(Disclaimer: Adult language and content.)

This week’s catch-up episode covers everything — because life doesn’t separate it for you.

While Frankie was in Moab celebrating Tammy’s 54th birthday, a 3.6 earthquake hit West Valley. Jess felt like her house was on a wave machine.

We talk Moab, Dead Horse Point, and the haunting legend behind its name.

Then the tone shifts.

On the drive down, Frankie got the call he knew was coming — his Aunt Pat passed away at 82. We share the hilarious stories (the “blue hands” emergency that was actually wet jeans… the restaurant send-backs… the almost-abduction misunderstanding) and the deeper moments about aging parents, phone buddies, and what it feels like to start losing the people who shaped you.

We also reflect on Jon Absey's funeral — ten years to the day Frankie lost his dad — and how grief seems to stack as you get older.

And then there’s the Savannah case.

The Ring footage delays. The conflicting reports. The blood/no blood confusion. The theories. The questions. The frustration with how long it takes to retrieve critical digital evidence. We talk about how hard it is to know what’s real anymore — and how unsettling it feels when a story just doesn’t add up.

This episode is funny.

It’s heavy.

It’s frustrating.

It’s human.

It’s life happening all at once.

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