That Was Us

Becoming Toby | "Toby" (305) with special guest Director Chris Koch


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On today’s episode of That Was Us, we have special guest, Director Chris Koch, breaking down Season 3, Episode 5: “Toby.” In this episode, the hosts talk about Toby’s mental health issues and how that affects his relationship with Kate. They also cover what it was like for Sterling as his character took on a big arc in the show, campaigning for City Councilman. Plus, Chris Koch talks about directing this episode and what he remembers working with the cast, his involvement in shaping each episode, how his directing style differs from others, and how his personal background helped inform his approach to the show.


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