesley Logan 6:58  

I said it was another ville. 

Brad Crowell 6:59  

I'm so impressed. Then Lehigh Valley, which is Bethlehem, and then Nashville, Austin and Scottsdale. Yeah. I am impressed. 

Lesley Logan 7:06  

And then there was like, this little post tour stop in Redlands, which was not part of the tour. We added it in after the fact, but it was so fun. And it was like the true die hards, you know, the people who know the band before they make it to Coachella. It was like.

Brad Crowell 7:20  

Scottsdale was insane to me, that people even came out. It was like, negative 4 million degrees hot, and we had an outdoor venue. 

Lesley Logan 7:28  

It was New Year's Eve. It was New Year's Eve at an outdoor venue. 

Brad Crowell 7:32  

We literally had, like, it was, like, every three mats, there was a space heater, and everyone was like, oh my God, it's so cool. We're doing Pilates outside on January 1st. What are we doing? 

Lesley Logan 7:40  

We all got warm enough, and it was super fun. And it was so great. 

Brad Crowell 7:44  

It was so fun. 

Lesley Logan 7:45  

It was sold out. It was such a great spot. And people, like, came from Canada, there, it was just like crazy. So, at any rate, it was so much fun, and we wanted new, we knew we want to do it again, but then, of course, the pandemic happened. But here's what got to happen, guys, so the pandemic happened, Brad and I still drove across the U.S., but we thought. 

Brad Crowell 8:01  

I was just looking at the ticket sales, we had 133 tickets sold on that first tour.

Lesley Logan 8:07  

On the first tour, yeah. But we did that with a Tahoe, by the way. 

Brad Crowell 8:11  

What, the second tour? After the first tour.

Lesley Logan 8:15  

No, no, we went to the Tahoe for the first tour. We went to the Tahoe. 

Brad Crowell 8:18  

2019 yeah, you're right, yeah, because we knew that the tiny little SUV wasn't going to cut it, especially because we were bringing, like, stuff, and it was gonna be a little more of a robust tour. So we rented a Tahoe, and that was fine-ish, you know, it wasn't, it wasn't ideal, though, because, like, there was no real, yes, you could lay down on the back seat. We had this, the back, the middle seat was laid flat, but like, you know, it wasn't comfortable trying to sleep in the passenger seats sucks, like.

Lesley Logan 8:45  

Yeah, and also, you guys, we also, because we're going to places where we had clients, it wasn't necessarily places where we had friends, and so we were getting hotels. We had a hotel in Denver. We stayed in the financial district. 

Brad Crowell 8:57  

Oh, I forgot we did. 

Lesley Logan 8:58  

And then, in Libertyville we did stay at the host, like, basement, but Gaia had an accident. We're like, my God, we can't stay in people's houses, because Gaia's old. At any rate, it was really fun, and we, like, did it, but then with the pandemic, we obviously couldn't do it again. But what we did do during the year of 2020, was we actually bought the van, and because we knew we wanted a tour vehicle, and thank God we bought it, even though we weren't going on tour that year because they wanted to pay us what we paid for that van, like people were like, clamoring to get that van off our hands. But we got the van, you guys, we took it across the country in less than 48 hours. We drove from Las Vegas.

Brad Crowell 9:34  

That was 55 on the way home. Yep, 55 hours solid, from Philadelphia to Vegas. 

Lesley Logan 9:39  

We, but on the way there, I don't think that van ever really stopped, because we tried to sleep in Vail on a mattress on the metal base of this cargo van. 

Brad Crowell 9:50  

So okay, so here's what this looks like. We buy a cargo van. A cargo van is an empty box on wheels. Okay? And we bought the longest and the tallest, so it's 23 feet long, it's nine and change tall. And it's a big, it's a big, empty box. 

Lesley Logan 10:07  

We've loaded it up. We have pictures of you and the empty box. 

Brad Crowell 10:09  

The only thing that we did was throw things on the floor. There was nothing else in there. We literally had a mattress with six blankets on it, right? And then we had boxes and suitcases. 

Lesley Logan 10:21  

Everything had to be tied on the walls. 

Brad Crowell 10:23  

We took our, we took our, this is so fun, we raided our own laundry room because in the laundry room we have one of those wheelie situations where you could throw your dirty laundry, but then you could hang clean laundry up at the top. So I took that out of the laundry room, and I zip tied it to the wall of the van, bungee corded it to the wall of the van, and that became like, how did we store? How did we do our clothes, you know? So, like, that was our closet. 

Lesley Logan 10:49  

It was crazy, because then we were driving back with all these boxes, I just felt like everything was gonna fly on us. Anyways, so, Erika Quest shout out to Erika Quest, she had a dream about us the night we were sleeping in Vail, because we're in the Walmart parking in Vail. So we pull into this Walmart parking lot in Vail, and I'm in the bed. Went into the six blankets. We got the three dogs. You're under the blankets. It's great. It's actually fine, because, like, we blasted the heat. Everything's fine. 

Brad Crowell 11:11  

I mean, it was cold, like cold in your face, but it was like the mummy bags when you went camping as a kid. 

Lesley Logan 11:16  

Yeah. So, so great. So anyways, we're halfway through the night, we're sleeping so good and then August stands up to turn around in the bed, and he basically just twists all the blankets off of us. And in that instant, you and I both were awake. 

Brad Crowell 11:29  

I was so angry. 

Lesley Logan 11:29  

And so angry and so cold. 

Brad Crowell 11:30  

Because I had just gone to sleep. It was midnight when I pulled in, and then I was literally asleep for two hours, and then he pulled all the blankets off of all of us by twirling around. And I was so frustrated about it, and it was eight degrees out, and I was like, screw it, we're just gonna continue to drive to Denver.

Lesley Logan 11:47  

Erika Quest had a dream that night that we were cold. She had a dream that we were really cold. And I said, well, you don't have to worry, because Brad drove us to Denver, where it was a little bit warmer. 

Brad Crowell 11:56  

It was 30 degrees in Denver, it was so much warmer. 

Lesley Logan 11:58  

So much more tolerable to sleep in. At any rate, we, like, got across the country, and people are like, oh, I wish you were doing the tour. And it's like, yeah, well, it's COVID. It's very unsafe, we cannot do it. But we were able to plan how much driving is possible. What do we want to do, and how we want to do this. And then, we did in 2021.

Brad Crowell 12:14  

We suppose, oh, that was '21. 

Lesley Logan 12:17  

Yeah. So then, 2021, we were vaccinated, we were ready. We planned this whole tour, but we planned a small one. It was actually, I don't think it was as big as our first one, because. 

Brad Crowell 12:28  

No, it was only like. 

Lesley Logan 12:30  

Seven cities or something like that, because we, we, I think our first stop was going to be Pennsylvania.

Brad Crowell 12:34  

It was Philly, New York, like, city, Atlanta, Miami, Dallas. We were talking about Providence, but we postponed it, so it was only five. 

Lesley Logan 12:45  

It was really small. And we actually had to cancel Philly and New York City, because along the route, I was exposed to COVID. I didn't know that I had it. And thankfully, someone texted me, and everything was going crazy at the time that variant came up. So we still did the tour. It was quite small. The (inaudible) happened and. 

Brad Crowell 13:03  

We have way more time at my parents house than we normally do.

Lesley Logan 13:07  

A lot of time it was super fun, but we knew we're like, like, we want these tours to be a thing. And I ought to share this with you, because when you're being it till you see it, way of doing things, this is how long goals can take. 

Brad Crowell 13:17  

2018 was our first cross country drive. 2019 was the first tour, 2020 was canceled. 2021 was, was. 

Lesley Logan 13:25  

Was already going to be a smaller tour, because of the pandemic. 

Brad Crowell 13:29  

It was five stops max. 

Lesley Logan 13:31  

And by the way, every stop we picked were like huge spaces that's why they were picked.

Brad Crowell 13:35  

Yeah, we actually picked large rooms. 

Lesley Logan 13:37  

Huge spaces. The Philly one was like softball, baseball, indoor practice arena, it was like 3000 square feet.

Brad Crowell 13:42  

I think they only started vaccinating people a couple months prior. 

Lesley Logan 13:45  

No, this summer we got vaccinated. 

Brad Crowell 13:47  

It was the summer, yeah. Six months.

Lesley Logan 13:49  

Yeah, so, but there was the booster, and then there's the thing. Anyways, because it was the holidays, we wanted to be conscientious. We want to make sure people felt safe. So we're like, these studios are massive, and we're only filling half the spaces. So at any rate, we really kind of got sidelined on that first half of that tour, but we got to do it. We got to do the second half, and we got to do Miami, Atlanta and Dallas, but then we were able to meet up with Balanced Body in the march of the next year. We got to tell them what we were doing. Got to get them really excited, and that's when we actually got to actually start to make our tours even bigger and better and add the Summer Tour.

Brad Crowell 14:25  

So that was tour number four. 

Lesley Logan 14:27  

Tour number four was our first Summer Tour.

Brad Crowell 14:28  

It was the first with Balanced Body. That was the first Summer Tour. And we've been telling Balanced Body about these tours from the beginning. 

Lesley Logan 14:35  

October of 2019, I told them what we were doing, and Ken and Al were like, oh, can you put a Reformer in that van? Anyways, all this to say this was like years in the making. And we'll, and next episode, we'll actually go into a bit about, like, why we work with a sponsor, what our tours have like become because they are bigger. They used to be, like, two weeks long, eight cities, five cities, and then they became 14 and 18 and 22 and and now we're getting like, 800 people to come and some amazing things. 

Lesley Logan 15:05  

I want to wrap this up with some, be it action items, because I think that that's what is really important. So you'll do some, Brad, I'll do some. We never get to do, but that's, this will buy me time, because I didn't prepare you for this. One of the best things I could say is take a note of when those little things go, oh, I want to do something like that, even if you're like, wow, that's crazy. Why would I even think of that idea? It's such a crazy idea. Pay attention to those crazy nudges and then make it something that's possible to do now, because a lot of people come with an idea, oh, I'm gonna go on a book tour and I'm gonna have sponsors, and have this, and have this. We literally had like, two prizes. We had no sponsors. 

Brad Crowell 15:44  

Yeah, I think, I think you might have got called Toesox and, or, you know, like.

Lesley Logan 15:48  

Yeah, I called Toesox and Carbon38. 

Brad Crowell 15:50  

And we just said, hey, can you give us some socks? That was the cool thing. We want to do a giveaway. 

Lesley Logan 15:55  

We didn't have any paid sponsors. We didn't have local vendors coming through. We did not make anything bigger. 

Brad Crowell 16:01  

We also didn't even know that that was what we should turn into. It was more like, initially, it was an excuse to not fly and drive across the country, and then it grew. And each tour became more complex. 

Lesley Logan 16:16  

I think the Be It Action Item was like, don't over complicate something, just try the smallest version of the idea out that has the intentionality of what you want. We wanted to bring the community together, and we wanted to get across the country. And the original tours basically paid for the gas.

Brad Crowell 16:32  

Not even exaggerating, they paid for the gas. And the one hotel that we stayed at. Initially, that was the vision. It was literally like, how do we pay for gas? Oh, let's teach a class. Great. We made $200 on it, let's pay the gas.

Lesley Logan 16:45  

How do we make sure the holiday trip is a write off? Let's work a few to have, you, technically it's some work 50% of the trip, and then it's a write off. So make sure you talk to your accountant. But anyways, so my Be It Action Item is do the least complex version of the idea and see if you'd like it. Because each time we did the tour, we'd get from like Philly to Nashville in a night, that was insane we're like we're never doing that again. 

Lesley Logan 17:09  

Like Texarkana or something weird. I remember that. 

Lesley Logan 17:11  

Yes, and we've like 12 hours to get from Nashville to there. 

Brad Crowell 17:14  

We drove 14 hours in one day. That was brutal. 

Lesley Logan 17:17  

Yeah, that was brutal, because we had to teach so, so we learned from by making it not complex, we actually got to learn a lot more. That's really helped us. You'll hear about how the tours have changed. What's your Be It Action Item?

Brad Crowell 17:28  

Okay. So my Be It Action Item, with that, I was gonna say take messy action but I mean, that's, we're pretty famous for that. I think that persistency, you know, like we didn't know the studio owners that we were trying to teach at? It wasn't like we were calling our friends in random cities and being like, hey, can we teach there? We started just reaching out to people and saying here's what our idea is. Is this of interest to you? And it was because we were persistent that we even found a location. Because I remember it was like, No. It was like, oh, okay, all right. Well, I guess this is the wrong location. No problem. We'll find another. Because for us, we knew, okay, this is the right stop, you know, this is approximately when we would want to be stopping driving for the day, when we should be teaching somewhere near here. How do we find a spot? You know, and working backwards, there's some logic there. But also we still have to find the people. We still have to meet the people, and then we have to be creative with the marketing. I remember at first we were like, We don't know anybody in Libertyville, Ohio. How can we, you know, connect with people, or Strongsville, Ohio, sorry, yeah, you're right. And I remember we started using Instagram hashtags to just hunt down Pilates people in the area and just leave it in voice notes, like. 

Lesley Logan 18:45  

That was very, we were very persistent. You're correct, very persistent. And then I think, just to tack onto that, and then we'll wrap this up, because we'll tell you more on the next episode, not being afraid of rejection. One of the things we had to do was, like, you're gonna have stops turn you away. Like, no, I don't want to do that. We had people go, why are you doing that? They were like, really sketchy about us. 

Brad Crowell 19:04  

We just had it happen yesterday with our eighth tour coming up, where someone you know was like, actually, this is the wrong time of the year for my clients. So no, he's like, oh, okay. 

Lesley Logan 19:14  

It's not personal,. All right, loves. Well, stay tuned for how these tours have gotten to be bigger and even better and better for you, and better for my sleep and all those things in our next episode. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. 

Brad Crowell 19:29  

Bye for now. 

Lesley Logan 19:31  

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Brad Crowell 20:13  

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Brad Crowell 20:23  

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Lesley Logan 20:30  

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Brad Crowell 20:33  

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Episode Transcript:

Lesley Logan 0:00  

It's Fuck Yeah Friday. 

Lesley Logan 0:01  

Fuck yeah.

Lesley Logan 0:05  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 0:48  

Hi, Be It babe. Hello, happy Fuck Yeah Friday. If this is your first time with Be It Till You See It podcast, hi, I'm Lesley Logan. I'm so happy you're here. I'm really excited about just, literally, the amazing reviews we're getting, and how many people who've been guests on this pod love this pod, so that flatters me, but that means that you're here because someone told you about this. And so, thank you for being here. And on Fridays, we keep it light, we keep it bright, we keep it short, and we get to the point, because you have a lot going on, but this is supposed to be just a moment in your week when you just take time to realize what could be wins, what could be inspiring, that there are things out there always happening for us, right? 

Lesley Logan 1:24  

So I start this off with something that inspired me on the internet, and then I share some wins that you sent in. I share a win of mine, and then I leave you with a mantra. Boom, we got four chapters. 

Lesley Logan 1:33  

So this particular one that caught my eye, this is actually the second time this one's caught my eye. Her name is Kim Mulkey. She's a coach for LSU. You're probably like, Lesley, I got it. And if you don't listen to sports, then you might not know. But she got my eye a week ago, and I didn't put it in the FYFs because it's kind of just miffed me. But she, you know, she's talking about how she lost in one of the March Madness things, and she's like, oh, it's bad. And he goes, well, yeah, I mean, you lost. And she's like, well, have you ever made it to Round Eight? And, you know, anything? And he's like, no. She's like, well, then sounds like we did pretty much better than you. I just like that she clapped back. So I was like, ah, like, this woman, she's spicy. Anyways, this came across that she brings baby gifts to every coach on opposing teams that she's playing against who are expecting. And because ultimately, she believes, like we're on the same team. And I think it's so cool that this woman can take a moment outside of the competition to go, I see you mama over there. And here's a gift from me, because the reality is, is like, all these different women who choose to have children in their life, and they want to do that, and they want to coach, and they want to, at this elite level, they need their team. And so I just think that it's really cool, and what a badass she is. She claps back at stupid reporter questions, and she takes the time before a game to go and give the opposing coaches, this is like, there's multiple videos of her doing this, not just one coach, opposing coaches on other teams who are expecting, a baby gift. And I just think that's cool. You know, I'm not a mama, but I think that's really amazing. 

Lesley Logan 3:00  

So now let's go to some wins of yours. By the way, my team really tries to link in the show notes these posts, if you actually want to see them. They exist. Okay, so from Mindi, Bendy Mindi, and also Mindi's Closet, she went, Pilates On Tour here in Colorado was an incredible for my clothing biz. Because of that, I will be able to go, be going to the Chicago P.O.T. in October. I love combining my passions and meeting so many wonderful people in the process. Thank you, LL and Brad, for your continued support and encouragement. You guys, it's really easy to go, oh, that thing that I want to do that could grow my business is actually an investment I can't afford right now, and be afraid to make that, and then also to make the investment, and go, ooh, I just did it. Only how's it gonna turn out? But not only did she do it, took her, you know, she felt the fear, and she did it anyway, but she actually had such a success. We're at a booth right next to her. We got to watch how successful the event was. And as someone that we get to coach, we actually got to talk about, okay, how do you make this win propel you to the next event? And that's something we work on in Agency, because it's really easy to go, oh my God, I got all this like, I got this windfall, and then spend it on places before you reinvest in your business. We did this with our flash cards. It was really easy for us to support her on. So we'll get to have a booth next to her in October in Chicago, and she gets to continue to grow this amazing side business she has. It's really inspiring to others. I'm actually currently wearing one of her shirts. She actually made it for the OPC team. Look at how cute that is, if you're watching, how cute that is. So cute. Anyways, go Mindi. So excited. 

Lesley Logan 4:25  

Let's get you another win, you guys. This one is from Stacey Extence. She says, my wins after encouragement from LL. I did something I've never done, sent a message to people I know in my area via Facebook Messenger. I sent my flyer for a fundraising event I'm doing for CCP, inviting them to join. I got several responses from folks who I wasn't expecting. I'm receiving their email so I can include them in future announcements. Got my flyer printed and we'll place it in the studio tomorrow for the fundraiser, and began planning my open house after having a wonderful call with Mindi. I love how community works together, you guys. Received some great advice and ideas to base my open house on, had my annual mammogram. Woohoo for self-care. One new client who's been attending my beginner series weekly is new to Pilate and is loving it. She messages after each class letting me know how thankful she is for giving Pilates a try. She also wants to stick with my classes. And one new beginner, semi-private client, was the only person in class last week. I did a pivot during the session because of her tight hamstrings. I proved my knowledge about the session by focusing on strengthening and lengthening her back line. At the end of the class, she inquired about privates, hoping I can talk her into adding those into her schedule. Woohoo. I love that you did that pivot so that she could see the power of what can happen when things are tailored to her. I love that you call your annual mammogram a win because it is. Ladies, we gotta do these things. Thank you for reminding me to set mine up. I also would like to just say, like way to do the thing that feels weird. You DM people you didn't know. You email people you didn't know. These are the things that people don't do because they get scared of it, and you did it. And I promise you, even if those people don't return those emails, you're, you're telling the energy around you. I am accepting new clients. Look at the space I'm creating, look at what I'm doing to tell people who I am and what I rock at. So Stacey, that does work itself out, I promise you, it always, always does. It works in like, mysterious ways, which I love. Thank you for sharing, ladies. 

Lesley Logan 6:14  

All right, a win of mine. So actually, this is a really fun one. I was just talking to Brad before I got to record this, and I was like, okay, I need some wins. And one of the wins that we wanted to share with you guys is that we have been protesting and having fun doing it. We don't have control over what the dickheads are doing in this planet that are fucking with like everything and excuse my language, but even if you don't agree with me on a lot of things, I think what we can agree with is I'm worried about my parents retirement. I'm worried about my family's retirement. I'm worried about that, right? Like I'm worried, I'm not worried about mine, because I'm not retiring anytime soon, but I'm worried about the people who it affects right now. And I can call and I can email and I can bitch and I can moan, or I could do something, and what I can do is on a Saturday protest, and so we actually went to our first protest in April, and it was really fun, and we've been doing it ever since, and it feels good. I highly recommend finding a protest near you, because it feels good to shout out the thing that is like pissing you off and to be around people who are also equally pissed off, but more importantly, not in a way that you're just like being Debbie Downers and just being negative, like actually doing something about it, because we can't take them out of their jobs. So what can we do? And it's really important, because it's helping people feel so seen people who don't have the ability to protest, people who who are being affected like they are, like seeing people fight for them, and that gives them hope. And I think it's really cool. Also, we told people we're protesting, and we ran into other people who we know, who we didn't know were going to be there. So we end up having a wonderful afternoon, spending time with our friends, who are all usually too busy to see, doing something that didn't cost us anything but our time, right? It didn't cost us money. We had to buy a ticket. We didn't have to go to a fancy dinner. We actually got to walk around a neighborhood, really bring attention to things that are bothering us. And so I am so excited that we got to do that, because it just felt like, you know, in 2016 when these were happening, I was traveling so much, I didn't get to participate in that. And then I remember when these were coming up, I was like, I don't even know how to do this. Like, where do I go? So I was doing a lot of research on, like, what to bring to a protest. What can you say? All these different things. And I highly recommend reading those accounts if you want to do it. But I will just say, if you are feeling like you don't have community, find a protest, you will immediately feel like you have it. It was so good. And that is my win. 

Lesley Logan 8:21  

Okay. Your mantra. I seek out mystery in the ordinary. I seek out mystery in the ordinary. I seek out mystery in the ordinary. You guys, you probably are like my days are boring. No, seek, like, be curious about that. There's probably something new you never even knew was there. Thank you so much for being you. Thank you for listening to this podcast. You are part of its growth and its success, but the more it succeeds, the more it means we can bring to you to support you on your journey of being the person you want to be before waiting for someone to deem you. At this podcast, we do not wait for someone to deem us ready, we act as if we are and we do it scared, we take messy action and we celebrate the wins we have big and small, right? We celebrate them big and small. And so thank you so much for being a listener, and until next time, Be It Till You See It. 

Lesley Logan 9:10  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.

Brad Crowell 9:53  

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Lesley Logan 9:58  

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Brad Crowell 10:02  

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Lesley Logan 10:09  

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Brad Crowell 10:12  

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What happens when growth isn't driven by hustle, but by intention? Lesley and Brad unpack Launa Jae’s take on emotional self-awareness, authentic evolution, and what it means to truly live in alignment. Tune in for a refreshing take on messy action, redefining success, and practicing what you preach. This recap reminds you that progress can be sustainable when it comes from self-trust.

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• Why limiting distractions supports peace, clarity, and intention.

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Episode Transcript:

Lesley Logan 0:00  

We're all human. You can't change everything about yourself all at one time. You have to pick and choose and go, okay, well, what can I do here? Like, if you look at BJ Fogg, if he's like, I'm frustrated because I'm working on this project and I'm not sleeping enough, so I want to sleep better. He actually was like, okay, how, what are all the different ways I could sleep better? Well, he's not going to do all of those things. He, actually, to make a habit, had to go what are the three easiest things of what I just came up with that I want to do, and then how can I do that?

Lesley Logan 0:26  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 1:09  

Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the hilariously intentional convo I had with Launa Jae in our last episode. If you haven't listened to that one you've missed the fuck out.

Brad Crowell 1:21  

You totally missed out. 

Lesley Logan 1:22  

It's so good. I mean, we're two good friends, so that's always a fun conversation to be in. But also, she just has the most hilarious way of putting things in a way that just makes you stop and take it all in. And we are just obsessed with her. So anyway, 

Brad Crowell 1:36  

Yes, 100%.

Lesley Logan 1:37  

If you're not following her on Instagram, you are missing out, because her stories are my favorite. Every morning, to this day, she still does good morning to everyone except and it's something, and then there's other people who also do this and tag her, and so she reposts theirs. And then I just die laughing. So anyways, you gotta go follow her. Gotta go follow her. I promise you, it's really great. And she gives great tips and great hacks on gaining protein in your life, because all, y'all ladies over 40, it's a fucking feat to get enough protein every day.

Brad Crowell 2:04  

And if you're watching YouTube, I'm wearing a shirt you referenced.

Lesley Logan 2:08  

Oh, that's so funny. What a great timing. 

Brad Crowell 2:11  

Yeah, punch nails, I'm sorry, paint nails, punch Nazis. 

Lesley Logan 2:14  

We should have that guy on the pod. 

Brad Crowell 2:16  

We should have that guy on the pod.

Lesley Logan 2:17  

Yeah, we should send him.

Brad Crowell 2:19  

We'll work that out.

Lesley Logan 2:20  

His name, I think, is Jonathan Gregory or Gregory Jonathan, it's one of those handles that I'm like, he must have gotten famous after he made this weird handle. So, yeah, I gotta get him on. Okay, let's get back to, (inaudible) first we're going to talk about how today is June 5th, my dad's birthday.

Brad Crowell 2:35  

Oh, it is your dad's birthday.

Lesley Logan 2:38  

Brad. He's like, oh my God, all these days. It's like, this person's from the reality TV show day. I'm like, how does that person have a day and I don't have a day?

Brad Crowell 2:45  

It was Veggie Burger Day, and at the same exact day, Sausage Roll Day. I was like, did they do that on purpose? I think they did.

Lesley Logan 2:52  

I think Launa Jae would agree that you could have a veggie burger or a sausage roll. If you are doing your protein, right, you can. But today is Happy Birthday, Dad. You are 73. Way to go. But it's also World Environment Day. This day urges all of us to protect our natural surroundings. The stunning facts, an estimated 7 million people die each year from causes related to air pollution, with a majority occurring in the Asian Pacific region. This day encourages worldwide activism that means everything from littering to climate change. World Environment Day is both a global celebration and a platform for public outreach. You guys, plant plants that are local to your freaking place. That is one of the best things you can do. You know, it's really great, because in the water, we live in Vegas, we are increasingly aware of our water, what plants we have. On windy days, you got to go out there and pick up the trash, like, take care of the world around you. It's really hard when you think about, like, oh my God, the global warming. I can't, we can't fix everything, so you got to at least get your neighbors on board. How much water are you using? How much are you planting? How much trash are we throwing away, you know.

Brad Crowell 3:54  

Yeah, get rid of your grass in your front yard, you don't need it.

Lesley Logan 3:56  

Yeah, get rid of it. Also. It doesn't even absorb water. There was a whole episode on the Love It or Lose It odcast years ago about how actual grass is not trapping water. So that was news to me.

Brad Crowell 4:09  

Yeah, you know, 

Lesley Logan 4:10  

Educate yourself on little things you can do.

Brad Crowell 4:12  

Well, it's a hill that the city of Vegas is dying on. They enacted a law that says you have to, by 2026, I think all front yards have to be non-grass.

Lesley Logan 4:22  

Yeah, we got a neighbor, you guys, their grass is so green all year long. And it is infuriating to me. It's infuriating to me. First of all, when I walk the dog in the morning, though the sidewalk is soaking wet because of how they water, and how they water is why their grass is so green. And it's not like a little yard. It's like a full on eighth of an acre of grass. It's perfectly green.

Brad Crowell 4:42  

I know exactly which house you mean. 

Lesley Logan 4:43  

Yeah, oh, yeah. And because they water so much, there's something wrong with their sidewalk, it's literally slippery. You can literally slip while walking. And I'm just like, I can't wait till this grass is gone. I'm going to report you. January 1st 2026, first day I see that grass. My neighbor has grass.

Brad Crowell 4:59  

I don't know if it's Jan. 21 or Jan. 1st, but, yeah.

Lesley Logan 5:00  

I'm gonna be that Karen. That's the Karen I'm gonna be. 

Brad Crowell 5:05  

That's the Karen (inaudible). 

Lesley Logan 5:06  

If you got fucking front yard grass, I'm coming. Anyways, these are the things we can do and educate yourself on your water usage, but also, just like what you can do in your environment, you know, we all can't drive electric cars. All that, it's not, don't worry about the things you can't do, focus on the things you can. And it actually feels really great. Okay, oh, we have events. You guys, we're going on tour.

Brad Crowell 5:27  

Yeah, we got a lot going on. 

Lesley Logan 5:28  

You'll hear more about that soon, but the tickets are already for sale, they've been on sale for a couple weeks. And it's a huge Summer Tour. It's not a small Summer Tour, it's a huge Summer Tour. But the spaces are limited, because when you go to cities on the West Coast, what you will learn, like some places in the northeast, is that rent is hard and expensive, and so spaces are small, which means space is limited. So you want to get in on this tour and snag your spots and the classes and workshops before they sell out, opc.me/events.

Brad Crowell 5:55  

opc.me/events 

Lesley Logan 5:56  

Also, I really think our tour shirt is epic.

Brad Crowell 5:59  

It's a really cool tour shirt. I'm very excited about this. 

Lesley Logan 6:02  

This is my new favorite thing. I look up tour shirts from other things, and then I tell the team do this. And I don't think anyone notices what I'm doing, but I know what I'm doing. And then in September, you guys, we're going to be in the U.K. Leeds only has a few spots left. Essex, we actually opened up the opportunity to do day spot. So you can either do the full day Tuesday, the full day Wednesday, you want to go to opc.me/uk and again, also, not very many spots. So if you do the full weekend pass, or two day pass, you get six workshops, two classes. But if you do the day pass, you get three workshops and a class. So you want to snag those spots. We're not coming back for quite a bit, not because we don't like you, just.

Brad Crowell 6:43  

Don't know when. Do not know when.

 . 

Lesley Logan 6:45  

Don't know when. That's how the world goes. 

Brad Crowell 6:46  

Last time we waited two years.

Lesley Logan 6:49  

Yeah. Also, before summer tour and U.K., I'm hosting a workout and a Q&A session for teachers, this is for Pilates teachers who are interested in my mentorship program. We are more than half sold out at the time that we are recording this. In fact, like, not, there's actually not a lot of spots in next year, but we're going to. 

Brad Crowell 7:06  

Yeah, there's literally, there's less than nine spots left.

Lesley Logan 7:09  

Yeah, so less than nine spots. And we're gonna have.

Brad Crowell 7:11  

I say that because I'm talking to a handful of people, and there are currently nine, and I think they're going to be booked, so.

Lesley Logan 7:17  

Yeah. Yeah. So here's the deal, go to lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlist to get on the waitlist to get the information about the free class and the Q&A session. If you are someone who wants to take the class and ask questions, that's gonna be great. If you're someone who's like, I want in on this. I don't want to wait. Well, you know how to hunt us down, because that's clearly how it's filling up behind closed doors. But lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlist this is for comprehensively trained teachers who want to not freaking talk so much, be in imposter syndrome, over work themselves out, all the things, yeah, come and join us. Okay, Brad, your turn.

Brad Crowell 7:53  

All right. So I'm very excited to make this special announcement. We have decided to bring back Agency Mini.

Lesley Logan 8:01  

I know you guys, this is really exciting. We said, no, it's done, and it was, and it, actually, the Agency, Mini, you know, and was very loved.

Brad Crowell 8:09  

It's still done. 

Lesley Logan 8:09  

It's still done. This is a, this is a new Mini, new and improved. 

Brad Crowell 8:13  

This is a mini Mini. 

Lesley Logan 8:14  

It's like, it's a, it is a mini mini. An M-I-N-I M-I-N-I mini Mini. And that is because we took all the, all the things people loved about Mini, and got rid of all the things people didn't love about Mini. So no more Facebook groups, no more seven days. No more overwhelm. This is a three-day Mini. You're gonna get a workshop on day one. You have homework on day two. You will have a office, a group call on day three, there's like couple extra days of replays you'll have some access to, and that's it, and it's (claps) awesome, quick.

Brad Crowell 8:47  

Easy and effective and really exciting. What we're going to be digging into is some of the foundational marketing things that you need to know on how to attract your own clients. Like, how do I attract the right clients for me, clients that actually want to work with, clients who pay me without complaining, clients who show up on time. How do I do all of that? Right? And we're going to dig in. I cannot wait. This is one of the, one of the favorite topics that Lesley and I have spoken on over the years.

Lesley Logan 9:13  

And if, even if you're like, oh, I slay at my marketing, if you don't actually help the clients you want to be teaching, or people who treat you or making the money you want to make, you need to be at this Mini, because we're going to actually fill in the holes. We're like, oh, I didn't do that. Oh, that's the thing. It's going to be amazing.

Brad Crowell 9:28  

Yeah. So by the time this comes out, I think we're still on the waitlist, believe it or not. So it'll be.

Lesley Logan 9:34  

The early bird will be opening, like, in the next week or two, so you probably want to go to prfit.biz/mini, to get on the waitlist, and or if it's open, you'll see how to buy in right there. It's going to be in July, the middle of July, before we take off on tour, and it's going.

Brad Crowell 9:47  

Early bird is 25 bucks. So don't miss it. 

Lesley Logan 9:50  

Yeah. Don't miss it, because we don't want you to actually pay the full price. That's why we have the early bird. We want you to plan ahead.

Brad Crowell 9:54  

60% off. 

Lesley Logan 9:55  

Yeah, I love how we did this out of calendar order today. But you know what? It keeps you on your toes.

Brad Crowell 10:01  

What? 

Lesley Logan 10:02  

Well, we started with the tour, which is after Mini.

Brad Crowell 10:04  

Oh yeah 100%. We did. 

Lesley Logan 10:06  

Anyways. But for sure, at the end of this year is Cambodia in October. You guys, if this is your first time hearing about this, and you've never heard about how amazing our retreat in Siem Reap is, it's amazing. If you have heard us every single week, you know it's amazing. And if you're like I really want to do this, come, come, come, come. I know everything is crazy and uncertain. Let me just tell you right now, the flight prices to Asia are the same, whether you buy them today or six weeks before. Why? Because people have done that. Want you to go to crowsnestretreats.com to snag your spot because the small group, we're taking a very, very small group this October, we want you there, and it's going to be such a great time to just get rid of all the chaos and be in the coolest place in the whole world. 

Brad Crowell 10:45  

It's so true and it's so cool. 

Lesley Logan 10:46  

We've been to a lot of places. 

Brad Crowell 10:47  

If you want to deep dive on that, go back a couple weeks and there's some solo episodes from Lesley and from me about our love for why we do this trip, all the things. So dig in on that. All right. Well, before we get any further, we had an audience question. So @emilyanahata from YouTube asks, hey, how do I know which chair is the right for me? And I'm assuming she's talking about a Pilates chair. What are some questions I can ask myself to get a better idea? Thank you. And I am going to jump in. I'm just going to say, traditionally, you want a chair that has four legs, right? And then maybe a seat. That'll be good. That's the kind of chair you want. Those are great questions. Doesn't have four. You might be able to get away with three, but I don't think two is going to cut it.

Lesley Logan 11:30  

No, yeah, the three, that's more like a stool. 

Brad Crowell 11:34  

That's a stool. 

Lesley Logan 11:34  

Yeah. Okay, so this is really great. And actually, she followed up with some really interesting questions, which is, like, she's heard that, like, should she get a Split Pedal EXO Chair? She did this. And so I actually followed up with like, are you a teacher? So here's the deal, what I know is, I'm gonna answer this in two ways. If you're a teacher, then you actually should get the Chair that best suits your style of teaching. And what I often see teachers do is they get a Chair that they can afford versus a Chair that was designed for their self-teaching. If, so Emily's not a teacher, so the Split Pedal, if you were trained to teach on Split Pedals, if you like to teach on Split Pedals, then get a Chair with Split Pedals, because you'll be annoyed that the pedal doesn't split, it doesn't do what you want. But if you are not trained on a Split Pedal, then the Split Pedal is actually going to be frustrating, because it's going to feel different, sound different than what you're used to. And Emily's not a teacher, so then it's just going to be confusing, and then she won't use a Chair without having been trained on how to use the Chair. And I want people who love Pilates to have access at home to equipment that they want and they can use, and it's not confusing. So this is not a knock against Split Pedals EXO Chairs. Obviously, we know and love Balanced Body. We are, we have affiliate links with them. We are dear, dear friends with the founders, and we are sponsored for the tour. So get that if you want to use it, but if you are just like, I want to get stronger. I want to work on my posture. I want to work on my strength. My suggestion is going to be the Contrology Chair because without seeing you, Emily, the dimensions are great for every body, no matter if you're big or small, hyper mobile, tall or short, the pedal angle is just really great.

Brad Crowell 13:11  

It's also very solid. 

Lesley Logan 13:12  

It's really solid. 

Brad Crowell 13:13  

You're not gonna have to worry about it, like, you know.

Lesley Logan 13:15  

And it's super, it's not confusing. You don't have four springs to choose from. Like, I find that if you are not trained as a teacher on that equipment, it becomes confusing. If there's lots of spring choices, it's two springs, three hooks on either side. Really easy to figure out what you need to be doing. But for anyone listening, having a chair that's right for you, the easiest answer is like, I just love a Contrology, I love a Contrology Chair. You can stand on it. I could put a heavy person on it, I could put a tall person on it. It's gonna be great. Put a short person on it.

Brad Crowell 13:40  

I did a handstand on one.

Lesley Logan 13:42  

Yeah, you totally did it, and it was fine. But questions to ask yourself are, is the pedal angle gonna be appropriate for the height and flexibility of my hips? Right? Is the top of the chair big enough to support my full seat? Can I lay on it on my front? Can I lay it on my back? Does the Chair feel sturdy if I stand on top, if I go to step on top of it does it feel like it's sturdy? Some of these Chairs are really light. I've seen some interesting ones now that are floating around that are a few 100 bucks. I worry about the weight of the body. I'm not talking a larger body. I'm talking like just any body. So some questions to ask yourself, are like, can it withstand the weight of my body standing on it, and then can I adjust the springs tension so that it meets me where I am, or is it like kind of the same spring tension, whether you use like, if you only have one or two? So anyways, those are some things to ask yourself, but always happy to give you my links, you guys, to anything that Balanced Body makes, and that's our Contrology line as well. 

Brad Crowell 14:37  

Yeah, awesome, well. 

Lesley Logan 14:39  

I just want to say I love that she's gonna get herself a Chair, because everyone's so fucking obsessed with having a home reformer. And then they're like, I need it to fit under my bed. And it's like, uh, no, if you have a small space, get a Wunda Chair, get a Spine Corrector, get a Two by Four, get a Sand bag, get a Ped-o-Pull. So many things you can get yourself, and then you could go take a Reformer at a studio, right? Okay.

Brad Crowell 14:58  

I dig it. Well, look. Stick around. We'll be right back. 

Lesley Logan 15:01  

Oh, Brad, hold on. 

Brad Crowell 15:02  

What? 

Lesley Logan 15:02  

You guys, we have a link for you guys to submit your questions, because some of you have been like, how do I submit my question? 

Brad Crowell 15:08  

Yes, we do. 

Lesley Logan 15:08  

Where do I submit them? And it is. 

Brad Crowell 15:10  

We totally do. 

Lesley Logan 15:12  

beitpod.com/questions you can also send. 

Brad Crowell 15:16  

beitpod.com/questions plural. 

Lesley Logan 15:17  

You can also submit your wins. There's a spot whether it's a question or a win. So, beitpod.com/questions with the s at the end and then send it. 

Brad Crowell 15:25  

Yeah, submit your wins. Submit your question. 

Lesley Logan 15:27  

Yep, anything, anything goes. Sometimes it doesn't have to be Pilates-related. Anything goes. 

Brad Crowell 15:30  

Good job. Good remembering.

Lesley Logan 15:31  

Let's talk about Launa. 

Brad Crowell 15:33  

Stick around. We'll be right back, because we're gonna talk about shit and rainbows in just a minute. 

Brad Crowell 15:38  

Okay, welcome back. Let's talk about Launa Jae. Launa is a Dallas-based nutrition and fitness coach who specializes in helping people get unstuck without feeling restricted. What does that mean? She is an anti-diet coach and a food freedom expert for high-achieving women. She's passionate about helping others make progress, stay accountable and create sustainable results in both health and in life, and she's hilarious, like, hilarious.

Lesley Logan 16:09  

She's so funny. That's why the shit and rainbows come from. Also, she, you could even listen to her first episode being on here. Like, there's just so many things that she says, and her descriptive words are perfect. So one of the things that I love that she said is negative emotion is literally just an indication that you're out of alignment with who you are in your true inner being, experiencing debilitating negative emotions that led to stress, and then that led to physical illness. And then she realized a common denominator in all of them was her. So she was prioritizing her to-do list over her well being. So she would wake up, check emails and prioritize her to do list and not like what she needed. And it's so fun to see her. She's obviously switched this. And so you can actually see it in her Instagram if you follow her, she's like, well, I'm at the gym. Didn't want to be here, but I'm doing the workout even though I didn't want to be here, because she's prioritizing herself, right? She's making sure she gets what she needs. And so after doing all this, she was able. I love the self-reflection. I think that's really hard to do, so I love that she self-reflected, and then she concluded that these negative feelings signaled a disconnect between her actions and her authentic self. So who she was telling people what to do for them themselves, and then what she was doing for herself. When we're when we have that dissonance, our brain doesn't like it. It is overwhelming, and we get resentful, and that's negative, right? So instead of just brushing off us having a bad day, she used those feelings as signals that something was out of alignment. And I think it's really cool, if you can figure out in your day and in your life, like, oh, when I feel like this, it's like a little yellow light, hello. This is a sign you're out of alignment. You guys, at the park that I walk the dog at every 30 minutes. This voice comes on these speakers. 

Brad Crowell 17:41  

It does? 

Lesley Logan 17:42  

Yes. 

Brad Crowell 17:42  

At our park? 

Lesley Logan 17:43  

Yes. 

Brad Crowell 17:44  

Like, over the loud speakers in the park? 

Lesley Logan 17:45  

Yes. 

Brad Crowell 17:46  

That's like, creepy.

Lesley Logan 17:47  

So fucking creepy. It's a little bit like in South Korea when I crossed the street when it was a red light, and this Korean voice, like, came out of nowhere. And I was like, I don't know what you're saying, but I could, like, in the U.S., I could cross the street right now, no one's coming. Anyways, this voice goes, dude, it's like, do-ding-do and then she goes, da-da-da-da-da. She, I don't know what she's saying, but the point of this whole story is, like, find something in your day that can be a sign that, like, oop, I've stepped over the line of being out of alignment. And it could go ding-dong-ding-ding-ding-ding.

Brad Crowell 18:22  

I don't really know what's happening right now.

Lesley Logan 18:23  

Listen, let me finish. Let me finish. You are out of alignment. You haven't prioritized yourself. 

Brad Crowell 18:29  

Like an elevator chime.

Lesley Logan 18:30  

Yes, like an elevator chime. And then like a lovely.

Brad Crowell 18:33  

You are out of alignment. This, to me, is like a sci-fi movie where it's like, welcome to the ground floor. And then, like.

Lesley Logan 18:41  

You, Brad, you said you wanted to cold plunge, and you have not done that yet, turn around, go back in there, take care of yourself first.

Brad Crowell 18:51  

You will hate yourself later if you don't cold plunge now. 

Lesley Logan 18:54  

You're gonna complain later and Lesley is gonna roll her eyes, you know. So she found her way of understanding that she's out of alignment. We all need a little flashing light, elevator sound, woman in the park. I wish I can tell you what she's saying.

Brad Crowell 19:07  

Woman in the park coming at you with surround sound.

Lesley Logan 19:11  

Yeah, it's really rare. It's really weird. It's probably saying you're not supposed to be here right now.

Brad Crowell 19:14  

I know, right? The park doesn't open until 6:15. 

Lesley Logan 19:18  

A park opens when the sun rises and I'm there before it so clearly, it's for me, anyways.

Brad Crowell 19:22  

All right, so here's what I really dug. She's talking about urgency culture, and I found that an interesting term, because if it's culture, that means we created it, right? It's also it's learned. I reflected a lot about this, like, wow, there is a sense of we're only here on this planet one time. So I get that, like, driving, like, gotta get things done, you know, kind of a vibe. But also, too, I think if you look at the difference between the United States and Europe on on how people work, you know, we work 40 hours a week. We never take vacations. We work when we're sick, all these kinds of things that are way different from a mentality, from a cultural perspective, the idea of urgency culture kind of scares me. That's not an exciting thing to think about. It also made me reflect on how caught up am I in that myself? 

Lesley Logan 20:14  

Oh, yeah.

Brad Crowell 20:15  

This idea of never taken any time off or constantly working. You know, we're just listening to one of our coaches, Brad Bizjak. 

Lesley Logan 20:23  

He's gonna be on the pod soon, guys, stay tuned. 

Brad Crowell 20:25  

Awesome episode coming. Really excited about that. We were listening to one of his episodes on urgency and the importance of leaving yourself time off as well. So anyway, all this being said with Launa Jae, she said, hey, we've created this never ending to do list, and it's stripping us from the human connection, from enjoying our day to day, from being present in the moment. It is funny. It's like we've decided we can, you know, be, quote-unquote, this efficient, so we can do these amount of things every day, whatever those things are, right? If you're working for a company, they always tell you schedule 80% of their expected work time, because 20% will something will get in the way, and they won't actually be able to do all the things. But we still packed in that 80% right. When we are thinking about our day in that manner, it doesn't leave any room for life to be, like, to happen, and also self-reflection. And I think that's the, when she's talking about stripping us from the human connection, enjoying the day to day, from being present in the moment. You know you have to reflect on the things that are happening to you. Like, for example, I mean, I wasn't in in the best physical, like, well-being on this day trip that we took, but we changed altitudes. I opened my water bottle and it exploded all, literally, all over my lap. So, like, and it wasn't a small amount of water. I was literally sitting in a puddle of water. And, like, I'm driving. You know, that could have been hilarious, but I was upset about it. I was, like, really frustrated.

Lesley Logan 21:54  

I started to laugh at the background. 

Brad Crowell 21:56  

You did start laughing. 

Lesley Logan 21:56  

Because we have done this before. So to me. 

Brad Crowell 21:59  

I had no idea we changed altitude. It wasn't like a thing I could check, but the realities that happened, and instead of it being funny, it was frustrating because I'm like, I have to drive, I have to do this, and I'm trying to take a drink of water, and then boom. And instead of appreciating the hilarity of the moment, I didn't, you know, when Launa Jae was talking about this, she explained, we're constantly rushing to complete tasks and focusing solely on our to-do list, which is stripping us of being present and by being intentional about what we're doing. Right? So this intentionality she's talking about then, why are we doing what, what we're doing while we're doing it, it'll help us be more present in the moment. So now she's limiting distractions. She's trying to be in the moment more. And the number one thing she said is especially because she works in social media, the number one thing she said is just limiting those notifications and hiding her phone that allows her to stay present, stay in the moment, be having a conversation and thinking about the conversation she's having. Instead of constantly being interrupted, even if you're not necessarily addressing it, you're still processing it. Your brain is still processing it in the moment. So I like that she's prioritizing peace and laughter. You know, I think those are great things.

Lesley Logan 23:10  

Yeah. If you're a high-achieving person or an ex athlete, or any of those things. I think it's so cool to listen to because we're all human. You can't change everything about yourself all at one time. You have to pick and choose and go, okay, well, what can I do here? Like, if you look at BJ Fogg, and he's like, I'm frustrated because I'm working on this project, and I'm not sleeping enough, so I want to sleep better. He actually was like, okay, how, what are the all the different ways I could sleep better? Well, he's not going to do all of those things. He, actually, to make a habit had to go what are the three easiest things of what I just came up with that I want to do? And then how can I do that? So that's how he talks about how you can make changes in your life. And so if you want to be more present, what are all the different ways you'd be more present? Well, one of the things is to limit the notifications in your phone, because you're less distracted, right? So I think it's just a really cool you can start to see yourself in different things that Launa is explaining, and then you might be able to address it as well. I got an ad for a phone booth, a phone box. It's, it's really beautiful wood, but I would it's, it's.

Brad Crowell 24:08  

What are you? What is it? 

Lesley Logan 24:09  

It looks like, it kind of looks like a hobbit door, you know, like those old, how like in Harry Potter.

Brad Crowell 24:16  

Oh, you put your phone in it?

Lesley Logan 24:17  

Yeah, and you open it up, and there's these little slats, and it could fit six phones, and then there's a hole in the back for a charging cable to come through. I looked at it as, like, well, how much is this phone booth? Because that's kind of cute. Like a place we could put our phones. We were not distracted. Like, it's a cute little box. I mean, you could probably you could probably just put them in any kind of box, you guys, because first of all, it was $75 I was like, I'm out on that. Second of all, you still have to put the cord through. So the like, to me, the box should just charge my phone. So when that happens, then I don't want to have to find more cords over the cords. But at any rate, find a place to put your phone if you want to be less distracted. 

Brad Crowell 24:51  

Love it. All right, stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to talk about those Be It Actions with Launa Jae. 

Brad Crowell 24:56  

All right, so let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Launa Jae? She said, hey, being where you are, 10 toes down. First time she said it, I understood what she said, but it took me a minute to like process it. Again, she's talking about really being present. She said, wherever those toes are, that's where your focus needs to be, right? She shared how this quote became a daily anchor for her to stay grounded in the moment instead of rushing from one task to another. I'm here, 10 toes down, right? It's a cool little phrase that allows you to be like, oh yeah, remind myself to be in the moment, to be here. She said it helps her stay present and ask herself, why am I doing the thing that I'm doing right now? Why am I doing this? Right? I'm here, so my 10 toes are down here. Is this where I should be? Why am I doing what I'm doing? Right? She also emphasized the importance of being intentional about your time and reflecting on the time that you're spending in different places. So she said this kind of purposeful focus gave her the space to reflect, process her emotions and communicate more clearly, especially in moments of stress. So, good for her. I think it's a cool little phrase. 10 toes down. She's good at those, yeah, like the horse pill without water.

Lesley Logan 26:16  

She also said to stay curious everything can teach you more about yourself. I think this is so key, because we might not like how we react to things, we might not like how something is going, but we could be curious about like, well, why don't I like that? Well, what's going on there? And there's so much information out there in this world today that you could probably figure out, like, well, what is that saying? And like, what's going on? And so I think just everything, even the things we don't like, can teach us more about ourselves. In fact, I actually think the thing things not going right, things not going well, things that blow up in our faces, like, they all kind of teach us a little bit more than like, when everything goes really well, if everything is good all the time, you kind of often don't know as much about yourself. So want to also encourage us to create awareness around where we are and get clear on where you want to go. So maybe take a second of like, okay, I'm going to this meeting. The goal of this meeting is X, Y and Z. This is why I'm going to this meeting. This is what I want. And then have some clarity there, and then be 10 toes down and reminded us that grace and consistency go a long way. That is very true. It actually is really hard to pick yourself up quickly if you're beating yourself up. The teams in sports that do the best, don't focus on yesterday's loss. They focus on the goal of today. You know, as they learn from yesterday's loss, they watch tapes, they take feedback, but if they're beating themselves up over a wrong turn or a bad pitch, they're going to take that with them into the next game, versus going okay, today's game is to beat this team, and this team is really good at x, y and z, and when I'm up against that, this is what I know because you learned about yourself. So it all goes together, and grace is and is going to help you be more consistent, for sure. And she also said there's going to be really hard days but what matters most is what you do with them. And I think that's such a good reminder.

Lesley Logan 27:53  

You know, Launa Jae, you're so fun, you're so fabulous. You guys, I think you're going to really love listening to her episode. If you haven't listened to it already. Also go back into the archives and grab another episode out of her if you really enjoy what she's saying and follow her, because her stories are really fun.

Brad Crowell 28:08  

Yeah, her first time on the pod was episode 53. 

Lesley Logan 28:12  

Whoa and what episode is this? 

Brad Crowell 28:15  

533 

Lesley Logan 28:16  

So she is, that's. 

Brad Crowell 28:18  

Almost 500 episodes. 

Lesley Logan 28:20  

No, that's like 53 and three. She's 50, episode 53 and then 533. There's another 50. Launa, go play the 53 at the lottery, I think. 

Brad Crowell 28:30  

Awesome. Well, thanks for joining us today. 

Lesley Logan 28:33  

I'm Lesley Logan 

Brad Crowell 28:34  

And I'm Brad Crowell. 

Lesley Logan 28:35  

Oh my goodness. I was like, okay, Brad is gonna wrap this up, but that's not how this goes. You guys know what to do. Leave us a review. Make sure you tell Launa Jae, like, what your favorite takeaways were, what maybe your favorite quip is, and share this with a friend who needs to hear it like, who needs a pep talk, who needs to slow down and like, take in how they're doing things and be more present with themselves. That's how this podcast grows and until next time, Be It Till You See It.

Brad Crowell 28:57  

Bye for now. 

Lesley Logan 28:59  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.

Brad Crowell 29:41  

It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 29:46  

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Brad Crowell 29:50  

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Lesley Logan 29:58  

Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.

Brad Crowell 30:01  

Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.

Lesley Logan 30:15  

Okay, guys, time to talk about shit and rainbows with Launa Jae.