Welcome to a bonus episode of DNA Surprises, a crossover with Everything’s Relative with Eve Sturges! In this episode, we chat about our own NPE stories, the importance of humor throughout our journeys, and why we started our podcasts.

I also share something I’ve never shared before - that I’ve been on the other side of a DNA surprise.

Thanks to Eve for collaborating with me on this episode and thank you for listening!
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