In this episode of Between Us, Jill and Shakira dive into an unexpected conversation sparked by a shared obsession with heated rivalry. What begins with updates about sore muscles, major life changes, and an upcoming surgery quickly unfolds into a deeper exploration of intimacy, vulnerability, self-love, and what it means to be fully seen.

Together, they unpack why heated rivalry has resonated so deeply—not just as a queer love story, but as a powerful portrayal of emotional honesty, healthy masculinity, and authentic connection. Along the way, they reflect on the stories we consume, how media shapes our understanding of relationships, and the ways meaningful art can inspire personal growth, curiosity, and creativity.

This episode is a heartfelt conversation about becoming more human, embracing vulnerability, and finding the courage to connect more deeply with ourselves and others.

Thank you for spending this time Between Us.

This podcast is part of The Return, a collection of conversations, reflections, gatherings, and experiences designed to help people reclaim their authentic selves and live wildly free.

Continue the journey with The Weekly Return, join The Return Circle, or explore coaching, retreats, and soul-care practices.  You can find more at jilldahler.com

Helping people come home to themselves.

Take what resonates, leave the rest, and trust yourself.

Jill Dahler
Writer • Guide • Speaker

In this episode, we trace a funny, awkward wedding dance story into a deeper conversation about fear of being seen, judgment, and the longing for more ease, fun, and romance in life. Shakira shares a surreal five rhythms “dance church” experience that forces her to confront discomfort in a brightly lit room full of mirrors and strangers, while Jill recounts a powerful breath work session that offers emotional release and a safe space to scream, cry, and let go. Together we explore how dance, breath work, and other “spiritual toolkit” practices help us stay with discomfort, soften our egos, trust ourselves more, and move toward lives with less fear, less mundane routine, and more intention, connection, and romance.

Because who doesn't want that experience.  

Thank you for spending this time Between Us.

This podcast is part of The Return, a collection of conversations, reflections, gatherings, and experiences designed to help people reclaim their authentic selves and live wildly free.

Continue the journey with The Weekly Return, join The Return Circle, or explore coaching, retreats, and soul-care practices.  You can find more at jilldahler.com

Helping people come home to themselves.

Take what resonates, leave the rest, and trust yourself.

Jill Dahler
Writer • Guide • Speaker

What if indulging in your guilty pleasures could lead to a life-changing journey of self-awareness and creativity? On this episode of the Listener Don't Podcast, we embark on a lively exploration of fashion, inspiration, and personal balance. Our conversation kicks off with a playful exchange about the personal "drugs" that light up our days, from the allure of television marathons to the thrill of shopping. As we navigate the often uninspiring world of fast fashion, particularly on platforms like Instagram, we celebrate the liberation and creativity found in street fashion across bustling cities like New York and Chicago.

The discussion takes a reflective turn as we ponder the pressures of productivity and the guilt that accompanies downtime. We share personal anecdotes about the challenge of transitioning from 'fun employment' to a structured work routine and the societal pressures that equate self-worth with daily achievements. Through candid reflections, we champion the idea that doing nothing is not only okay but valuable, encouraging listeners to embrace moments of rest without guilt. Our experiences remind us of the importance of maintaining energy-boosting practices and finding balance in both personal and professional spheres.

In a final spirited exchange, we dive into the captivating world of TikTok trends and the musical genius of Kendrick Lamar. We discuss the intriguing "black wife effect" trend and the fascinating transformation it represents, while also appreciating iconic interracial couples like Lisa Bonet and Jason Momoa. Wrapping up with a heartfelt conversation on appreciating unique personal qualities, we highlight the beauty of kindness, humor, and generosity in our relationships. This episode is a rollercoaster of laughs, love, and self-discovery, and we hope you enjoy the ride as much as we did creating it.

Thank you for spending this time Between Us.

This podcast is part of The Return, a collection of conversations, reflections, gatherings, and experiences designed to help people reclaim their authentic selves and live wildly free.

Continue the journey with The Weekly Return, join The Return Circle, or explore coaching, retreats, and soul-care practices.  You can find more at jilldahler.com

Helping people come home to themselves.

Take what resonates, leave the rest, and trust yourself.

Jill Dahler
Writer • Guide • Speaker

In this heart-to-heart, we lay bare the threads of personal growth, the nuances of relationships and the gentle art of cultivating patience and self-compassion. Witness the beauty of metamorphosis as we explore how self-responsibility draws the map of our journey through the world's changing landscapes.

From the vibrant heartbeat of Los Angeles to the tranquility of a yoga studio sanctuary, travel with us on a voyage of spiritual and romantic discovery. A friend's poignant struggle with love and the face of death serves as a poignant reminder of how spiritual evolution can redefine our relationship goals. And as we mark milestones like Jeff's 50th birthday, we delve into how a life unaccompanied by children colors our experiences of aging and wellness. Join us for a conversation that intertwines meditation, holistic living, and the pursuit of a life in harmony with one's deepest truths—a discussion that promises not just insights but a mirror to our own lives.

Thank you for spending this time Between Us.

This podcast is part of The Return, a collection of conversations, reflections, gatherings, and experiences designed to help people reclaim their authentic selves and live wildly free.

Continue the journey with The Weekly Return, join The Return Circle, or explore coaching, retreats, and soul-care practices.  You can find more at jilldahler.com

Helping people come home to themselves.

Take what resonates, leave the rest, and trust yourself.

Jill Dahler
Writer • Guide • Speaker

Have you ever slipped into a scent that reshaped your day as effortlessly as a favorite outfit? Shakira and I invite you to a world where every splash of perfume and swipe of lipstick is an act of self-celebration and expression. Our heart-to-heart unfolds the layers of personal care rituals that embolden our spirits, from my lavish 'everything shower' complete with dry brushing and Turkish exfoliation, to JIll's knack for elevating her presence through her master class finesse. Join us as we exchange notes on the small, yet profound, personal touches that keep us feeling our most radiant selves.

Amidst the sensory symphony of self-care, we traverse the introspective tide of eclipse energy, contemplating its profound impact on personal growth and the all-too-familiar weariness it can bring. As the celestial dance prompts us to reflect on our paths, we embrace rest not as an indulgence but as a radical act of resistance—against societal pressures and our own relentless hustle. Imagine giving yourself permission to pause, to align with the universe's rhythms, and to honor rest as essential to our well-being and creativity.

Navigating the tightrope of corporate landscapes often means measuring the gap between personal values and workplace culture. With candid vulnerability, we dissect the importance of recognizing when professional demands begin to gnaw at the essence of who we are. We share stories and strategies for upholding boundaries, ensuring that in the quest for success, we do not lose the very core that defines us. Whether you're contemplating a career pivot or seeking validation for your next 'nothing' day, let this conversation be your compass, guiding you towards authenticity and tranquility in all aspects of life.

Links:
ReWilding for Women on Instagram @rewildingforwomen
Rest in Resistance Book
Turkish Mit on Amazon
Perfume by Frederic Malle

Thank you for spending this time Between Us.

This podcast is part of The Return, a collection of conversations, reflections, gatherings, and experiences designed to help people reclaim their authentic selves and live wildly free.

Continue the journey with The Weekly Return, join The Return Circle, or explore coaching, retreats, and soul-care practices.  You can find more at jilldahler.com

Helping people come home to themselves.

Take what resonates, leave the rest, and trust yourself.

Jill Dahler
Writer • Guide • Speaker

Have you ever let the ebb and flow of the ocean's tides slow the pace of your heartbeat? Our latest voyage into the heart of Hawaii has gifted us with tales of serenity, self-discovery, and the surprising joys found in a simple way of being. We unwind the threads of time spent in nature's embrace, where the power of pausing became our greatest ally. Join us as we recount the enchantment of letting go, the challenges of maintaining a connection to the world beyond the islands, and the practicalities of dreaming about a life in paradise.

The symphony of life is a delicate balance between movement and stillness, and nowhere is this more evident than in our physical pursuits. Swinging racquets and pounding pavement, we've learned lessons in humility and recalibration that only a return to the body can teach. This episode isn't just about the solo journey of a tennis enthusiast; it's an intimate look at the transformative nature of fitness, the art of listening to the wisdom of our aging bodies, and the liberation found in eschewing relentless routines for a dance with balance.

Let's not skirt around the existential; we all face moments where the path diverges, and we must choose between the comfort of old patterns and the courage of growth. Hear the heartfelt story of how a career setback became an unexpected catalyst for enlightenment, self-awareness, and embracing trust over control. Together, we celebrate the spiritual practices that ground us and the anticipation of future gatherings that fill us with joy and readiness. Raise your glass to adventures on the horizon and the beauty of a life lived from the highest self.

Thank you for spending this time Between Us.

This podcast is part of The Return, a collection of conversations, reflections, gatherings, and experiences designed to help people reclaim their authentic selves and live wildly free.

Continue the journey with The Weekly Return, join The Return Circle, or explore coaching, retreats, and soul-care practices.  You can find more at jilldahler.com

Helping people come home to themselves.

Take what resonates, leave the rest, and trust yourself.

Jill Dahler
Writer • Guide • Speaker

As we peel back the layers of life's constant flux, Shakira shares an intimate recounting of the resurgence and serenity of her time away from home, painting a picture of the paradox between comfort and the sense of being adrift. Our exchange transitions to the sun-soaked narratives from a soul-stirring San Diego sojourn, where yoga's communal breath became a poignant connector, and shared loss wove a thread of unspoken understanding with a fellow yogi. Embracing joblessness not as a setback but as a quiet reprieve, we find solace in the idea that sometimes life’s upheavals are veiled invitations to rediscover our truest self.

Navigating the professional seas can be tumultuous, as Shakira elucidates from her voyage on an all-female leadership team once poised at the helm of empowerment. Her voice carries the weight of triumphs and the echo of trials faced amidst the ever-shifting boardroom dynamics. The loss of senior female leadership to a more homogenous replacement is not just a narrative twist—it's a call to arms for the cruciality of diversity and strategic thought in the echelons of power. As Shakira bids farewell to a chapter dense with mentorship and growth, the anticipation of new beginnings where inclusive values steer the ship is a lighthouse beckoning on the horizon.

Lastly, we confront the stormy weather of toxic workplaces and the courage it takes to hoist the sails and chart a course towards self-respect. A tale of dismissal becomes a tale of empowerment, as Shakira recounts the pivotal awakening to her own worth in the face of professional adversity. This episode is a compass for anyone navigating their own career crossroads, a testament to the importance of integrity, and an anthem for aligning one's vocational journey with personal values. It's a candid reflection on heeding life’s nudges, trusting in the ebb and flow, and remaining open to the wonders that await beyond the bend.

Thank you for spending this time Between Us.

This podcast is part of The Return, a collection of conversations, reflections, gatherings, and experiences designed to help people reclaim their authentic selves and live wildly free.

Continue the journey with The Weekly Return, join The Return Circle, or explore coaching, retreats, and soul-care practices.  You can find more at jilldahler.com

Helping people come home to themselves.

Take what resonates, leave the rest, and trust yourself.

Jill Dahler
Writer • Guide • Speaker

Ever forked out top dollar for a service that left you both lighter in the wallet and heavy with disappointment? We wade through the murky waters of household cleanliness and the daunting quest for a spotless abode. It's a candid look at the high stakes of dust bunnies and streak-free stainless steel — a tale that might just mirror your own.

But it's not all about the dust; we scrub deeper into the world of personal hygiene rituals. Have you ever wondered if there's more to life than a quick shower lather? Prepare to be transported to the steamy rooms of the Turkish Hamam, where exfoliation is an art form and 'noodles' of dead skin are a badge of honor. We debate the merits of a good scrub and the transformative magic of a humble washcloth. It's an eye-opening session guaranteed to make you see your bathroom routine in a whole new light.

Lastly, we take a detour through the glitz and glam of Hollywood. From the iconic scent of patchouli to the dramatic physical metamorphoses for the silver screen, we dissect the pressures of maintaining an ageless appearance amidst a culture that idolizes youth. Our conversation veers from nostalgia for the '90s distinctiveness to today's uniform beauty templates, all while celebrating the charm of natural aging.

Thank you for spending this time Between Us.

This podcast is part of The Return, a collection of conversations, reflections, gatherings, and experiences designed to help people reclaim their authentic selves and live wildly free.

Continue the journey with The Weekly Return, join The Return Circle, or explore coaching, retreats, and soul-care practices.  You can find more at jilldahler.com

Helping people come home to themselves.

Take what resonates, leave the rest, and trust yourself.

Jill Dahler
Writer • Guide • Speaker

Discover the intricate dance of a relationship that has weathered the test of time, as my husband Jeff joins me at the microphone to weave a tapestry of stories spanning three decades. Our conversation ventures beyond the surface, revealing how the art of communication has both challenged and enriched the bond we share. We take you on a journey from the giddiness of our dating days to the solid foundation we've built in our marriage, passing through the milestones and miscues that have taught us to move in lockstep with one another.

As Jeff and I reminisce about our life's narrative, the deliberate choices that have kept our partnership strong and central emerge as the beating heart of our story. From choosing to remain childfree to our bold moves across cities, each step has been a testament to our commitment to one another. Listen as we unfold the layers of leaving behind corporate life for a pursuit of personal fulfillment through life coaching, yoga, and entrepreneurship; a testament to the belief that happiness isn't found in a paycheck, but in living authentically. Join us for this intimate exploration into the enduring love and growth that defines our union.

Thank you for spending this time Between Us.

This podcast is part of The Return, a collection of conversations, reflections, gatherings, and experiences designed to help people reclaim their authentic selves and live wildly free.

Continue the journey with The Weekly Return, join The Return Circle, or explore coaching, retreats, and soul-care practices.  You can find more at jilldahler.com

Helping people come home to themselves.

Take what resonates, leave the rest, and trust yourself.

Jill Dahler
Writer • Guide • Speaker

Ever had one of those days where you just can't seem to muster the energy to tackle your day? We've all been there, and in this laugh-packed episode, we share our own hilarious low-energy tales, including a surprising mood lift from a celebrity video! But we're not just about the giggles; we also get real about the intimate connection between our physical fitness and emotional health. Join us as we recount tales from the gym, discover the peace found within the walls of a yoga studio, and celebrate the communities that help us thrive in our wellness journeys.

Sometimes, it's the people we meet along the way that make all the difference. We're peeling back the layers of phrases like "holding space" to uncover the raw authenticity and self-compassion they can foster. It's a heartfelt exploration of finding one's tribe and the power of genuine connections, where laughter and learning go hand in hand.

Lastly, we tip our hats to the spontaneous beats of life that often bring us the most joy. We share stories that highlight the beauty of unscripted moments and the strength found in opening up about our challenges. It's an ode to the people who've held us up when we were too weary to stand, and a high-five to the magical, unplanned adventures that enrich our lives. Wrap yourself in a big virtual hug and tune in to an episode that's all about embracing the unpredictable, nurturing love, and finding the courage to step outside the comfort zone.

Thank you for spending this time Between Us.

This podcast is part of The Return, a collection of conversations, reflections, gatherings, and experiences designed to help people reclaim their authentic selves and live wildly free.

Continue the journey with The Weekly Return, join The Return Circle, or explore coaching, retreats, and soul-care practices.  You can find more at jilldahler.com

Helping people come home to themselves.

Take what resonates, leave the rest, and trust yourself.

Jill Dahler
Writer • Guide • Speaker