Episode 76 (2025-11-12)The Least Political Politician I’ve Ever Met(with Dr. Jermaine Johnson)

Bill and Jumelle are honored to score the FIRST podcast interview with Dr. Jermaine Johnson since he launched his candidacy to be governor of South Carolina two weeks ago. We explored a side of this dynamic leader that you simply won’t see or hear anywhere else!

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Pre-show banter (0:00:00)Introduction (00:01:13)

• Democrats win across the spectrum as voters reject Trump [CNN]
• Speaker Johnson Holds News Conference on Day 36 of Government Shutdown [C-Span]
• Trump blames shutdown for Republicans' election losses to Democrats [Axios]
• Fox News Host Drops Stunning Take on Election Bloodbath: ‘By Winning Democrats Are Actually Losing’ [Mediaite]

Dr. Jermaine Johnson (00:06:02) 

• Dr. Jermaine Johnson campaign launch video [YouTube]
• Jermaine Johnson (politician) [Wikipedia]
• SC House representative releases documentary on his life as a homeless teen [ABC 4 News]
• I Got Myself a Yard - Theatrical Trailer [Vimeo]
• Prepping for Preparation: Based on NEB's "Program Preparation" [Amazon]
• Dr. J and Larry Bird Go One on One (Basketball) Commodore 64 C64 Longplay [YouTube]
• Alumnus is a Game Changer [The College Today - College of Charleston]
• From homeless youth and turbulent CofC career, Jermaine Johnson is Andrew Yang's guy in SC [Post and Courier]
• Democrat Jermaine Johnson to challenge for state House seat currently held by Jimmy Bales [The Post and Courier Free Time, 2020]
• Agreeing to Disagree and the Theater of Elected Office - With Representative Jermaine Johnson [Bourbon in the Back Room]
• Exclusive One-on-one with Democratic State Rep. Jermaine Johnson and Republican State Senator Matt Leber [The Arena SC] (Nov 2024)
• SC down a second ‘sister senator’ as Sandy Senn concedes in GOP primary [South Carolina Daily Gazette]
• Matt Leber’s Mistress-gate: Domestic Violence Charge Filed [FITSNews]
• Rep. Jermaine Johnson announces bid for governor [WACH FOX]
• Jets Insider Confirms Jermaine Johnson is NOT Getting Traded [New York Jets News]
• Visit https://johnsonforsc.com/

Closing (00:48:55) 

• Dr. Jermaine Johnson speech on State House steps, Oct 1, 2025. [Instagram]

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Bill and Jumelle are thrilled to speak with US Senate Candidate Dr. Annie Andrews, a dynamic fighter for the children and ALL residents of South Carolina! 

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Pre-show banter (0:00:00)Introduction (00:01:34)

• JoyAndProgress [TikTok] 
• David Pakman Show [TikTok] 
• JiggsTheStoryTeller as a Proud Black Conservative [TikTok]
• The Know It All Podcast [YouTube]
• White House announces Smithsonian review amid Trump’s cultural reckoning [Politico]

No Kings in Greenwood (00:10:07) 

• Millions across all 50 US states march in No Kings protests against Trump [The Guardian]
• Remembering Hands Across America [history.com]
• 1986 - Hands Across America - Music Video [YouTube]
• No Kings rally reaches Greenwood after nationwide protests [Index Journal]

Interview with Dr. Annie Andrews (00:18:46) 

• Dr. Annie Andrews for US Senate [web site, Facebook, Instagram, X, Threads, Bluesky, TikTok, YouTube]
• Katie Couric: Meet the Woman Running to Unseat Lindsey Graham [YouTube]
• Annie’s episode of At Our Table with Jaime Harrison
• Annie Andrews takes leave from MUSC amid political attacks [Count On News 2]
• Nancy Mace falsely accused this doctor of child abuse & she lost her job. She’s running for Senate. [LGBTQNation]
• The Congressional campaign aftermath, in Annie’s own words. [Their Future. Our Pod.]
• Pediatrician launches new PAC focused on children [Roll Call]
• My Friend the U.S. Senate Candidate [Dr. Michael O’Brien on substack]

Hate Crimes Ordinance Round 3 (00:52:31)

• City of Greenwood Council Meeting Minutes, July 21
• City of Greenwood Council Meeting video [Facebook]
• AG opinion: Local hate crime ordinances likely unconstitutional under South Carolina law [Index Journal]

Closing (01:03:42)

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Bill and Jumelle welcome Jonah Cooley, Chair of the newly formed College Democrats of Lander University. We gain the perspective of a young activist and dive in deep on the views of the upcoming generation.

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Pre-show banter (0:00:00)Introduction (00:01:06)

• Ted Cruz: Stop attacking pedophiles [YouTube]
• Come From Away the musical
• Centre Stage Theater in Greenville, SC

The “Woke Words Game” (00:09:31) 

• The ‘woke’ words Democrats should cut from their vocabulary [Politico]
• Was It Something I Said? [Third Way]

Interview with Jonah Cooley (00:19:30) 

• GWCDP Bkfst 2024-07 Jonah Cooley - Can't look to past [Full speech]
• Crowd boos mention of Netanyahu during Witkoff’s speech in Tel Aviv [Al Jezeera]
• Police: 2 people shot in Greenwood near Lander University [Fox Carolina]
• Lander Dems [Instagram, Lander page]

Testimonies at Abortion Ban Hearing (00:47:57)

• South Carolina Senate Bill S.323, Unborn Child Protection Act [scstatehouse.gov]
• Total Abortion Ban (S. 323) [ ACLU South Carolina]
• SC senators hear testimony on one of America’s most restrictive abortion bills [Carolina Reporter]
• Fact-Checking the Baby Olivia Video [Planned Parenthood]

Closing (01:13:42)

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Bill and Jumelle welcome Teresa Goodman, Executive Director of Community Initiatives, Inc., where we learned what it’s like to run multiple nonprofits in this political climate.

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Pre-show banter (0:00:00)Introduction (00:01:00)

Bill's Trip to Arkansas (00:02:11) 

• Jerry Mazzanti obituary
• Valentine “John” Mazzanti obituary
• Italians of Sunnyside
• Lake Village, Arkansas [Encyclopedia of Arkansas]

Greenwood's Plan B Christmas Parade (00:15:13) 

• Original Greenwood Christmas theme announced on Aug 7 [Facebook] 
• New theme announced on Sep 25 [Facebook]

SC Lawmakers at Work (00:26:06)

• Stopping a Dangerous Article V Convention [Common Cause]
• H. 3558 Commissioners to Article V Convention Rep. Taylor
• SC’s Cass Elias McCarter Guardian ad Litem Program

Medicaid and Medicare Cuts (00:38:15)

• The Truth About the One Big Beautiful Bill Act’s Cuts to Medicaid and Medicare [Center for American Progress]
• Best explainer about Medicaid cuts [@lthlnkso on TikTok]
• A Closer Look at the Work Requirement Provisions in the 2025 Federal Budget Reconciliation Law [Kaiser Family Foundation]
• Trump bill's health effects won't be felt until after midterms [Axios]
• New Medicaid work requirements explained [@seizethemeansshirts Instagram]

Closing (00:56:16)

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Bill and Jumelle welcome Teresa Goodman, Executive Director of Community Initiatives, Inc., where we learned what it’s like to run multiple nonprofits in this political climate.

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Pre-show banter (0:00:00)Introduction (00:01:09)

• Christina Lorey - Facebook Reel
• Harris interrupted by pro-Palestinian protesters on first night of book tour [PBS News]
• Five things we learned from 107 Days, Kamala Harris’s campaign trail memoir [The Guardian]
• Yemisi Egbewole about the Harris protests [Instagram]

Interview with Teresa Goodman (00:10:55) 

• Community Initiatives, Inc.
• La Clinica Gratis
• Safe Haven
• Toddler Learning Center
• Donate to Community Initiatives.
• Trump’s War on non-profits [Politico]

Campaign Corner (00:39:36)

• Tina Belge is running for Greenville City Council
• Heather Bauer is running for reelection in House District 75
• Revisit our interview with Heather back in Episode 58
• Dying to Be Men: American Masculinity as Death Cult [Ms. Magazine]

Closing (00:54:42)

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Bill and Jumelle speak with Vicki Ringer, Director of Public Affairs for Planned Parenthood Votes South Atlantic, about the pending legislation in South Carolina that removes all abortion exceptions for rape and incest as well as making many contraceptives illegal.

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Pre-show banter (0:00:00)Introduction (00:00:35)

• Travis & Jonathan [YouTube] 
• Tennessee natives mix politics, podcasting [The Tennessean]
• Donate to AJ Davis’s GoFundMe
• Listen to Episode 53 - Weaponized Ignorance (with Anjene “AJ” Davis)

South Carolina Lawmakers at Work (00:10:20)

• Rock Hill teen charged with DUI after truck crash with lawnmower leaves 2 people dead [The Herald]
• Senators push debate on strengthening SC’s DUI laws to 2026 [South Carolina Daily Gazette]

 Campaign Corner (00:17:42)

• Two longtime educators launch Democratic primary bids for state superintendent [Count On News 2]
• Episode 60: I Have Uranium Already (with Kyle Freeman and Sylvia Wright)
• Sylvia Wright 2026
• Sylvia Wright speaks at Greenwood Dem Breakfast Meeting [YouTube]
• SC for Ed
• Talarico launches Senate campaign in Texas [The Hill]
• White House to host UFC cage match on the South Lawn [Axios ]

Interview with Vicki Ringer (00:31:02) 

• Planned Parenthood South Atlantic
• Planned Parenthood Votes South Atlantic
• Episode 21: The Assault on Transgender Youth (Pt 2)
• Tim Scott thinks mothers are pregnant for 52 weeks [TikTok]
• First Hormone-Free Male Birth Control Pill Shown Safe in Early Human Trial [Scientific American]
• SC Senate Bill 323 - Unborn Child Protection Act
• Adrienne Lett on Instagram
• Extreme abortion ban hearing scheduled for Oct. 1 in South Carolina [ACLU]

Thoughts on the Charlie Kirk assassination (01:07:21)

• The Social Dilemma
• ParkerGetAJob Video 1 [TikTok]
• ParkerGetAJob Video 2 [TikTok]
• SC House Representative Justin Bamberg that he posted on Facebook

Closing (01:30:49)

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Bill and Jumelle deliver the second half of our episode from last week, this time focusing on Sen Wes Climer and Artificial Intelligence!

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Introduction (00:00:00) Big Media LLC (00:01:44)

• Barrett Gruber
• Big Media LLC

South Carolina Lawmakers at Work (00:04:20)

• Rock Hill state senator launches bid for SC’s 5th Congressional District [South Carolina Daily Gazette]
• US Rep. Ralph Norman endorses SC state Sen. Wes Climer to succeed him in Congress [WIS 10]
• Providence Classical School in Rock Hill
• How Louisville's Highlands Latin School became a classical Christian education empire [Courier Journal]

AI in Action (00:16:49)

• NotebookLM Stands Alone in a Sea of AI Tools: Here's Why I Love It [CNet]
• Parents of teenager who took his own life sue OpenAI [BBC]

Closing (00:34:46)

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Bill and Jumelle welcome Jessica Bright, a woman whose political activism in South Carolina impacted numerous people in our state and beyond.

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Opening Banter (0:00:00)Introduction (00:00:48) 

• Cracker Barrel’s New Logo [Brent Terhune on Facebook]
• Podcast: Politics of Being Black in America

Campaign Corner (00:06:39)

• Thumb Down, McCain Votes No On 'Skinny Repeal' [AP on YouTube]
• McCain Votes No, Dealing Potential Death Blow To Republican Health Care Efforts [NPR]
• US Senate Candidate forum in Greenwood [videos available on GWCDP Website]
• Democrats flip Iowa state Senate seat, breaking GOP supermajority [The Hill]

Interview with Jessica Bright (00:19:58)

• Jessica Bright is a realtor with Carolina One Real Estate.
• Jessica Bright, 30, of Walterboro, S.C. is a Clinton delegate [greenvilleonline.com]
• Bernie Sanders moves to nominate Hilary Clinton at the 2016 Democratic National Convention [PBS on YouTube
• Michael Moore’s Fahrenheit 11/9 [Wikipedia]
• Green For All
• Progressive Turnout Project
• Emerge South Carolina

Three News Items (00:53:34)

• 'Don't Just Say This Is About Thoughts & Prayers': Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey Reacts To Shooting [Forbes YouTube]
• Fox News: “It’s always a young white male. Almost always.” [Veronica De La Cruz on Instagram]
• Newsom doesn't think Trump 'wants another election' [Politico YouTube]
• Boston Mayor Wu Responds To AG Pam Bondi's 'Sanctuary City' Warning [Forbes on YouTube]

Closing (01:05:34)

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Bill and Jumelle were GUESTS on a recent episode of “Politics of Being Black in America” with Lamont Tyson! Here is the full show which was broadcast live last week.

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Opening Banter (0:00:00)

• Lamont Tyson’s YouTube channel
• Podcast: Politics of Being Black in America
• Full video of our episode (YouTube)

Introduction (00:02:50) I’ve Had It with Living Under MAGA! (00:05:26)

• “I’ve Had It!” podcast
• Video of Kash Patel looking scared (with Gangsta’s Paradise in the background)
• Kash Patel’s children’s books (Amazon)

Greenwood Christmas Parade (00:12:09)

• Dr. Brooks can also talk about her unsuccessful efforts to get a Hate Crimes ordinance passed in the City of Greenwood (Index Journal article).
• Road rage racial incident "not a hate crime" (Index Journal)
• Gun drawn on Black business owner (Fac  ebook)
• Why hasn’t South Carolina enacted a hate crimes law 10 years after Mother Emanuel? (WIS10)
• Local Hate Crime Ordinances (Municipal Association of South Carolina)
• Remembering Mother Emanuel, 10 years after racist attack on famed Charleston church (NPR)
• SC candidate for governor will not "stand down" after profanity-laced arrest video is released (WYFF)
• Deleted texts helped convince jurors man killed trans woman because of gender ID, foreperson says (NBC News)
• Facebook posts & comments about the Greenwood Christmas Parade theme (Facebook 1, Facebook 2, Facebook 3)

MAGA War on Educated Women (00:35:28)

• Douglas Wilson: The Christian nationalist pastor with ties to Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth (CNN)
• South Carolina lawmaker in jail on child sex abuse material charges resigns from office (SC ETV)

Trump’s DC Takeover (00:47:31)

• Trump deploys National Guard to Washington DC and pledges crime crackdown (BBC)
• Statement from Mayor Bowser on Meeting with President Trump (mayor.dc.gov)
• Trump administration staffer known as ‘Big Balls’ assaulted in DC (Politico)
• Former Superman actor Dean Cain reveals he’s becoming an Ice agent to support Trump’s mass deportation agenda (The Guardian)
• D.C. Statehood Now. (dcstatehoodnow.org)

Final remarks (01:00:11)Closing (01:02:339)

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Bill and Jumelle speak with Rev Heather Foy of the Ancient Celtic Church and talk about evangelical deconstruction, religious trauma and a variety of current topics!

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Opening Banter (0:00:00)Introduction (00:00:50)

• 'I'm not going to be a Gabby Giffords': U.S. Rep. Ralph Norman draws gun at constituent meeting [ABC30 Action news, 2018]
• ONN - WH Trans Alarm goes off [The Onion, TikTok]

Your South Carolina Lawmakers at Work (00:08:31)

• State Senator Matt Leber Publicly Accused of Adultery By His Wife - "Divorces Are Coming!" [The Carolina Courier]

Candidate Corner (00:17:47)

• Full videos of the candidates who attended the forum will soon be loaded on the Greenwood County Democratic Party YouTube channel.
• Kye Freeman
• Brandon Brown
• Catherine Fleming Bruce
• Dr. Annie Andrews
• Christopher Giracello
• Pastor Thomas Dixon’s videos of the THE 50501 SENATE CANDIDATE FORUM [Facebook]

Interview with Rev Heather Foy (00:40:21)

• Heather Foy [Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, Substack] 
• The Ancient Celtic Church
• The Religion of Politics [The Quollective]
• Big Media podcast network

The State of the Economy (01:01:26)

• Mr Global: Tax cuts for corporations [Facebook] 
• Rep Jimmy Gomez from California questions about tax increase in the “Big Beautiful Bill” [@makeamericakindagain.1 on Instagram]
• Walmart rollups [@longway1217 on TikTok]
• Prices increasing testimonial shared by [@grantchatter on TikTok]
• Making money while buying eggs [@bruno_amato on TikTok]
• Trump fired Commissioner of the Bureau of Labor Statistics [The People’s Cabinet]
• The Fox News To White House Pipeline: TV Personalities Who Joined The Trump Administration [Deadline]

Closing (01:25:43)

• We have work to do after Trump [Rick Wilson of The Lincoln Project on Facebook]

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