In this heartfelt and illuminating episode of What’s the Rusch, Rebeccas has the JOY of talking with her friend, Mirna Valerio—known to many as The Mirnavator. Mirna is an ultra-runner, writer, skier, poet, educator, and unapologetic force of joy. Together, they trace Mirna’s journey from a Brooklyn childhood to discovering mountains and ultimately reshaping what outdoor adventure looks and feels like.

Through stories of summer camp, teaching, motherhood, poetry, and being a plus-size Black woman in spaces not designed for her, Mirna reveals the power of choosing yourself, again and again. This is a conversation about joy as resistance, belonging as birthright, and the ripple effect of being exactly who you are. It’s about introducing yourself with your values, not just your profession—and letting adventure be a lifelong thread in your story.

In this episode, Rebecca and Mirna explore:

1. Finding her voice in both poetry and the outdoors
2. The poem Trophic Cascade and how it mirrors life transformation
3. Nature as the ultimate teacher and refuge—“Nature is always the answer”
4. Core values as non-negotiables, and how to lead with them
5. What it means to take up space—on trails, in life, and in leadership
6. The strongest people often don’t get the support they need—and how to change that
7. Supporting your people in non-threatening, nourishing ways
8. How writing, community, and curiosity became Mirna’s healing practices

Transformative Insights:

1. Nature doesn’t just welcome us—it changes us
2. Your presence can shift a space, even if you weren’t invited in
3. Belonging starts with deciding you’re allowed to belong
4. Cultivating joy is a radical act of self-preservation and leadership
5. Introduce yourself by your values, not just your job title
6. You don’t need to reach the summit to feel the transformation

Vulnerable Moments:

1. Mirna shares what it felt like to not be seen in outdoor spaces—and how she kept showing up anyway
2. She talks about grief, burnout, and the internal tug-of-war of performing vs. simply being
3. Rebecca opens up about her own depression and loss of purpose during recovery from a head injury
4. The two reflect on how writing became a lifeline in the dark
5. Mirna speaks to the exhaustion of being “the strong one”—and how she’s learning to ask for help

Practical Wisdom:

1. How to identify your core values—and use them as navigational handrails
2. The importance of creating judgment-free space for processing, growth, and rest
3. Why vulnerability is a strength, not a weakness
4. Ways to build community through action, not just intention
5. How to hold space for both leadership and learning

Personal Growth:

1. Mirna’s evolution from educator to outdoor leader to published author and DEI advocate
2. Rebecca’s journey from podiums to poetry
3. The ways both women are reclaiming what it means to “perform” and to “belong”
4. Reframing the pursuit of adventure as something that starts with joy—not outcomes
5. Embracing a new season of life where permission comes from within
6. Adventure as a lifelong throughline—for Mirna and for Rebecca
7. Lifelong educator. Lifelong student. Lifelong adventurer.

Helpful Links:

1. Mirna Valerio’s website – The Mirnavator
2. Mirna on Instagram
3. Mirna’s book – A Beautiful Work in Progress
4. Camille T. Dungy’s poem “Trophic Cascade”
5. Mary Oliver’s poem “Wild Geese”

Lisa Congdon’s Live Your Values Deck

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