While Katie is deep in those newborn snuggles and sleepless night with Emma, Hallie’s mom, Paula (aka Cricket), fills in for a special episode of the podcast. The mother daughter duo open up about their tight knit relationship (no seriously, Hallie’s called her mom first after losing her virginity) and Cricket reveals the secret to walking the line between being your kids’ mom and their friend. 

The 74-year-old mom-of-two gets candid about her own upbringing and how her complicated relationship with her own mother helped inform how she shows up with her girls. 

And she shares the story of her nonlinear journey to motherhood and why she was adamat about being a stay at home mom. She also gives some words of encouragement to all the women raising littles, but admits it doesn’t exactly getting easier as they grow up. 

As for the key to motherhood? Cricket says it’s all about leaning on your tribe. 

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