In a first of its kind interview, we talk to a wife and husband who say they were groomed by Julie Rowe. Lauren Matthias interviews "Girl on Fire" who takes us deep into the belief system followed by Julie Rowe & Chad Daybell. 

We end the episode with statements from both Eric Smith and Joel Gurvine.

In a first of its kind interview, we talk to a wife and husband who say they were groomed by Julie Rowe. Lauren Matthias interviews "Girl on Fire" who takes us deep into the belief system followed by Julie Rowe & Chad Daybell. We end the episode with statements from both Eric Smith and Joel Gurvine.

In a first of its kind interview, we talk to a wife and husband who say they were groomed by Julie Rowe. Lauren Matthias interviews "Girl on Fire" who takes us deep into the belief system followed by Julie Rowe &amp; Chad Daybell.&nbsp;

We end the episode with statements from both Eric Smith and Joel Gurvine.&nbsp;

Beyond The Veil: Is Julie Rowe a Cult Leader or a Spiritual Healer?

Hidden True Crime, explores the hidden motives behind unimaginable crimes, while examining our deepest fears along the way. Join us on a journey into the darkest recesses of the human mind and the unconscious motivations that drive human behaviors, both good and bad, in order to understand the world and ourselves. Pull up a chair at our dinner table as the dynamic husband and wife duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes. What are they hiding? What are they hiding from? What remains hidden?

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