Jes was a close friend of Melani Pawlowski - Lori Vallow's niece - and is a close friend of Brandon Boudreaux. Jes shares her harrowing experience trying to help her friends, and the fear she experienced for months while people around her kept dying.

This interview with Jes took place June 30th, 2021 the day after Lori Vallow was charged in Arizona for conspiring in the murder of her then-husband Charles Vallow. Charles was shot to death on July 11, 2019 by his brother-in-law Alex cox.

Four years after Charles Vallow was shot and killed, Lori Vallow Daybell will face charges of first degree murder.

We livestreamed Thursday's news conference with the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office on our YouTube Channel, and Lauren reads the charging documents and evidence Arizona has against Lori Vallow in our last episode.

Our original Beyond the Veil season continues as a forensic psychologist and journalist (who are husband and wife) explore the inner workings of Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow Daybell's minds, as well as the hidden motivations driving a series of inexplicable murders in 2019.

LAUREN MATTHIAS worked as an anchor and reporter for ABC, NBC, and FOX News in Boise, Idaho Salt Lake City, Utah. She spent a decade reporting on a diverse range of topics from high profile crimes and criminals to Presidential visits. Most recently, she reported for Salt Lake City’s ABC affiliate News4Utah and in 2015 she received the Idaho State Broadcaster’s Association Best Reporter award and reported with News Nation throughout the trial. She is the producer and editor of the Hidden True Crime Podcast along with her husband Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist.

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