Behind The Billboard

Behind The Billboard

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  • Episode 59 - Lee Bofkin

    Visuals: https://getbehindthebillboard.com/episode-59-lee-bofkin/

    Murals special with Lee Bofkin

    If you’ve seen an amazing mural lately, there’s a pretty good chance Lee Bofkin was involved. Lee is Co Founder and CEO at Global Street Art who are the go-to agency for creating big messages on big walls.

    Peaky Blinders, Valentino, Oatly,
    Invesco, Beats, FIFA, VW, Baileys, Glenfiddich and many others have had their moment on bricks and mortar thanks to Lee and his crew at GSA.

    We spoke with Lee about murals. Their history. Their resurgence. The way they’re now interacting with the digital landscape. Why they’re different from any other piece of OOH. And much more, including a fascinating chat about ‘pouncing’, a technique used by Michelangelo to paint the Sistine Chapel and still in use today. We enjoyed Lee’s infectious energy and incredible knowledge of the Street Art scene. And also his wonderful orange glasses. Thanks so much for coming on Lee. It was an education and a pleasure.

    1 hr 24 min
  • Episode 58 - Nils Leonard

    Visuals: https://getbehindthebillboard.com/episode-58-nils-leonard

    AI / Elderflower cordial  / B&Q / Inflatable cushions / Cannes / Air conditioning / Awards

    It went pretty much in that order on a warm day earlier this week, where the air con and Hugh’s home brew kept us cool.

    Episode #58 features a fascinating chat with Nils Leonard, co-founder of Uncommon, who became our first ever returning guest.

    We first spoke to Nils back in Feb 2021 when we were remote, stuck in various houses and offices trying to have spontaneous conversations on Zoom. So it was wonderful to meet irl and we can report Nils is even better in the flesh 😘

    The focus was mostly on B&Q, which is now into its fourth year and remains wonderfully fresh. We talked about it’s inception, how the strategy had surprisingly never been done before, sheds, masturbation, teenagers, a favourite billboard site in Glasgow, Covid, flowers, James Day, floating hammers and more.

    We also got into an interesting chat on AI, which seems to be on everyone’s list at the moment.

    And with Cannes next week, we discussed Lions and awards. And asked the key question, does a Pencil beat a Lion? Tune in and find out!

    Nils thanks again. Not just for this chat but this wonderful mantra:

    “Print the posters you wish you could steal”

    Let’s do it again at Christmas and have some of Dan’s mulled wine 🤓

    1 hr
  • Episode 57 - Alex Abrantes

    Visuals: https://getbehindthebillboard.com/episode-57-alex-abrantes/

    Ever seen a billboard used as a music stage? Or a vodka ad invade a beer ad? Or John McEnroe of today play John McEnroe of 1979?

    Podcast #57 features Alex Abrantes, who epitomises the belief that if you can think it, you can do it. And if you surround yourself with the right people even the most audacious ideas are possible.

    We could have dedicated the entire show to the McEnroe vs McEnroe campaign alone:

    • The first ever Real vs Virtual Tennis Match.
    • 6 pieces of tech combined for the first time:
    • Motion capture, A.I. Learning, UNREAL ENGINE, a High-Resolution Mist + Industrial Robots…all on a custom-built Tennis Court.
    • 52 countries
    • $20m earned media
    • 3bn impressions.

    Alex seems to revel in ‘never seen before moments’ which we previously talked about with Graham Fink on episodes #39 and #40.  Seemingly impossible stunts or uses of the outdoor never attempted before. And yet when it’s done - the latest for Budweiser using a billboard as a music stage for female artists snubbed by the Brits - it seems completely effortless, as if it was always going to happen.

    We spent just over an hour hearing how he and his amazing team - including writer Chloe Bayhack - bring these ideas to life.

    Thanks again Alex for your time and work. It was a pleasure having you on the show. 

    1 hr 27 min
  • Episode 56 - James Day

    Visuals: https://getbehindthebillboard.com/episode-56-james-day/

    Podcast episode #56 features one of the sharpest snappers in the business. And one of the nicest and most charming guests we’ve had on the show.

    It’s James Day on Good Friday folks. Settle down with a cuppa and a hot cross bun. This is a belter.

    James has had his name attached to some of the most iconic billboards of the past 30 years.

    He’s come a long way since picking up his first camera, which was a foggy affair:

    “I spent quite a lot of time in the photography room at school. Well I say photography room, it was more like a smoking room. Everyone used taking photos as an excuse to smoke a sneaky cigarette.”

    Thank God for those sneaky fags and that dark room, because amongst all the smoke and teenage angst, a light was switched on in James mind and made him the brilliant photographer he is today.

    Most recent and most brilliant work has been for Uncommon for B&Q. Clean, sharp, beautifully crafted images, they’ve won plaudits and awards across the board and rightly so. The image of the mobile phone is sensational - worthy of an album cover.

    We discussed the formative years when James worked with JustinTindall & AdamTucker on numerous projects, including the Harvey Nichols calendar campaign which features the stuffed cat and the 31 plates of baked beans stories. But the absolute winner was behind he Guardian and how they achieved the imprint of the rattan furniture on the model’s bottom. This is honestly one of the funniest stories we’ve ever heard on the pod.

    We finished with XXXX Extra Cold posters and heard how the legendary Mark Reddy, Head of Art at BBH at the time, sprinkled gold dust on the idea, involving spiders and gloves and hair, taking the craft of the work to another level (we’re hoping to have Mark on the show at some point soon).

    Thanks again James for being so generous with your time and the stories behind the work. It was a real pleasure. 

    1 hr 33 min
  • Episode 55 - Jo Moore

    Visuals: https://getbehindthebillboard.com/episode-55-jo-moore

    Episode #55 has a bit of everything.

    Mostly it has the charming, humble and uber talented Jo Moore, ECD at House 337, discussing her OOH work.

    In particular we chatted about the domestic violence campaign for Women’s Aid that ran during last year’s World Cup.

    “He’s coming home” was a chilling reminder of the domestic abuse suffered by women during major tournaments. The poster (and film which is equally brilliant) gained huge publicity and awareness on virtually no budget.

    It led us to a wider debate on how small but important clients like Women’s Aid can get their message across with great creative work.

    This in turn led us to discuss the spoof fashion campaign ‘Not model’s own’ for the same client, highlighting the issue of Coercive Control, executed with tact and skill - gaining column inches galore and huge awareness.

    Next was something completely different: Ant & Dec. And Kraftwerk.

    Surreal, hilarious, with a lot of red.

    And then we heard how Jo met Anthony Burrell and got him designing the wonderfully graphic campaign for The Corinthia Hotel.

    Amidst all this, after about 10 minutes, Dan had to leave the room for a phone call. Jo and Hugh carried on chatting…and chatting…and chatting…Dan never returned until the final credits.

    We thought he was on an important business call, but it was more important than that - it was a family emergency, which thankfully was resolved.

    Quite a morning. Quite the episode!

    Thank you Jo for coming in and taking us behind your billboards. As well as inside your VW van and outdoor swimming. A woman of many parts who barely batted an eyelid as half the Behind the Billboard team left the building ;-)

    And well done Dan for keeping a cool head in a difficult moment. All in a day’s work for my mate Dan. 

    1 hr 23 min
  • Episode 54 - Emma Brooke

    Visuals: https://getbehindthebillboard.com/episode-54-emma-brooke

    For episode #54 we spoke to Emma Brooke, Writer and Creative Director at Leo Burnett and originator of some of the very best OOH work in recent years for the BBC.

    We started with her campaign for Peaky Blinders which featured fan art from devotees of the show. This big bucket of UGC resulted in over a dozen brilliant pieces of outdoor that stood out from your everyday air brushed advertising image thanks to their gritty hand crafted style. Whether it was Tommy, Polly or Arthur - the image always appeared fresh and unique.

    The final selects ran on poster sites local to where the artist lived. So not only did they have their moment of fame, but they could go down - with their Mum if need be - and see their art writ large in the great outdoors. What’s more all the work was then exhibited in an online fan art gallery.

    This was followed by a brilliant set of billboards for Killing Eve, which didn’t mention the show, or the BBC or any details other than a series of personal messages and a hashtag #CRAZY4EVE

    Super brave work that caught the tone of the show exactly right. A private squabble played out across the most public platform.

    We also discussed Emma’s life before BBC, her other agencies, life in NYC and most fascinating of all, how she met the love of her life on a plane.

    Thanks Emma for coming on and being so open and charming with your stories. Esp that grinding billboard ;-)

    1 hr 24 min
  • Episode 53 - David Masterman

    Visuals: https://getbehindthebillboard.com/episode-53-david-masterman/

    Episode #53 of the podcast features the super talented ever ebullient Dave Masterman.  

    It was a great session that encompassed Dave’s incredible collection of OOH work both as creative and CD.

    Many highlights: VW, Marmite, Kit Kat, Mr Kipling and esp Ben & Jerry’s - the homemade look ‘n feel still fresh today.

    More up to date work included the audio mnemonic led Domin-oh-hoo-hoo campaign which works surprisingly well on murals and special builds.

    We finished on ‘I Spy Maynard’s’ (Wine Gums) which is possibly the ultimate in outdoor campaigns and why we do the podcast. So good hearing the story behind this campaign that ended up subverting the Euros and Number 10 Downing Street among other events of last year.

    Thanks Dave for not only being a fun and charming guest, but for your incredibly thorough preparation for this episode. We have never had a more organised session!

    See you (and James McAvoy) in Waitrose in December 🤓

    1 hr 19 min
  • Episode 52 - Mark Tutssel [Part 2]

    Visuals: https://getbehindthebillboard.com/episode-52-mark-tutssel-part-2/

    Part 2 of our conversation with Tuts took us to the very heart the world’s most famous fast food brand. We spoke at length about McDonald’s and Tuts incredible time at the helm of the account, first in London, then Chicago, then around the world.

    There was so much work it would’ve been impossible to cover it all. But we’re pretty sure we got the best bits:

    Golf, Mouse-holes, Hot dog, 20p, Fresh Salads, Milkshake and our absolute favourite, Sundial (featured on Episode 5 with creative team Vince Cook & Gary Fox-Robinson).

    And as if that wasn’t enough, we squeezed in the audacious Allstate Insurance stunt that featured a car dangling off the 17th floor of the landmark Marina Towers apartment building in Chicago, seemingly about to plummet to the ground below, accompanied by the tagline ‘Are you in good hands?’

    This was followed by Samsung Safety Truck, Coke’s Small World Machines that epitomised Tuts ‘creativity without borders’ ethos before finishing on two monster award winning campaigns - ‘My blood is red and black’ and Airbnb Van Gough ‘The Bedroom’.

    Thanks again Mark for giving your time and stories - judging by the response we’ve had for part 1, you have once again smashed it.

    Shoutout again to Soho Radio, our new home for the podcast and to our brilliant sponsors Talon

    1 hr 5 min
  • Episode 51 - Mark Tutssel [Part 1]

    Visuals: https://getbehindthebillboard.com/episode-51-mark-tutssel-part-1/

    Mark Tutssel aka ’Tuts’

    Part 1

    To say we’re excited about our latest guest on the podcast is somewhat of an understatement.

    Mark Tutssel aka ’Tuts’, is one of the biggest names in the business.

    And when it comes to billboards and OOH, he has few rivals.

    His overall award record is staggering - 600 Cannes Lions, inc 10 Grand Prix, two D&AD Black Pencils, the first ever White Pencil, 25 D&AD Yellow Pencils, Grand Clios and many more - you name, he’s won it.

    And he’s won just about all these gongs at one agency, Leo Burnett. So in a way these two episodes (so much to cover we decided to make it a 2 parter) are as much about Leo Burnett as they are Mark Tutssel.

    In part one, Mark talks about his time in London, an incredible tenure alongside partner Nick Bell, creating iconic billboards for Mercedes-Benz, United Airlines, John West, Heinz and more. This body of work alone would be enough to fill several careers, but not for Tutssel.

    This is just part one of an amazing career spanning nearly 4 decades across all 4 corners of the globe, rewarded during many successful summers in the South of a France with all those Lions 🦁

    Part two features the amazing portfolio of McDonald’s work, both here in London, Chicago and around the globe and more iconic work for Samsung and Coke that epitomised ‘creativity without borders’.

    We discussed the internal awards system Tuts instigated to locate and support the great work within the LB network. And most inspiring of all,we talked about his ‘theatre of the streets’ ethos.

    “Think of the streets as your stage and your goal is to earn a standing ovation.” 

    Amen to that.

    Thanks Tuts for your time, your stories and your work.

    1 hr 16 min
  • Episode 50 - David Kolbusz

    Visuals: https://getbehindthebillboard.com/episode-50-david-kolbusz/

    BtB in 2023.

    And who better to kick off the year and podcast #50 than David Kolbusz, CCO of Orchard New York. A man of many talents and looks. And a blast of fresh air to blow away the January blues.

    We actually spoke before Christmas on a crisp winters day in New York. In fact it was Thanksgiving as we recall, so we’re hugely appreciative of DK’s time on such a big day Stateside.

    The sun was out and through his bedroom window we could hear birdsong from Central Park and sirens from downtown Manhattan (it’s a very big window).

    And most importantly of all, we heard the dulcet tones of DK talking us through his billboards and OOH work from both sides of The Pond.

    Axe, The Guardian, Equinox Gyms, Coal Drops Yard. Every one of them iconic pieces of work with fantastic stories. Including a bit of background Wiggle Jiggle from the brilliant Ocean Spray campaign.

    DK thanks so much. It was a total pleasure.

    Thanks for waking up with us and talking billboards in your pyjamas.

    A first for the show 🤣

    1 hr 13 min

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